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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 12 2012, 12:54 AM (208 Views) | |
| Minister Wighty | Mar 12 2012, 12:54 AM Post #1 |
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I'm so tired of typing, so I'm going to keep this short until we get to the real meat of the issue. I thought Dai's stuff had better content than Joe's. Nightmare no-showed. Sad. Despite the appearance of Uncle Dr. Wily I thought Stanton was a little boring this week, whereas Lana was at least interesting. I didn't feel Spectationill lived up to their potential, even in their rebuttal promo which DID have a few good points. It was all a bit boring. Sex and Violence wasn't much better, but I thought they edged them out. My sentiments were echoed by more than one party. I thought Club did well in recovering from the painful loss he suffered last week, but because his efforts were focused there I'm not sure if he beat Bloodbath. At the same time I think it's time Bloodbath moved up to the NGIW title scene, and the more he hovers around the RCR the less likely he is to finally make that leap. So... this is it. I can elaborate at a later date if people insist, but that's all you get for now, because as you might've noticed there is no ending to the NGIW Championship match. There's an ending WRITTEN... but I decided not to post it. I'm keeping it in my pocket for now. It's actually torn me up all day. You can ask my family. I might not ordinarily be bothered, but... well, it's been a fucked up couple of weeks. So here's the deal, and I'd like to type more on the subject, but again I'm so tired of typing I want to keep it succinct. I thought both parties had two crap RPs. I thought Chester had one excellent RP and a bunch of ones that were of expected quality. I thought the remainder of Roxie's RPs were of above-average quality. RP-wise there's no clear victor there. Similarly, in terms of storylines, neither Roxie nor Chester really stand to gain or lose more than the other by winning this match. The things they stand to gain/lose are DIFFERENT, sure, but not equal. So it sort of falls to a tiebreaker that I have tried not to use in about a year since a kerfluffle some of you might recall; judging the match based on OOC stuff. That's harder than you might think. Sure, Lita is my best friend and there's a lot of loyatly there, but at the same time I've seen Joe victimised and singled out unfairly a lot. He's taken a lot of losses on the chin, and yet he still keeps coming, keeps trying, and only rarely does he really get down about it. Even if you put aside the fact that judging a match based on how I feel about the handlers is a load of fucking bollocks, it's not an easy call to make. Sort of like that heroic moral dilemma you see in comic books and movies so often. Who do you save? Your girlfriend, or the bus full of orphans? Ordinarily I choose "Secret Option C", which would entail me being a badass enough hero to save them all in one fell swoop. It's usually what the guys in comic books pick, too. I don't like being told I only have two options in a matter and almost always try to find a way around it to make some kind of comprimise, but there isn't one here. You have no idea how much it pisses me off to say that. Of course, if it weren't a title match there WOULD be an opportunity. Draws, dusty finishes, and the like seem like a great idea to put both characters over... except that in the event of a draw the Champion retains. In this situation that feels to me less like I'm saying "everyone's a winner", and more like I'm saying "Lita is the winner but I'm too much of a chicken shit to commit to it." Similarly, the out-of-character notion that when things come down to even steven it's better to err on the side of the champion just seems like too tempting and too easy an addage to fall back on in order to keep my ass out of the fire. Worse yet, for those of you who are aware of the goings-on in FIW I was very recently burned by falling back on that same adage. It being only two weeks ago, the psychological scarring is still a bit fresh in my head. I wrote an ending for this match for Roxie. I wrote an ending for this match for Chester. I thought about not including an ending and telling YOU folks to decide who wins and try to explain to the loser why they don't deserve the title, but that seemed a bit harsh. I considered just shutting down the fed so I didn't have to make a decision. I flip-flopped back and forth on this match up until the second it was posted and as there's still no decision and no Winged Skull logo at the end of the show it's clear that things are still up in the air. I don't know what to do. That leads me to another problem that, although I've listed it secondarily, is still a primary concern. It's only that you needed to understand precisely my major dillemma for the week in order to fully appreciate where I find myself. Ordinarily I don't like to involve you guys in my personal life too much as I feel it's really not my place to thrust my woes upon people who didn't ask for it, but the death of my grandfather had a chance to affect business so I figured I'd let everyone know so that maybe we could lighten the load a bit and I could get through these troubled times with less weight on my back. This was fresh from dealing with Sarah Twilight's unauthorized incineration and demasking of a luchador over in FIW and I was ready for things to begin healing and business to return to normal, but unfortunately an oversight on my part and some less-than-savory tactics on Tammy's part caused a stir that ended with both real and potential members of both feds being lost from the roster. Fortunately the damage wasn't quite as severe as it could've been, but it was still a stressor. It was all cleared up by the end of the week, just in time for my actual relatives to cause a fresh amount of hell for my wife. Then, Friday night, just as it seemed these relatives were gone, my grandfather was finally laid to rest and everything was cool, an horrible tornado struck my wife's hometown where her father still lives. We didn't get in contact with him for 13 hours and she was halfway to her ancestral home when we finally discovered he was not dead. Again, excuse me for forcing you to get into my petty psychologies, but between FIW and my grandfather's death I really wasn't equipped to support my wife in such a troubled time and I flew into something of a controlled panic. It was about this time I ran out of the herbal supplement I use to keep my chemical imbalance in check and stave off crippling depression. We didn't get paid until Thursday. I didn't get my pills until this very morning. In the meantime my ceiling collapsed upon the head of my father who would be undergoing critical surgery on literally the next day, and between trying to decide this match, trying to figure out how to write three of the most complicated gimmick matches I've come across in some time, and making a lot of what I'm sure will be unpopular decisions in the lower card I also had to try and support my wife through passing one of the worst kidney stones she's had in recent memory. It's been a rough fucking trio of weeks. So I sit here wondering if I really need to continue coping with the stress of judging matches, even if it's only every week and a half. I've already shrugged this responsibility onto others in FIW in an attempt to maintain their committee-style judgement calls, but I wonder if doing the same thing here would work. Would it still be MY fed? MY NGIW if that happened? What if I disagreed with a call? Should I still have the authority to veto it? Would that be fair? It's a lot for me to think about right now. I don't have it in me to do so... so I invite you all to help me through this. Through deciding what to do with the PPV, through deciding what to do with NGIW. No card for Vice. If/when the fed picks back up we'll pick up with the next scheduled BLACK and run this cycle a week short. Thots? |
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| Daisuke | Mar 12 2012, 02:34 AM Post #2 |
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You gotta do what you gotta do. Generally, I tend to base my RP decisions on my opinions of the memorable moments, which might be anything from the climax of a post, to a throwaway exchange that rings particularly true or false. I guess what I'm trying to say is: read the RPs one last time, close your eyes, take a deep breath, stop thinking for a moment, then go with your first gut response and damn the consequences. |
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| Jo-Jo | Mar 12 2012, 05:50 AM Post #3 |
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A horrible tornado. lol. Sorry. :P I guess I can't really say much on the match outcome without sounding bias one way or the other. I'm either hopeful or I'm generous. To be honest, deep down I'd rather be hopeful. I'm not hating on Lita, I'm just...I don't know, just trying not to be like The Boy and take his bit of being a professional dick. lol So, apologies, but I have to move on with the rest of my feedback. I'm a little surprised by the outcomes. Well, I knew it would be Sakura over Lilith. Damn...Claire really should've been the one in there. *sigh* lol. The other two I thought would be reversed. But even after writing the Spectationill stuff it did seem kinda bland. I'm a little surprised by the Midway result and, well, more surprised by you saying Lana was at least interesting. Never thought I'd hear that from you in regards to Lana. :P Anyway, that's about it. I'm sorta tired too so I'm going to sleep. Party on, Joe. ~eat snacky smores~ |
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| Minister Wighty | Mar 12 2012, 10:47 AM Post #4 |
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The word "an" is supposed to precede any word that begins with "h" followed by a vowel sound. Look it up. |
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| Mjölnir | Mar 12 2012, 12:23 PM Post #5 |
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This, in regards to the RP situation. And to a lesser extent, the judging and NGIW situations. If you feel you can't cope with the stress, consider a judging system & have it any way you want it, it's your e-fed. If you feel you should have the authority to veto a call the others make, well, do so, you're the boss. I doubt many are wary of your opinion, if they were, chances are they wouldn't be here. You could give the judging system a trial run, and toss it out if you don't feel it's working. With NGIW as a whole, doing something like Dai said is my suggestion for it. Try to step away from the situation, sit back and think about it. Does the headaches out weigh the enjoyment, the negatives out weight the positives for you? Is it not worth it? If so, close NGIW. If not, keep NGIW open. I'd like the latter for my own selfish reasons but not at the expense of your mental health. It's only a game. Guess what I'm trying to say is it's true that roleplay games, such as this one, take on a life of their own but it's still yours. We're merely low rent actors using your theater to play out our little diddies. You don't need to keep the theater open for us if it means that you're going to suffer for it. |
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| Jo-Jo | Mar 12 2012, 01:06 PM Post #6 |
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I don't know, it still just sounds weird. Party on, Joe. ~eat snacky smores~ |
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| Wigumoto | Mar 12 2012, 01:36 PM Post #7 |
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If there was a like button here I would like 'Nir's post. There's a reason I never stepped up to take the FIW reigns and that's 'cos there's no way I could take the pressure, and considering the few weeks you've had no one's going to bitch if you wanna put the place on hold for a bit. You at least need some downtime; a break, even for one show, is a good idea. As for the result, again I agree with 'Nir; try the judging system, no one's going to have a problem with you vetoing stuff, this is your show after all. FIW has had many owners but this place has always been your baby. Your terrifying, twisted, skull faced baby. |
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| Minister Wighty | Mar 12 2012, 01:57 PM Post #8 |
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Well, "do what you're gonna do, dude" has generally been the sentiment's I've recieved across the board and... so I shall. I reviewed the RPs and found nothing new, so I'm just going with what my gut says is the right decision. I'm sorry if anyone is upset by this, but I can't afford to play favorites or deal with kid gloves in these kinds of situations just 'cuz I don't want to bruise feelings. I'm not taking a week off, as a night's rest and my wife being healthy this morning were enough to lift my spirits. Your kindly neutral words have helped a lot, too. I did a lot of thinking, and adding it together with the advice I was given I've come up with a general solution for my woes. You people need to stop taking this shit so fucking seriously. It's just a game. It's one of my favorite games, but it's just a game. If you lose a title, well, that sucks. But it's not like you're forever barred from competing for it again. If your character gets damaged by a careless fellow RPer or my own ineptitude, well, maybe you shouldn't make your character so fragile, or maybe you should warn me beforeheand. It's the nature of the game. We all fulfill roles, whether you call it face and heel, good guy and bad guy, or just winner and loser. The loser doesn't get to always look good, and what's worse is the loser isn't always some scrummy jobber who never roleplays. That's all I have to say, I guess. Expect the card and SLA sometime tonight. For now... I need some time to myself. |
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| Lita Maivia | Mar 12 2012, 03:31 PM Post #9 |
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Well, I'm happy with the outcome of one match. The other I expected so while I'm glad he won, it wasn't really a surprise. Sorry, I just don't have feedback to give you guys. I wish I did. EDIT: Title sigs. ![]()
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I do wanna say my congrats to Jo. Take pride in knowing that you beat the greatest NGIW Champion of all time. What? He did. hide Kita-who? |
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| Jo-Jo | Mar 12 2012, 04:45 PM Post #10 |
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To be honest, and nothing agfainst the final decision, while I enjoy the win (and will try to run as far as I can with it) I would've accepted a loss. Mainly because it's almost like a controversial moment...and I was involved. In a small way, but still it's always fun to be involved in controversy. Oh wait, I'm thinking of the mob scene. No, they're both fun. Spongebob references are always awesome. I do feel the sense of dread coming on with Wiggs/Dai coming at me now. Though when you guys do, just remember the Canadian war cry; "Not in me testies". It was fun RPing against Lita...and with Lita. As I said to you before; good game. :) Roxie is NGIW champ. There it is, still doesn't make sense but there it is. lol Party on, Joe. ~eat snacky smores~ |
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| Mjölnir | Mar 12 2012, 05:24 PM Post #11 |
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Nevermind, you edited it since I read it. You jerk. |
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| Jo-Jo | Mar 12 2012, 05:30 PM Post #12 |
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I got Dai's name in there. I just don't know the order in which they're coming. Or if they're coming at the same time. And how dare you call me sexist, sir. I argued in defense of pornography in my feminist theory class. Got a lot of head shakes and dirty looks. And as if that wasn't bad enough I even told them what they how they were being taught to perceive feminism was an idiot's view. Case in point; Roxie. :P Party on, Joe. ~eat snacky smores~ |
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| Minister Wighty | Mar 13 2012, 12:59 PM Post #13 |
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!!!THE CARD IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION!!! The current card is false because I am stupid. I'll bump it when it's fixed. In the meantime, why don't we talk about the actual show feedback? Curious to see everyone's thoughts. |
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| Lita Maivia | Mar 13 2012, 01:09 PM Post #14 |
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Well, I was happy to see Club retain the Red Crown of Rage. Sad for Adam because I know he tried real hard there, but I just love Club. As evident by Chester's treatment of him, yeah? I knew Wiggum was going to win because Will didn't RP. That was kind of sad because I love Finn so much. I need to interact with him more somehow. Guess that means April because I can't see any of my other characters interacting with him pleasantly. Maybe Lucas but I dunno. I just don't see it. I was obviously very disappointed by the result of the main-event. Not because I lost to Jo and not because Chester lost to Roxie, but because I lost the belt and I loved being NGIW Champion, you guys don't even know. Chester's insane pride over being NGIW Champion was based (and amplified) off my own pride over being NGIW Champion. I've been in NGIW so many times, I've had numerous characters in this place, and I've only held the belt with one character and I never really felt like she was NGIW Champion during any of those reigns. They just never felt right to me for a number of reasons that I won't get into. When Chester won the belt, it was the highlight of all my years in NGIW and when he just kept shutting down some of the best roleplayers I've ever competed against in some really good feuds, it just made this latest NGIW run one of most fun times I've ever had. I'm just really sad that Chester vs. Wiggum isn't going to happen. |
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| Mjölnir | Mar 13 2012, 01:51 PM Post #15 |
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I hadn't left feedback because I just lacked a whole lot to say. Plus the issues from the earlier posts seemed more important. The contenders match felt overall pointless in the end. It was kind of a given, unless Dai really half assed it, Sakura was winning the match. Shame Roxie didn't pick somebody like Kim or Sara to at least create the idea there was some doubt as to who was winning this match. Nevertheless, congrats to Dai and maybe this is the start of bigger things for Sakura, albeit not sure what that means for hide if so. Best Of match was what I figured after Will no showed. Sucks for Finn & him but I was cool with either picking up the win here. It does nicely set up a few contenders for the belt going into the next PPV cycle. I knew I was losing the Midway match, afterall, it was Joe's second defense for this reign. Naw but seriously, I knew he was losing because writing RPs on my iPad and in the campus library aren't exactly match winning methods. It's whatever though has left me pondering what to do with Joe after this loss. Tag match was nice and from a RP standpoint, I agree with the decision. However I disagree if this is the last of Giggles and/or Spade, especially after seeing the new card. I hate the idea of belts being vacated all willy nilly. Also might be the pro-wres fan in me but typically, especially if you're a champion, if you're leaving you should go out on your back I feel. But I don't feel too strongly one way or the other, just a minor annoyance. RCR match was brutal and I have mixed feelings on the ending. Boy really bounced back after the last show and really showed he was trying to make up for it. While Triad was clearly pumping out alot of work as Bloodbath and on par with his usual quality. This was one of the ones that was hard for me to call a winner on as has often been the case when I've thought about Bloodbath's PPV matches. Alot of the time I end up feeling like he should win but that's more because I feel like he should be main eventing for the NGIW title than in slumming it, sort to speak, in the RCR division. So happy to see Club win and Bloodbath get the nod to move up to the NGIW title division, which is getting crowded, but sad to see Bloodbath lose too. The segment with gas mask and Kursur was a little confusing to read. I'm assuming something's happened to Kursur or something had happened to him. But it was unclear if it was something else or if it was gas mask's doing. Other than that, it was an interesting read and glad to see Kursur back. The main event was what has become the standard for the PPV main events, really good and entertaining matches. It does do a whole lot to put Roxie over as on Chester's level, something that felt a bit of an issue going into the match. Surprised by the ending, as I figured Chester was retaining, though not outraged by it either. Both RPed alot and well, so it was always going to be something of a toss up of which side the coin landed on. Also for Chester's last match, it was a pretty good sendoff. Curious times for the NGIW title division, new champ and Sakura, Wiggum and Bloodbath all gunning for the Winged Skull. |
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| Wigumoto | Mar 13 2012, 03:52 PM Post #16 |
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Really gutted to win the seven match series that way. As I said over in ReVolt's feedback, my week was pretty hectic so if he had gotten something up chances are it would have swung the other way. I still want Chester and Wiggum to happen, and I think there's enough animosity between the two to make it happen, just sucks it won't be for a belt. |
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| Nightmare | Mar 14 2012, 02:16 PM Post #17 |
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I do apologize to everybody for no-showing. If you're super-curious as to why I did, Wight pretty much knows everything. But I can tell you that it's for a very-very good reason. I will try my best to stick around, just things are totally insane at my house right now. |
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