Ultra Hardcore Yellow Version, opinions please

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: Before you go and start a new run, please read this.

Welcome to Nuzlocke Forum. We hope you enjoy your visit. We're a community based off the popular "Nuzlocke Challenge", a way of playing the Pokemon video game series on a higher level of difficulty. What is it exactly? Join us and find out that, and more!

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.

Join our community!

If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Ultra Hardcore Yellow Version, opinions please
Topic Started: Apr 2 2011, 03:20 PM (631 Views)
msasi98	Apr 2 2011, 03:20 PM Post #1
Conqueror of the Pewter Gym Posts: 11 Group: Trainer Member #4,775 Joined: April 2, 2011 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Relaxed	I know this is pretty long, but I'm wondering if this is possible / not excruciatingly hard. I'm gonna try it. Battle Style = Set POKEMON YELLOW HARDCORE NUZLOCKE NUZLOCKE: 1. Pokemon faint = release it a.s.a.p. 2. You can only catch the first (non-banned) pokemon (that you haven't caught before) that appears in each new area. If you fail to catch it for any reason, too bad. 3. Second rule applies to Snorlax. If you encountered a pokemon on that route before, you can't catch the Snorlax after. 4. No pokemon from cities except Gift ones. Safari Zone: Only two safari zone runs. 1. Your first run of the safari zone is for HMs / items, etc. Ignore all pokemon. 2. In your second run, you can catch one pokemon you want, it doesn't have to be the first that appears. If you run out of steps (time), or fail to catch a pokemon, too bad. Banned Pokemon: You may not use / catch these pokemon (if they are first pokemon to appear in area, doesn't count as first): 1. Pikachu (as soon as you can catch a different pokemon, do so, and put pikachu in the box forever). 2. Dragonite (Dragonair and Dratini are allowed) 3. Chansey 4. Diglett / Dugtrio 5. Legendaries 6. Pure Psychic-type pokemon (Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam, Drowzee, Hypno, Mr. Mime) --------------------------- Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle: You may only receive one of these. Randomly decide which you receive (roll die, etc.) Ignore the other two. 6 sided die: 1-2 is Bulbasaur. 3-4 is Charmander. 5-6 is Squirtle. Edit: you can't get bulbasaur because it requires pikachu happiness ---------------------------- Level Limit: All your pokemons max level is three levels lower than the next gym leaders highest level pokemon. Vs. elite four: level limit is 56 Pokemon may exceed max level if they level up in said gym / elite four. ----------------------------- Pokecenter Limit: only allowed three pokecenter heals per town. You are allowed one pokecenter heal at non-town pokecenters (like outside Mt. Moon). ------------------------------- Move Type Limit: Your party can only have the listed number of damage-dealing moves with these types: Ice - one (example: among all moves in your party, there can only be one ice damage dealing move. No doubles of the same move - you can't have two aurora beams, flamethrower, etc.) Fire - one Psychic - one (Psywave doesn't count towards this, it typeless) Water - two Ground - two Electric - two All other types - no limit If there is a point where this is impossible, like you have two pokemon with ice dealing moves because you just caught a new pokemon, you must choose one of those moves, and only use that move. You can have as many non-damage dealing moves of any type that you want. ------------------------------ No Doubles: You can't have two of the same pokemon in your party. ----------------------------- No Turning Back: no leaving a building / cave for heals until that area is complete / you get to other side (example: Silph Co, Mt. Moon, Victory Road, Rock Tunnel). No leaving a gym until gym leader is defeated. ---------------------------- Allowed: 1. HM slaves 2. EV training 3. Delaying evolution of a pokemon 4. Vs Elite Four: You are allowed 6 full restore vs the elite four, nothing else, and you can only use them outside battle. 5. Fossil pokemon 6. Gift pokemon 7. Any item / thing that is not banned or under "No" Banned TMs: TM36 - Selfdestruct TM47 - Explosion No: 1. Trading 2. Status healers or Potions - except the 6 full restores vs elite four, and, at the beginning of the game, you are allowed to buy 6 Antidote from Viridian City. These are the only Antidote you can use, and you can only use them outside of battle. Sell / ignore all other Antidote you find (keep track of how many Antidotes you used to avoid confusion). 5. PP Up 6. Ethers / Max Ethers / Elixir 7. X-Items / Guard Spec. 8. Revives / Max Revives 9. Repels Rocket Corner: No Rocket Corner prize pokemon, and you can only get one of each TM from here. Original post (ignore this) Spoiler: click to toggle When i design Nuzlocke runs I make them too hard or too easy, so I need help. I'd like it to be very hard, but not ridiculous. Here's my idea so far (for Ruby), tell me if it's too hard, very hard, or too easy: 1. faint = released 2. only catch the 1st new pokemon in each area, if you fail to catch it, too bad. Surfing/fishing count for this rule. Cities are their own area. Water and land in the same area are not independent - you cant get a water/fishing pokemon and a land pokemon from the same area. If you don't encounter a pokemon in an area that has pokemon, take note of that area. You may return to it later to catch a pokemon. Pokemon from the same evolution line count for others from the same line. If you had a pokemon, and it dies, you cannot catch another of that species, since it is not 'new'. 3. gift pokemon don't follow rules, they're freebies. 4. headbutt tree pokemon follow rules. other: 1. only buy 10 pokeballs (of any level) per town. 2. unlimited pokecenter use. 3. battle style = SET. 4. potions can only be used outside battle. 5. pokemon can't be a higher level than the next gym leaders' highest level pokemon. For elite four, pokemon can't be a higher level than the elite four champion's highest level pokemon. 6. You can use non-healing held items. No/can't use: status healers, unless found. full restore. berries. TMs. revives. repels. trading. master ball. X-items. legendaries. ethers. EXP share or any other items not listed unless required for plot. === Is it possible to win with this? Edited by msasi98, Apr 14 2011, 05:08 PM.



quarkyguy	Apr 2 2011, 04:12 PM Post #2
Resident Evil is best anime Posts: 5,163 Group: Gym Leader Member #652 Joined: May 23, 2010 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Quirky	Definitely doable. The no status thing could be difficult with the E4, but I don't remember if the Hoenn E4 has any status abusers in it.
	Successful Runs: Ruby, Fire Red Omega, Crystal, Pokemon Stadium, TRE, Legend Edition, Shiny Gold X, Bloody Platinum, Manly Pink What is this I don't even - Pokemon Septo Conquest Also...


Shadow31	Apr 2 2011, 04:15 PM Post #3
Resident nutcase Posts: 4,887 Group: Artist Member #1,930 Joined: August 27, 2010 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Relaxed Type 1: http://z5.ifrm.com/5908/85/0/f5028800/Water.png Area Met: Over there. By the rabbit hole.	It's possible to win with any rules, really. Whether it's "too hard" or "too easy" is dependabt on your personal opinion. I won't give my opinion, as I find the standard rules difficult enough. Clearly you find them easy, so my opinion matters not.
	If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill This is how I Minecraft, apparently.


Cypher DS	Apr 3 2011, 10:14 PM Post #4
Conqueror of the Violet Gym Posts: 580 Group: Trainer Member #2,107 Joined: September 3, 2010 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Quiet Type 1: http://z5.ifrm.com/5908/85/0/f5028784/Dark.png	No items, no TMs, a cap on leveling - this seems pretty tough to me. What strategies did you use in your previous runs that made them feel too easy, Msasi?
	4/9 - New Chapter! - The Lost Leader (complete!)


msasi98	Apr 9 2011, 06:01 PM Post #5
Conqueror of the Pewter Gym Posts: 11 Group: Trainer Member #4,775 Joined: April 2, 2011 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Relaxed	Cypher DS Apr 3 2011, 10:14 PM No items, no TMs, a cap on leveling - this seems pretty tough to me. What strategies did you use in your previous runs that made them feel too easy, Msasi? being able to grind above gym leaders level made it too easy, item use outside battle or even in battle is way too easy for me TO EVERYONE: I edited original post, I'm looking for opinions on the new challenge i want to try Edited by msasi98, Apr 9 2011, 06:01 PM.



therationalpi	Apr 10 2011, 12:49 AM Post #6
Add therationalpi on Dream World! Posts: 33 Group: Trainer Member #4,259 Joined: February 26, 2011 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Careful	This seems like too many rules to reasonably keep track of. I think you can simplify, while still keeping the level of difficulty you want (One use per pokecenter with no in-battle items would probably get you to where you want to be without all these extra rules). Still, it looks like you want a serious challenge that will make you EV train to succeed (I think you will have to to beat the gym leaders while being 3 levels below them). The move type list strikes me as something to cut. RBY pokemon have shallow movesets, and with the standard Nuzlocke catch rules, you probably won't have much say in what your type representation looks like. Moreover, I don't think that will make things harder so much as just more difficult to track. Also, remember that all the planning in the world can be undone by a single crit. This run will probably end badly.
	My dreamworld name is therationalpi, friendcode is 1592-4254-5342, please add me so we can water eachother's garden's and swap berries...if you know what I mean. wink wink My Nuzlocke Rules: Moemon FireRed 1. If a pokemon faints, you release them immediately. 2. Only catch the first pokemon you meet on a route. If you fail to catch them, tough. 2a. (Harem mode) Only catch the first female pokemon you meet on a route (Gift pokemon excluded, but no more than two male Pokemon on a team). 2b. (No duplicates) Only catch the first non-duplicate pokemon you meet on a route. 3. Nickname all pokemon (either punny girls' names, or suitably androgynous for the boys). 4. May only use each pokecenter a total of 1 time. 4a. Get an additional use immediately after defeating any gym leader. 4b. Pokemon may not be boxed, unless they have full PP, full health, and no status ailments. 5. No legendaries. 5a. All legendaries must be defeated.


Utahraptor	Apr 10 2011, 06:48 AM Post #7
Fossil Trainer Posts: 258 Group: Trainer Member #3,643 Joined: January 6, 2011 Nature: Adamant	This actually looks like a properly challenging run. In my opinion, boxing that Pikachu makes it a little easier since it's a pretty "meh" Pokemon, especially since it can't evolve. All in all these rules seem pretty reasonable, and as long as you keep track of everything, I don't forsee any issues. Good luck!
	Avatar from: http://creattica.com/photoshop/velociraptor/30723


msasi98	Apr 14 2011, 04:38 PM Post #8
Conqueror of the Pewter Gym Posts: 11 Group: Trainer Member #4,775 Joined: April 2, 2011 Gender: Male (♂) Nature: Relaxed	therationalpi Apr 10 2011, 12:49 AM This seems like too many rules to reasonably keep track of. I think you can simplify, while still keeping the level of difficulty you want (One use per pokecenter with no in-battle items would probably get you to where you want to be without all these extra rules). Still, it looks like you want a serious challenge that will make you EV train to succeed (I think you will have to to beat the gym leaders while being 3 levels below them). The move type list strikes me as something to cut. RBY pokemon have shallow movesets, and with the standard Nuzlocke catch rules, you probably won't have much say in what your type representation looks like. Moreover, I don't think that will make things harder so much as just more difficult to track. Also, remember that all the planning in the world can be undone by a single crit. This run will probably end badly. good points. ill remove the move type limit and alter some to simplify



1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)

Our users say it best: "A great way to make a forums for free and it is very reliable as well. Thank you Zetaboards." Learn More · Register for Free
« Previous Topic · Challenge Discussion · Next Topic »