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Heaven or Hell: THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN
Topic Started: Apr 20 2007, 08:16 PM (354 Views)
Yoyo
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The Voice of Reason in an Unreasonable world

... seriously. the Catholic church just decided that limbo (purgatory, for some) no longer exists.

..... well, that's about all I have to say on the subject. just letting you know your unbaptized babies and pagans are either in one or the other, now. to the catholics, anyway, I personally don't think any of them are right.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070420/ts_nm/pope_limbo_dc
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Pancake Mix
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BLARGAHGRHGARR

Bwahahaha....typical church. "Follow us, or burn for eternity".
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Absolute Zero
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Pah...this is why I'm shinto. Christians are always stuck up, thinking their way is right all the time. Then they change their own traditions after such a long time of believing it. What's next? Jesus being nailed to a muffin?
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Raymond Merlo
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Well, you have to realize, in the long run, it's really hard to NOT get into Heaven. I think the only real way to gurantee it is to:

A: Worship Satan and BEG him to take you

B: Live your life in COMPLETE disregard to the 10 commandmants, Everything Jesus said, Etc. That means you are going to have to do a LOT to do it.

Also, I believe Purgatory is still in effect. Basically, that's.....err.......It's like the training area for heaven.

@ PM: Actually, last I checked, all you really have to do is live a good life, and BAM! You are have 99.99% chance at heaven. That's right, if we Catholics are right, we're bringing you guys with us to heaven.

@ AZ: Traditions and beliefs are not the same
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Pancake Mix
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BLARGAHGRHGARR

As usual, I will quote my favorite phrase from Ghandi:

"I like your Christ. I Do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ"

But really, it's all the arrogance and hypocrisy that makes me, alright, I'll admit, hate the church. The people? Just fine. What they believe? Scram.
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Azrael.exe
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Im Protestant so if any catholic finds this offensive I apologize

I honestly think purgatory was shit from the get go. It is never mentioned in the bible, the canon AND non canon books. It was a ploy to gain money from the people before the renasaince. Priests used it to gain money by saying they could limit purgatory time if people gave them money. So personally Im happy they got rid of it

Also Alistor is right, sooo many people get confused on this. A true christian believes that all Good people are going to heaven, regardless of religion, thats right even atheists.

The only way to go to hell is to basically be a direct avatar for satan
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My mom told me that I was going to hell when I told her I converted to Shinto.

My prayers go to Inari! :lol:
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J.G.
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abba-zabba, you my only friend

*sighs*

*points at link in sig*

Yeah. I think that about sums it up.

It seems that we have found the answer to every current argument against religion.

And I really don't give a shit about this, anyway. I'll keep on beliving what I want to believe; for instance, I don't think gay people go to hell, regardless of what SOME preists may think... and if tommorow, the Pope said that videogames were a sin, I would just pick up myh Wiimote and turn on WiiPlay.
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Raymond Merlo
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AZ, i've said it before, I'll say it again, your mom is no Christian. A REAL christian would accept your choice.

@ PM: It's true. Many Christians are not Christ like. bu then again, they are striving to be like Christ. They are just failing more than some of us Christians. Also, look past the people. take a look at the bread and butter, simple parts of Christianity. To judge a religion on it's people is not the best thing to do.

@ JG: I also doubt certain parts of the church's condemnation.
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J.G.
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abba-zabba, you my only friend

On an almost completely unrelated note, we should have a subforum for these types of discussions.

EDIT: What I REALLY like about this is that there is noone going "lol ur faith sux" without actually backing up their reasons. That annoys the HELL out of me.

Actual conversation with a kid from out school.

Me: So why are you an athiest?

Him: Because Christianity sucks!

Me: Why does it suck?

Him: Because is just DOES!

No lie.
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Raymond Merlo
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Agreed. At least athiest like PM have legitamate reasons.
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Yoyo
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Absolute Zero
Apr 20 2007, 08:44 PM
My mom told me that I was going to hell when I told her I converted to Shinto.

My prayers go to Inari! :lol:

oh yeah? Well MY deity doesn't demand prayers from the few supporters it has; it only demands that they play and defeat Final Fantasy VII at least once as a rite of passage ceremony. o.o I have yet to fully accomplish this task, but I'm working on it.
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J.G.
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abba-zabba, you my only friend

O.~
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Azrael.exe
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Ah I see we have a Schnablist in our presence?
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Yoyo
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Azrael.exe
Apr 20 2007, 09:22 PM
Ah I see we have a Schnablist in our presence?

... a what?
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Azrael.exe
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A Schnablist is one who hails from the religion of Schnablism, created by Mr. Cody Schnable. Their core beliefs surround around videogames, being cool people, and not dying more then 10 times in life.

(Cody is a friend from school, he actually has made pamphlets for this religion and Ill see If I can get my hands on one to scan it)
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Pancake Mix
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BLARGAHGRHGARR

Actually, I'm not Atheist anymore.
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Raymond Merlo
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Oh? What are ya now?
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BLARGAHGRHGARR

Pastafarian.
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Corner text reads: "Octopus deceiving predator with its ink."

*poitsnt to self* Pagan =P
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