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Most Over-hyped/-rated/-exposed Of All Time!
Topic Started: Oct 9 2009, 12:38 PM (6,452 Views)
MatFindlay
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Thanks for the insight into pro-wrestling. I'm in a weird spot where I still find "the business" fascinating, but I also figured out a long time ago that it's just not the kind of thing I should be doing... A mix of bad knees and an incredibly low tolerance for bullshit. I made an effort to get into pro-wrestling, but the closer I got, the more I could see under the shiny veneer that outsiders are led to believe.

It's the same with any industry or circle, I guess. The more you know, the less "magic" there is, and the less legitimate it seems... So you have to be really into what you're doing or get paid a ton of money to keep doing it and tolerate the rickety bullshit that goes on under the covers.

Anyway, yeah... I'm of the opinion that anyone can pretty much do anything they want if they set their mind to it. Yes, there's going to be hard work involved, but as they say, nothing worth doing is easy. Some people may require more work and time than others, and some people may never be considered the top of their field... But they can try. If you can trust the promos wrestlers cut, there's no shortage of people in wrestling who were told they couldn't do it but persevered and got to the top of the mountain... We can believe wrestling promos, right?
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phmachine
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Yeah, pretty much. There are some people that want to work for WWE and work Wrestlemania and have the title. There are some who get their kicks from working a Saturday once a month in front of a bunch of people. The problem is that the people who want to work for WWE but don't go down to the Performance Center to get started are often fleeced by carny assholes who want to just get through the next month and don't care who they step on.
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phmachine
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Though I will say that all the talk about Bobby Eaton being the nicest person in the history of the business is 100% true. CM Punk's details about current day WWE in that one interview he did were also 100% true.
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MatFindlay
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To atone for my part in taking the thread off topic, here's an effort to bring it back around:

Someone mentioned Nyx Dunne as overrated. Was she ever rated as a top player? I remember Steve introducing me to her handler and I got along with them and was accepting of their work, but the writing was of the Harlequin Romance style that some people were using back in the day, and I wasn't a big fan.

Speaking of which... Who was the "murky orbs" guy? Ethan De Sade? Not that I remember the character breaking out as a huge "star", but... He kind of wrote like that too... And man, was there ever a problem between us. Don't remember specifically why.

Also, has nobody mentioned Tonnage yet? 700lbs guy that could fly like a luchador. That guy stunk.

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phmachine
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I vaguely recall a dude who's finisher was supposed to be something like three clones of himself magically appearing and jumping off the corners together in some kind of poorly thought out silliness, but I can't remember the dude's name for the life of me. I think he was supposed to be some kind of ninja?
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phmachine,Apr 28 2015
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I vaguely recall a dude who's finisher was supposed to be something like three clones of himself magically appearing and jumping off the corners together in some kind of poorly thought out silliness, but I can't remember the dude's name for the life of me. I think he was supposed to be some kind of ninja?


Man, that sounds like something out of an efed.

Although, to be honest, I would have liked to have seen it...at least how they attempted to pull it off.
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phmachine,Apr 28 2015
05:37 PM
I vaguely recall a dude who's finisher was supposed to be something like three clones of himself magically appearing and jumping off the corners together in some kind of poorly thought out silliness, but I can't remember the dude's name for the life of me. I think he was supposed to be some kind of ninja?

Neige Thirteen or something like that. Basically stole a special move from a fighting game (Samurai Showdown). IIRC he claimed it was not only original but could actually be done on a pro wrestling show.
Moo.
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Neige Thirteen, the Ninja Snowman. Boy was he unhappy when Spikyjim, Despair, Travis LaGrange, and (it was either Kirk Maclean or Werewolf Gregorson) stole that finisher and used it on him in a tournament.
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Also, regarding the IIWF Wall of Text... Honestly, I don't think Takezo Musashi was the worst culprit. That said, I liked the guy and worked with him a lot, so maybe I'm biased.

The guy that would have me scrambling for the page down key was the Scottish guy. Duncan something? Started a tag team with a family member or something called the Black Watch. As it was, the promos were long as hell, and it was made even worse by the "Scottish accent" that was written into them. I'm not ashamed to admit I just skipped them. I found them unreadable.

That whole trend of characters having accents and those accents being written into the promos was awful. I'll admit, a lot of friends of mine were guilty of it... I guess I was from time to time as well... But it just made shit difficult to read.

Do people still do the accent thing? Or has it been thankfully put to rest?
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MatFindlay,Apr 29 2015
09:15 AM
The guy that would have me scrambling for the page down key was the Scottish guy. Duncan something?

Duncan Macbeth, I think.

As for accents, I can't say I ever really used them in promos. For me personally they wouldn't make a promo unreadable, but that's my theatre background coming in handy. One of the first plays I was in had a character who had his dialogue written out in a thick British accent so I got used to it.

Moo.
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Yes, that's the guy.

I guess it was a case of the promos taking a bit more of an effort to read, and when faced with a card of ridiculous size (as IIWF cards tended to be), I just didn't want to make that effort. His heyday was also after my main run in the fed, so that gave me even less motivation.

For a lot of the cowboy guys, I dealt with it, because the "accent" was less prominent. But I found Duncan Macbeth promos incomprehensible. Like he was making an effort to not spell a single word properly.

And he never reverse chokeslammed an antelope into a nearby snowbank... Another obvious shortcoming.
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phmachine
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I remember when I gave one of my characters a deliberately incomprehensible accent as a goof. The best part was that people just wrote it off as "oh jeez, another accent". I felt very Andy Kaufman-esque.
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I started Sultan Azam Sharif just to see what writing the Iron Sheik would look like, expecting this to be a short-term comedy experiment. I was kind of surprised when he got over as a serious character. I like writing crazy voices much more than I like reading them, and sometimes I forget that.
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The overly dramatic style you're referencing was what folks didn't like about Ethan de Sade. You weren't liked due to "guilt by association" as some of us were knuckleheads who pushed it to the nth degree to make our dislike known.

As I recall, more folks had issues with Nyx wrestling men and this somehow bled into folks not liking Jody, the handler. I never had issues, but she disappeared after her falling out with Andj.

Would probably need someone else to give some insight into her.
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Back then, there was a general dislike that I sort of expected because of the company I kept... Not to mention I was a spectacular asshole on RSPWF. This was a result of something else. I think I wrote a promo making fun of someone else and he assumed I was making fun of him or something.
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