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BigPoppaBuyrate	Dec 22 2012, 01:57 PM Post #1
Poppin' Buyrates Since 1996 Posts: 4,124 Group: Super Members Member #57 Joined: March 18, 2005	From time to time, we get to see my most wanted characters and returns... now I'd like to see yours. Pick some characters you'd like to see on board... be it debuts, be it homages, be it returns, be it long-forgotten names you'd love to see show up. Not saying all/most/any of these would happen but I'm always curious... plus it helps me answer that dreaded question "What kind of character do you need?"



Murphy	Dec 22 2012, 02:42 PM Post #2
Third Member. Professional lurker since 2006 Posts: 359 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: January 16, 2005	Personally, I've been hearing about you wanting do The Hangman as an Undertaker like thing for so long I am wondering what is really stopping you from doing it. Is it because you're THAT married to the idea of it being a repackaged Ron Houston? Does it really HAVE to be a repackaged anyone? Why not find someone in PCW lore that hasn't been taken that you squeeze into that role? Or just make someone up with a PCW past? Speaking of PCW, I wish someone would pick up Sweet Sensation. In the right hands, they could probably be an entertaining thing. A WWF-era Rick Rude would be cool. I know Rex Summers was kind of envisioned as being in that mold, but he never went all the way with it that I saw (I admit to not really paying as much attention to him as I used to in the last few months). The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers during their "All American Boy" thing. Someone, ANYONE, doing The Honky Tonk Man's WWF heel turn with the audience support polls. I wanted to talk Wayne into doing something like that back in the day for Tommy Lionheart before I arrived at the conclusion he would just fuck it up. There are more, and I will add as I think of them, but that's what I have off the top of my head.
	------ Murphy Handled: "Incredible" Idol Austin of Dynasty Find me on Discord at murphraven#0536 or Google at shawnpmurphy You can ride Space Mountain all night long. If you're 18 years old, or over. - Ric Flair, 1985


guzzdude	Dec 22 2012, 05:07 PM Post #3
Martin Luther King, Jr Posts: 711 Group: Super Members Member #10 Joined: January 17, 2005	Some homages I'd love to see... Big Boss Man. Handcuffs, Night Stick, Aviator shades before they were cool. What's not to love? Give him a "Sheriff" nickname and you have an instant confusing feud with Sharif. Jim Cornette, Slick, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Heenan, etc. Why aren't there more manager homages out there? AW tried to recreate the megaphone with his annoying mouth piece, why can't you! Or we. Dino Bravo. I hated Bravo/Heenan as a kid and when they brought in Earthquake I threw toys at the TV. I know you've been looking for a Big Poppa Pump guy but Bravo was bad ass dammit! RETURNS.. MISTER Oliver Strickland. I have numerous ideas how to tie him into angles with Terry Shane III since he started a wrestling school with his father TSJr. It could be a wrestler or manager role. Ricky Royal. Find the right handler for this! Rex Summers (Do it, you know who you are!) Gary Bright. I want a Lex Luger clone running around and he always reminded me of this...even if his name was possibly clipped straight from Gary Albright. West Memphis Assassin IV - I think it would be at four now... you have a ton of MSW history to pull from, we need a good masked angle...you could always fill in the "who" later. MSW Families... Speaking of MSW, you've got tons of rich family histories to pull from in there. Willis, Wyatt, Rogers, etc. A foreign threat. All the old histories everyone comes up with has a russian, japanese, or some foreign invasion with a monster heel character.



ProfessorDoran	Dec 22 2012, 05:12 PM Post #4
The Learning Tree Posts: 1,032 Group: Super Members Member #5 Joined: January 16, 2005	Actually, the one thing I'd like to see would be the introduction of another territory. Not as in actually running one, but there's clearly an MSW influence due to the awesomeness of J.Arm. West Memphis Assassin, Ivan Kostovich, these were all MSW things. From PCW, we got the Lynches and Rex Summers. Layton and Vernon Riley were from Florida, whatever that was theoretically called. So who's next? If I could remember my password to the e-w wiki, I would streamline the Gulf Coast Wrestling stuff. We already have Hercules Hammonds out of there (thanks Terry!), there's bound to be some other stuff to mine.
	Cole Hamels Fact #1685: The Devil went down to Georgia because he knew if he went to Philadelphia, Cole would strike his ass out. http://mysite.verizon.net/heyjude421/chf/chf.html


guzzdude	Dec 22 2012, 05:51 PM Post #5
Martin Luther King, Jr Posts: 711 Group: Super Members Member #10 Joined: January 17, 2005	ProfessorDoran,Dec 22 2012 03:12 PM Actually, the one thing I'd like to see would be the introduction of another territory. Not as in actually running one, but there's clearly an MSW influence due to the awesomeness of J.Arm. West Memphis Assassin, Ivan Kostovich, these were all MSW things. From PCW, we got the Lynches and Rex Summers. Layton and Vernon Riley were from Florida, whatever that was theoretically called. So who's next? If I could remember my password to the e-w wiki, I would streamline the Gulf Coast Wrestling stuff. We already have Hercules Hammonds out of there (thanks Terry!), there's bound to be some other stuff to mine. http://www.e-warchive.com/wiki/index.php?t...Coast_Wrestling



guzzdude	Dec 22 2012, 05:58 PM Post #6
Martin Luther King, Jr Posts: 711 Group: Super Members Member #10 Joined: January 17, 2005	I wonder if "Iron Man" Jack Fields of GCW is related to "Mr. Electricy" Shannon Fields of SCW. Upon first look, I'd love to see these guys from GCW... The Sunshine Connection, Eddie Evans and Guy Hopkins. "Dynamite" Danny Benson (thrown into a Bulldogs homage! "Pitbull" Billy Arnold is the closest there based off of his name. "Bulldog" Billy Arnold is an easy switch ;). Sir Walter Campbell There's actually too many to list so I'll just stop there.



StevieScott	Dec 22 2012, 06:05 PM Post #7
...EVEN CHILDREN! Posts: 776 Group: Super Members Member #42 Joined: February 25, 2005	One of these days I'm going to pick up writing the MSW history again. I have some notes typed out for the next steps in the Robert Royale angle, just haven't pieced it all together.
	"Destruction of Hell" start playing as Mason drop the mic and exit the ring as fans throw stuffs at him but he punch out most of the fans even children.


ProfessorDoran	Dec 22 2012, 06:41 PM Post #8
The Learning Tree Posts: 1,032 Group: Super Members Member #5 Joined: January 16, 2005	guzzdude,Dec 22 2012 10:58 PM I wonder if "Iron Man" Jack Fields of GCW is related to "Mr. Electricy" Shannon Fields of SCW. Upon first look, I'd love to see these guys from GCW... The Sunshine Connection, Eddie Evans and Guy Hopkins. "Dynamite" Danny Benson (thrown into a Bulldogs homage!� "Pitbull" Billy Arnold is the closest there based off of his name.� "Bulldog" Billy Arnold is an easy switch ;). Sir Walter Campbell There's actually too many to list so I'll just stop there. Jack Fields MAY IN FACT be related to Shannon Fields, but it just kinda happened that way. The Sunshiners would be great. Benson was headed toward... a tag team in Campbell Corp, I do believe. Also, Stampeders = Bulldogs. Sir Walter Campbell also was a good idea. But there's 9 million other heels in the AWA. Matt Willis as the Christmas present also made me cackle.
	Cole Hamels Fact #1685: The Devil went down to Georgia because he knew if he went to Philadelphia, Cole would strike his ass out. http://mysite.verizon.net/heyjude421/chf/chf.html


Overly_Critical_Jue	Dec 22 2012, 06:56 PM Post #9
Amigo, I ain't anybody but Juan Vasquez! Posts: 5,632 Group: Super Members Member #15 Joined: January 17, 2005	We need more of the washed-up Preston brothers that aren't Eric.



ProfessorDoran	Dec 22 2012, 07:07 PM Post #10
The Learning Tree Posts: 1,032 Group: Super Members Member #5 Joined: January 16, 2005	I'll have you know that Kenny Preston decided to ditch his family name, dye his hair and return to the scene as Heath Dawson. However, Chris Preston lost 50 pounds from mono, got cleaned and now teaches yoga at an LA Fitness somewhere near Cincinnati. I forget the fourth one.
	Cole Hamels Fact #1685: The Devil went down to Georgia because he knew if he went to Philadelphia, Cole would strike his ass out. http://mysite.verizon.net/heyjude421/chf/chf.html


BigPoppaBuyrate	Dec 23 2012, 12:32 AM Post #11
Poppin' Buyrates Since 1996 Posts: 4,124 Group: Super Members Member #57 Joined: March 18, 2005	Here's my mega-reply to a bunch of stuff in here so far... Quote: Personally, I've been hearing about you wanting do The Hangman as an Undertaker like thing for so long I am wondering what is really stopping you from doing it. Is it because you're THAT married to the idea of it being a repackaged Ron Houston? Does it really HAVE to be a repackaged anyone? Why not find someone in PCW lore that hasn't been taken that you squeeze into that role? Or just make someone up with a PCW past? My bigger problem with it these days is finding someone dependable to try and run what amounts to a Western version of the Undertaker. I really like the idea of the character but I'm just not sure anyone's up to that gig. Quote: A WWF-era Rick Rude would be cool. I know Rex Summers was kind of envisioned as being in that mold, but he never went all the way with it that I saw (I admit to not really paying as much attention to him as I used to in the last few months). My whole goal in running him for that short period was the hope that someone would see the potential in him and scoop him up. Alas, apparently I failed in that because he drifts unhandled and silent. Once SuperClash is over, I might put another run in with him if no one else will but that's not as good as someone else doing it. Quote: Someone, ANYONE, doing The Honky Tonk Man's WWF heel turn with the audience support polls. Joe did a little of this when Alphonse Green first arrived. You must've missed it. Quote: Jim Cornette, Slick, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Heenan, etc. Why aren't there more manager homages out there? We've had plenty of managers over time. Quote: MISTER Oliver Strickland. I have numerous ideas how to tie him into angles with Terry Shane III since he started a wrestling school with his father TSJr. It could be a wrestler or manager role. I'd say you're welcome to him but considering what you've got me running at SuperClash... Quote: Ricky Royal. Find the right handler for this! Would love to. Just don't know who that is. Quote: Gary Bright. I want a Lex Luger clone running around and he always reminded me of this Bright was supposed to be more in the vein of Billy Graham or even Scott Steiner. I thought it was a great character but Los seemed to have trouble getting a handle on him. I'd love to see someone take another shot at it though if Los can be convinced to cough him up. Quote: MSW Families... Speaking of MSW, you've got tons of rich family histories to pull from in there. Willis, Wyatt, Rogers, etc. Stay tuned? Quote: Actually, the one thing I'd like to see would be the introduction of another territory. Not as in actually running one, but there's clearly an MSW influence due to the awesomeness of J.Arm. West Memphis Assassin, Ivan Kostovich, these were all MSW things. From PCW, we got the Lynches and Rex Summers. Layton and Vernon Riley were from Florida, whatever that was theoretically called. There was some chatter about this with someone earlier this week but I think it's faded. I'm open to suggestions if someone wants to pitch me on something good. I think a new territory being bought out at the Anniversary Show would make sense for the AWA's next phase of expansion. Keep it comin', folks.



ProfessorDoran	Dec 23 2012, 12:58 AM Post #12
The Learning Tree Posts: 1,032 Group: Super Members Member #5 Joined: January 16, 2005	If nothing else, after this match is complete I will be brainstorming a few years for Gulf Coast Wrestling. I just found my notes I'd hidden away, Frank Herbert style. October 1981 is going to be extremely profitable!
	Cole Hamels Fact #1685: The Devil went down to Georgia because he knew if he went to Philadelphia, Cole would strike his ass out. http://mysite.verizon.net/heyjude421/chf/chf.html


ProfessorDoran	Dec 23 2012, 11:21 AM Post #13
The Learning Tree Posts: 1,032 Group: Super Members Member #5 Joined: January 16, 2005	How do I link pages? Having a hard time navigating this thing. *ProfessorDoran moron
	Cole Hamels Fact #1685: The Devil went down to Georgia because he knew if he went to Philadelphia, Cole would strike his ass out. http://mysite.verizon.net/heyjude421/chf/chf.html


Walls	Dec 24 2012, 12:19 AM Post #14
The Luther Burger Posts: 1,355 Group: Super Members Member #60 Joined: March 29, 2005	Just curious, but have any blatant homages worked? It seems the best characters in the AWA are all fairly original. The very direct homages where they even have the same hometown and finishers... I just... meh? I think the problem is they will never be the actual real guy. It's why an Undertaker clone would never really work. No one's gonna do it as well as the real thing. I think the focus needs to be on substance and style and not duplication. Have the feel be old school wrestling: real grudge matches, angles being meaningful, wrestlers mattering in the ring and not just based on promos, presence mattering, etc. Hell, I don't even think it's a bad thing that there is modern wrestlers and high fliers. You put AWA or NWA directly from the day back on TV and it's really just gonna flop. Real audiences are used to the attitude era, used to big highspots, etc. I mean, we can really just write out audiences however we want but really? ANYONE could fit in the AWA somehow. As long as they're telling good stories, playing the "tv role" (language, blood, etc) then why not? Obviously no spot monkeys without psychology are gonna make it, but that's really where the WWE is. Spotmonkeys don't last there either. You could point to Sin Cara or Evan Bourne but they spend 75% of the match selling and do their routine into the finish. I think the Make Em characters need to take inspiration from the greats, not clone them.



BigPoppaBuyrate	Dec 24 2012, 12:32 AM Post #15
Poppin' Buyrates Since 1996 Posts: 4,124 Group: Super Members Member #57 Joined: March 18, 2005	Walls,Dec 23 2012 09:19 PM Just curious, but have any blatant homages worked? It seems the best characters in the AWA are all fairly original. The very direct homages where they even have the same hometown and finishers... I just... meh? I think the problem is they will never be the actual real guy. It's why an Undertaker clone would never really work. No one's gonna do it as well as the real thing. I think the focus needs to be on substance and style and not duplication. Have the feel be old school wrestling: real grudge matches, angles being meaningful, wrestlers mattering in the ring and not just based on promos, presence mattering, etc. Hell, I don't even think it's a bad thing that there is modern wrestlers and high fliers. You put AWA or NWA directly from the day back on TV and it's really just gonna flop. Real audiences are used to the attitude era, used to big highspots, etc. I mean, we can really just write out audiences however we want but really? ANYONE could fit in the AWA somehow. As long as they're telling good stories, playing the "tv role" (language, blood, etc) then why not? Obviously no spot monkeys without psychology are gonna make it, but that's really where the WWE is. Spotmonkeys don't last there either. You could point to Sin Cara or Evan Bourne but they spend 75% of the match selling and do their routine into the finish. I think the Make Em characters need to take inspiration from the greats, not clone them. I think there's a very distinct difference between the successful homages (Sharif, Nenshou, VU) and the ones that kinda crash and burn. Nobody's telling you to clone someone... simply to use them as inspiration. I'm not asking for Battle Ax and Smasher, the Demolishers... but if you had two guys with single names who wore facepaint and kicked the bejeezus out of people and told me they were a Demolition homage, I would smile and gladly write squashes for them. John and I had this discussion when he was struggling with Vernon Riley. I thought Riley was too much Dusty clone and not enough Dusty homage. There's a difference... it's a fine line but it's there.

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