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Make you decision...
A New Admin 6 (35.3%)
Redo Admins Entirely 7 (41.2%)
Leave Admins Alone 4 (23.5%)
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Make you decision...
Topic Started: Feb 13 2007, 12:02 AM (688 Views)
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If you don't I swear I will leave along with many others so make your choices now and give reasons. And if you delete/close this thread I will make sure someone check the admin cp of who did and have it re-open and/or make another thread. Think I'm kidding.

This is the question for all member of the site regardless of rank. Admin, mods, members voice your concerns. Really honestly tell what you think..

Should we reshape the admins and have someone take their job that they say other can do and that take time for them to reshape themselves into doing a job that they keep making excuses for? I mean I thought for a minute they were cool and they will get better but some of us has been waiting months now. And no changes other then a little here and there but seriously I'm up to a point where I'm about go to crazy. Im sorry but I'm never like this until now cause I think it just petty and that it not worth to argue about it.

But then again I'm wrong, how can a well known and number member rpg like this one base off after a Game/anime series that is successful and well active with members but their power above them known as the Admin(Gods) Don't listen to prayers when they the only ones who can change/do most of the needed? I mean *sighs* Maybe Im being too much of a ass right now but really, we need someone to either be put into their place or take some of their jobs off their hands and handle the bigger load at least.

So choose a replacement or someone who can help out? Or maybe nothing at all. Maybe you're the one who wants to wait till this place starts to get better when they finally able to make a move. I can see mods doing well even WO is "trying" but what about the admins? All I seen was IC post and they don't post anywhere other then that or something that has a interest to them. I was happy as hell AMZ made a little plot. But I mean is this only gonna happen if we bitch about it? Why can't they just do it and BAM they just announce it to us?

But really we need someone who can help out lot of these problems that we don't have to bitch about. If this is a problem then maybe the mods can vote out who can be the new admin(s).

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Pancake Mix
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*sits down and doesn't vote* At this point, it's out of our hands, Seph. No matter what we say, it doesn't change what happens anymore. Might as well flip a coin ot see if this site is doomed or not at this point.
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Yoyo
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not if we can help it, PM.
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PM make the vote now...who said it out our hands? Cause we cant do nothing? lol No seriously vote and do it now. I am not kidding this time..you may think we can't do anything but as a site as a whole who are the people we can either stand or STFU and watch it all die out. So make a stand and vote..
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Unlimited Tiefy
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Fuck this stupid Florida!

I WOULD support a complete Staff replace, but since it's doubtful that AbsenteeMZ will ever let go of power here, and the fact that the other Admins are rarely on, if ever, (Well, except for Chance) I doubt that things will ever improve unless we drag Hiro back to do some ass-forkin'.
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Yoyo
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We've already confirmed the current staff have been attached to power far too long to give it up now, even because we asked. We have Hiro on speed dial...
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Unlimited Tiefy
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Fuck this stupid Florida!

Get him. Now.
*shoots radioactive bitching into IM Sea*
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Anime Master ZERO
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Let's analyze each of the options.

We most certainly could promote one of the staff to admin, but then Serenade will come in and say that we don't need any more admins. On the other hand, he doesn't appear that often.

Option two is out of the question knowing what you guys have in mind.

Option three is something many of you don't want. You DO want changes in the administraiton.

So from this analysis alone, the first option would be the best choice since it upsets the least number of people.
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Yoyo
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first, my rather dramatic analogy post i've been working on just for this.

... AHEM...

I'm looking to finish this little war between the third estate and the first as quickly and soon as possible. The third estate, the members, are supposed to be the most important part of the site. That's how it was in France when the revolution was brewing. the first estate is the highest class possible, the Admins and the Mods, and they are the over-indulgent rich people, who rule over the third estate with an iron fist, making changes without asking the people they will mostly affect!

Do not tell me that these are two different things, people! The problem has been restated over and over again, and we have all seen just how negligent our rulers are! They have drifted too far away to ask us what to fix, and they don't realize just how deep they are in now. The power of the Admins has been overused, overdone, and now it's about to be Overruled.

Do not come in this topic and tell me "It's not our fault," Admins, because I can give you ten points countering every protest you can make! one a storm is let loose, it won't stop, and the same goes here!

THE PEOPLE DEMAND REVOLUTION, YOU FOOLS! Haven't you studied history? Haven't you read a Tale of Two Cities?! have you seen just what an angry mob can accomplish?! They overthrew governments and created complete anarchy!

It's not a problem with the site, or a problem with the members... its a problem with POWER! you claim to be in a democracy, where we have a system of checks and balances, and yet you admins go ahead and do as you please without taking in the considerations of the members, the people you are making the changes for! they are what is most important here, THEY are the ones who make the site, NOT YOU!

We've given you chances, Admins! we've made statements and made topics about how badly we want a change, and yet whenever we bring up the obvious course of REMOVING YOU FROM YOUR PEDESTALS, you say that that wouldn't be good! but, good for who?! It would be perfectly fine-- no, it would make the site better to switch you out for someone who isn't so tainted by their own power to deny what is REAL!

Governments have a system, where they change their leader after a while! It's called Democracy! Every four years, a new leader comes in! Why?! BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THE OLD ONES! THEIR IDEAS RUN OUT, THEY START GETTING POWER HUNGRY, JUST LIKE YOU ADMINS ARE!

Forget asking for changes, forget respecting the power you hold... Delete this topic is you want, but THIS IS THE FINAL STAGES! ONCE A BEAST IS FREED, IT DESTROYS WHATS IN ITS WAY, AND IT TAKES ON HELLOFAJOB TO REEL IT BACK AND MAKE THE PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT IT!

THIS IS THE BEAST, ADMINS! YOU'VE LEAD US TO HAVE NO CHOICE BUT THIS! I AM DEFARGE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VORTEX, ARMING THE REVOLUTIONARIES AS THEY COME!

and it will be hell or high water if you try and stop me, remember. How do you expect to do it, anyway? Delete this post? I saved it. Ban me? It will only spark the revolution further.

now then, admins... If you refuse to change, and refuse to step down, and then we have no where else to go... we do what France did in the 1700s...

we start fighting back. And trust me, this is not going to be brushed under the rug, i can assure you of that. I am going to stop your little power trips you've been on before it gets any worse, and we're going to become a true democracy, DESPITE WHAT YOU SAY CANT HAPPEN! I'm sick of the current system, where nothing happens! Fine, you did your time as admins, but TIMES UP! either START CHANGING, or GIVE UP YOUR SEAT!

REVOLUTIONARIES, TO ARMS.
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Exactly Serenade bearly on now cause of life and when he does he good but like we said he better off working at home and give up his seat then waisting his time here.

Option two is for you guys..to either get off your asses and do what you suppose to or...GTFO the chair..
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Unlimited Tiefy
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Fuck this stupid Florida!

*Wields mace* DOWN WITH THE TYRANTS!
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*shoots tiefy's mace out of his hands*

Revolution, yes.
Need to 'raise hell', no.

We can sit this out and talk. Now, I vote the next person to talk irrationally be shot.
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Anime Master ZERO
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Chimeric
Feb 12 2007, 11:19 PM
We can sit this out and talk.

I've made a suggestion to the other staff to allow representatives from the regular members into the private staff discussions in the staff forum to voice the rest of you guys in our meetings.
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That wont be enough, cause they will be ignore just like the mods. It sounds like a excuse to work around the mob to try and not only keep your seat but to keep us quiet for awhile. That not gonna to be enough seriously you need someone with power to up a a duty of working not talking. Someone with a limited amount of power(mods) barely have a say in some things now. We need new admins or someone to put into power even announcing another mod WILL NOT BE ENOUGH as we have seen it been a great blessing to have another one who working their ass off while their higher ups are still doing nothing. They can only do so much and soon it will be stressing...
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Yoyo
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Chimeric
Feb 13 2007, 12:19 AM
*shoots tiefy's mace out of his hands*

Revolution, yes.
Need to 'raise hell', no.

We can sit this out and talk. Now, I vote the next person to talk irrationally be shot.

we've attempted talking. When we asked AMZ to change even after he lost the vote to remain admin, he made promises to the members, promises which he failed to uphold. There isn't much of a way around this, Chimeric, we've tried other ways around it. But if we don't stop it soon... we break. the lowest form of a crowd is a violent one, and that is what we've been reduced to.
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HiroTsukasa
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Grand Lord Tiefling
Feb 13 2007, 12:11 AM
Get him. Now.
*shoots radioactive bitching into IM Sea*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzTNEQwidY

*rises from the Sea of Japan* GAAAAAAOOOO!
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How about this. We go through a 2 month period, the staff forum is unlocked and members can read, but can't post: specific representatives are allowed to post, probably added to a pre-existing unused staff member group and having the powers removed.

At the same time, AMZ steps down to a Mod position; a permanant demotion, and AMZ gets to select one of the mods to take his position.

EDIT: Hiro! Yay!
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xD HiroZILLA please oh Please make a decision on this! I'm mean seriously people leave this site cause the fact that admins are claiming that they are "trying or give time" to do something but its annoying cause it happens right after the bitching then it dies out moments later. We NEED a permanent solution to this not one that will work for a few day - weeks then change back. I suggest either a admin step in or a replacement for those who do nothing.

And yes Chimeric that sounds a little good. I mean AMZ is better off a mod cause he does plots and stuff, but really we need a good strong active admin who willing to do it all and say no to every little petty thing in the Suggestion forum that doesn't need to be.
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Pancake Mix
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Hum. Well Hiro, Basically you can see what's bceome of the site by looking at the news forum, here, and the last two pages of the General Chat "Anime vs. NA Entertainment" topic. Grim stuff.

I've given up on this site, personally. This matter is 100% out of our hands. Alogn that vein, this matter is mostly- FUCK IT! WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING?! IT'S MIDNIGHT WHERE I AM! Jesus, I'm putting more time and effort into whining then the admins (sans Hiro of course) have in fixing the problems! They've completely screwed the site up.

And I hate them all. LAzy, complete Assho-Okay, taht's it. I've popped a blood vessal here. *head off to the forum at the top of the index*
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Yoyo
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Don't even think about leaving, PM. Not now. Not right as we're about to turn things around.
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