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Don Imus Discussion
Topic Started: Apr 16 2007, 08:01 AM (30 Views)
Yoyo
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The Voice of Reason in an Unreasonable world

now, i didn't listen to his radio show or anything, but from what i gathered Don Imus of Imus in the morning wasn't exactly a kind fellow. his shtick was to insult people, for the most part, and he made a good twenty years doing that. recently if you've been watching the news, Imus was fired from the radio station after he made a few racial and sexist comments against the Rutgers basketball team. Some say he had it coming for years now, and it's true he might have been pretty edgy with his content up until now. But, I have a few problems with the entire tale i need to get off my chest.

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On April 4, 2007, Imus referred on-air to the Rutgers University women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos"[8][9][10] during a racially-charged discussion about the NCAA Women's Basketball Championship.[11] Imus was not the first radio personality to utter such words on the air—for example, Star of Clear Channel's radio show Star & Buc Wild referred to a caller as a "nappy-headed nigger whore" in 2001—[12] but Imus's 2007 conduct sparked a national outrage. At 6:00 p.m. that evening, Media Matters for America became the first news outlet to report the remarks, transcribing:
“  IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --

McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.

IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.

McGUIRK: A Spike Lee thing.

IMUS: Yeah.

McGUIRK: The Jigaboos vs. the Wannabes -- that movie that he had.


as expected, this comment didn't sit well with the african american community, and they started to pretty much rally against the guy. Sure, he was a bastard, from what i've seen, but the guy's a radio show host. freedom of speech and all, I figured. in any case... Al Sharpton got involved in the case, and- and this wasn't even asking, it was demanding- Imus be fired for his comments.

Now, if you'll look back a bit further, Sharpton stuck his nose in another case recently about the african american man who got shot up by white police officers in brooklyn. frankly, the guy can do whatever he damn well pleases if you ask me, but I just wish he would come out and say that HES the one that's the racist in the case he's discussing. Since a few years back when he took a case- the Tawney Brawley Contreversy- where... well, you can read the Wikipedia clipping.

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Tawana Brawley controversy

    See also: Tawana Brawley Case

In the Tawana Brawley case, a 15-year-old black girl was found smeared with feces, lying in a garbage bag, her clothing torn and burned and with various slurs and epithets written on her body in charcoal. Brawley claimed that she had been assaulted and raped by six white men, some of them police officers, in the town of Wappingers Falls, New York.

Attorneys Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason joined Sharpton in support of Brawley. A grand jury was convened; after seven months of examining police and medical records, the jury determined that Brawley lied about being assaulted by the police. Sharpton, Maddox and Mason accused the Dutchess County prosecutor, Steven Pagones, of being one of the perpetrators of the alleged abduction and rape. The three were successfully sued for slander and ordered to pay $345,000 in damages, the jury finding Sharpton liable for making seven defamatory statements about Pagones, Maddox for two and Mason for one.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#T...ley_controversy

Hmph. I found this other clipping from the same Wiki section almost amusing... almost.

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Accusations of racism and Homophobia

Many conservative and liberal commentators have accused Reverend Sharpton of being racist and homophobic. Sharpton was quoted as saying to an audience at Kean College in 1994 that, “White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” Sharpton defended his comments by noting that the term “homo” was not homophobic but added that he no longer uses the term.  Sharpton has since called for an end to perceived homophobia in the African-American community.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#A..._and_Homophobia

notice it says he didn't do anything about the racist portion of his argument. hmm.

In any case, he's been around a lot recently, and I'm sick of seeing him popping up whenever there's a black person in need somewhere. He likes to pick fights as well, it seems, as he was the one who called Don Imus for an interview on his own (sharptons) radio program, again stating that he should be fired for, and i quote...

ok, i can't quote it exactly, but Sharpton said that it was racist and sexist of Imus. and it may have been, but i'm sure Sharpton was really one to talk about being racist. it's a bit ironic, i think. or hypocrytical. whichever sounds better. ah, by the way; any supporters of Sharpton, if you can prove that he's not a racist, try to.

aside from Sharpton, however, the other side of the story that positively infuriated me was the Rutger's response to Imus's appology. This one i CAN quote.

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NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) -- Rutgers women's basketball coach C. Vivian Stringer said Friday the team had accepted radio host Don Imus' apology. She said he deserves a chance to move on but hopes the furor his racist and sexist insult caused will be a catalyst for change.

"We, the Rutgers University Scarlet Knight basketball team, accept - accept - Mr. Imus' apology, and we are in the process of forgiving," Stringer read from a team statement a day after the women met personally with Imus and his wife.

"We still find his statements to be unacceptable, and this is an experience that we will never forget," she said.

The team had just played for the NCAA national championship last week and lost when Imus, on his nationally syndicated radio show, called the players "nappy-headed hos." The statement outraged listeners and set off a national debate about taste and tolerance. It also led to his firing by CBS on Thursday.

"These comments are indicative of greater ills in our culture," Stringer said. "It is not just Mr. Imus, and we hope that this will be and serve as a catalyst for change. Let us continue to work hard together to make this world a better place."

Imus was in the middle of a two-day radio fundraiser for children's charities when he was dropped by CBS. On Friday, his wife took over the show and also talked about the meeting with the Rutgers players.

"They gave us the opportunity to listen to what they had to say and why they're hurting and how awful this is," author Deirdre Imus said.

"He feels awful," she said of her husband. "He asked them, 'I want to know the pain I caused, and I want to know how to fix this and change this.'"

Deirdre Imus also said that the Rutgers players have been receiving hate e-mail, and she demanded that it stop. She told listeners "if you must send e-mail, send it to my husband," not the team.

"I have to say that these women are unbelievably courageous and beautiful women," she said.

Stringer declined to discuss the hate mail Friday. Rutgers team spokeswoman Stacey Brann said the team had received "two or three e-mails" but had also received "over 600 wonderful e-mails."

The team's goal was never to get Imus fired, Stringer said. "It's sad for anyone to lose their job," she said.


Source: TCPalm News

The women on the Rutgers team seem to think that thy were personally attacked by Imus, and while they were, what he did was nothing more than a punch on the shoulder. they make the entire thing seem as if he had taken them by the throat and started punching them in the stomach. Its nice and all that they have to struggle for attention like this, but let's be fucking serious here; three words from one guy on a radio show is not going to destroy your future. It might hurt for a while, but for god sake, people, GET THE HELL OVER YOURSELVES!

Ah, by the way. OF COURSE ITS SAD FOR SOMEONE TO LOSE THEIR JOB, HES BEEN AT IT FOR TWENTY BLOODY YEARS!

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The basketball team held a news conference where coach C. Vivian Stringer stated that the team would meet with Imus to discuss his comments. Several of the players expressed their outrage over the remarks. Team captain Essence Carson said Imus' remarks had "stolen a moment of pure grace" from the team.


*calms down some* I know the Rutgers team is in the NCAA chamionship, or at least, was at the time, and they were doing pretty well for themselves. but once again, if you didn't want your 'moment of grace' lost, why the FUCK would you make such a big deal out of the story when you've got bigger things to do with your time, like celebrating that grace and all?!

what's more, Imus apologized on the air live, not once, but two times to try and get the Rutgers team to forgive him. While he may have deserved to be fired, if they truly forgave him like they said they were going to do, why was he still fired? most people wouldn't want any punishment given if they already forgave the person in question.

one more thing: the news has been talkiing about the case recently and acting as if the fact that Imus was fired for his remarks was actually going to change anything in the way we screen radio shows or anything, or something like that. My view on that side of the argument is that THIS THING WONT DO SHIT. It was a one-sided battle with one man against a few thousand, hundred thousand protesters who probably didn't know the full story. all of a sudden people aren't just going to go, "oh, since this happened here we should stop doing this on our station," or anything like that. this thing is like throwing a pebble into a lake, it ripples out a bit, but the lake still swallows it up. Nothing is going to change from this, except one man loses his job and the protesters get their fill of blood for the day, then things move on. nothing else is going to happen as a repercussion of this.

perhaps this is just a tirade, and I know it won't change anything, but its been on my mind and i needed to get it off my chest. the entire case seems wrong to me, from the Rutger's team to Sharpton's involvement, to pretty much all of it. Discuss, I suppose.
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