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Ideas for a future video game...; Might as well start early.
Topic Started: Nov 21 2007, 10:51 AM (176 Views)
Kitsune	Nov 21 2007, 10:51 AM Post #1
The Iridescent Soul Posts: 64 Group: Members Member #38 Joined: August 17, 2007	Alright. I decided to put all of my thoughts for a game I thought I'd program when I grow up, since I will be majoring in video game programming in college. This is what I have so far: The game will be an MMO, fantasy medieval. (?) The combat system will consist of not just attacks and defense, but actual body parts. If someone slashes at your right arm, but you just jumped, they will miss. If you fire a gun and they strafe left, they might miss, etc. This applies to skills too. Every weapon has a condition, broken-> Rusted/old (Depending on metal content)-> Unpolished-> Polished-> Pristine->Enchanted/Glorious. The blades on bladed weapons will effect the attacks the user does. For example, a jagged edge is more likely to do more damage than a straight edge, however it is slower due to aerodynamics (A little bit slower) and can get stuck in your opponent's body, leaving you open to attack. Spellcasting will be mobile but will have a start up time, during tha time you can STILL move. I need recommendations on classes, spells, factions, armor, or all of the above. None of this is final, and I really want to hear all of your ideas. Ideas for the perfect MMO that you'd all play. Maybe one day your name will be in the "Special thanks to:". :D



Ozmodious	Nov 21 2007, 04:52 PM Post #2
Ignorance Is Bliss. Posts: 282 Group: Members Member #20 Joined: June 7, 2007	Try putting a spin on fantasy if your going to try and tug on Tolkein's old, crusty pair. Personally, I'd modernize the franchise and put an odd twist to it. Maybe make the main character the only human in a mechanized feudal world. Have robed monks fight with piston-powered pikes or have the main character cross the savannah on a caravan, trying to protect the inhabitants from fearsome lions. I once had aspirations of becoming a video game designer, but I dismissed it for writing. Either way, if you're going to even play your own game, you need to put a new spin to old twists and make it worth playing. Remember, your selling a product, and just because you like a particular genre doesn't mean everybody else will. Interesting storylines, whether they be quantum or linear (I.E. Beyond Good & Evil or Indigo Prophecy). or revolutionary game play that is as addicting as Prince of Persia or God of War. I wouldn't recommend setting your heart on dominating a gaming platform with the greatest game ever created, but keep your eyes on the idea of delivering a good gaming experience to your audience.



ΔSabertooth_XΔ	Nov 21 2007, 06:09 PM Post #3
Ōŋę Posts: 462 Group: S-Mod Member #8 Joined: June 4, 2007	Sounds kewl. Me and white are brainstorming something he's making on RPG Maker on his computer, i agree with what Oz says. Shit, i had to put a twist on dragons so that he could have them, (he's stubborn rwar!) And like Oz said, put a twist on the norm.



XWhiteish	Nov 21 2007, 08:11 PM Post #4
Campaign Tips Noob Posts: 236 Group: Members Member #31 Joined: July 22, 2007	Sabertooth_X Nov 21 2007, 07:09 PM Sounds kewl. Me and white are brainstorming something he's making on RPG Maker on his computer, i agree with what Oz says. Shit, i had to put a twist on dragons so that he could have them, (he's stubborn rwar!) And like Oz said, put a twist on the norm. How dare yeh call me stubborn! /pimpslap Lol. Yeah. We got a lot of story ideas done already. Soon I shall start working on it. MUAHAHAHA! But yeah, try to steer away from the cliches. "Bad guy ruling the world" just aint good anymore. >_>



Kitsune	Nov 22 2007, 12:34 PM Post #5
The Iridescent Soul Posts: 64 Group: Members Member #38 Joined: August 17, 2007	Alright alright, now I'd like specifics on...the mechanics of the gameplay, like special items, bosses, How to equal out all classes, Towns, etc etc. :P



Steve128967	Nov 22 2007, 01:12 PM Post #6
Effing Pro! Posts: 168 Group: Members Member #34 Joined: July 31, 2007	First thing I'd put in: REAL TIME COMBAT. It's pretty boring being locked in combat just pressing buttons with no movements, or for me anyway. Like Mass Effect I suppose, except without all the gunz. Classes shouldn't have any major advantage over the other so that in the end it relies on the actual skill of the player. I never really liked summons, or more specifically controlling thing more than one entity. Then again I don't really like microing either, so. More ideas will come later.



Ozmodious	Nov 22 2007, 02:08 PM Post #7
Ignorance Is Bliss. Posts: 282 Group: Members Member #20 Joined: June 7, 2007	Kit. Look up the Fallout games and play them. It'd widen your perspective on whatever it is your trying to do. I'm getting the sense your trying to do something like Baulder's Gate. And the only thing that could do it better than that would either be the diablo games or the fallout saga. Besides, I'm not doing all the heavy lifting for ya', figure it out! ;)



Steve128967	Nov 22 2007, 02:13 PM Post #8
Effing Pro! Posts: 168 Group: Members Member #34 Joined: July 31, 2007	Only thing I dislike about Fallout 2 is that it's turn based. My friend got killed by a zombie child or some shit with a grenade. A ZOMBIE CHILD.



BlindSorcerer	Nov 22 2007, 02:55 PM Post #9
Kicker of asses and Lord of all creation Posts: 113 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: August 25, 2007	I'd try to minimize traditional mmo 'grinding' as much as possible. Games should be fun to play, not a chore. Perhaps a more in depth armor system would be something to experiment with so instead of say: 'Leather armor +20 armor, Full plate +50 armor' You could make it so that wearing heavier armor actually slows you down to a crawl, whilst truly providing a solid defence against piercing and slashing weapons, but on the other hand making you more vulnerable to blunt weapons, electricity (magic) and fast-moving opponents. While light armor on the other hand would allow you to be far more mobile and dart around an enemy, dodging his attacks instead. But, if you get hit, you're going down. I think such a system might add more depth to combat and you'd actually have to think about what armor or weapon to use for what battle, but its something you'd have to tinker with extensively.



Ozmodious	Nov 22 2007, 03:00 PM Post #10
Ignorance Is Bliss. Posts: 282 Group: Members Member #20 Joined: June 7, 2007	Steve128967 Nov 22 2007, 07:13 PM Only thing I dislike about Fallout 2 is that it's turn based. The best part is THAT its turned based! Com'n! Grow a pair and suck it up, son. =P



Admiral_Dealin	Nov 22 2007, 05:51 PM Post #11
Alterity of the World Posts: 393 Group: Members Member #21 Joined: June 12, 2007	For Storyline, i suggest trying something based on a TimeTree. This would look something similar to an action branches off to multiple choices which therefore branch off to more choices, ect ect. So you choose to take the job, and kill some random guy. Well then 3 more people may now want to hire you. you now have 3 choices. choice one could lead you to working for some mafia type group (Which could make you take the downfall for them, or you become the target of many assassination attempts, or you soon lead the mafia). Choice two might lead you into an ambush, therefore dead, captured and tortured, or hired into a slave trade (Which could mean you help put an end to slave trades, or you make it to the afterlife and free the afterlife from demons, or you gain an extream aceptance to pain and you become a beserker). and choice three gets you a load of cash which you can use to buy yourself a new car (Which in turn could lead to you getting robbed, or arrested for speeding too often, or being able to get to clients better). For armour, why don't you try something less intone with +20 AC for leather armour. For example, Chain mail has a high chance of stopping jabbed from spears and other melee weapons, and stops arrows. But bolts and hacks and axes and hammers and such shatter it, leaving you vulnerable. Platemail can have weaknesses under arms, and at necks, but is less vulnerable. It can also be heavier and its easy to pierce. Having leather armour would make you more mobile, and its better then standard clothing, but you would die from arrows, and most other weapons. Also, i recommend having things like Plate Mail, Chain mail and then a mixture of Plate Mail and Chain Mail, good against both, but heavier and not as good at either as one or the other. And have clothing with steel rods placed in the sleeves so you can block cutting weapons with your arms. And shields with spikes on them so you can bash them with that. Hammers that have spikes on the top can bash, and then spear others in a single move. Swords with serrated edges that can not only slice, but can rip, but have a chance to get stuck. Slim swords that move faster and are lighter, but can pierce thick armour well, but are meant for hitting vulnerable spots (Eye slits, neck, face) (Something like a rapier). Double sided axes, hammers and swords that you can swing around and hit people around you with, but you have a high chance to hit yourself if you are not good with it. Polearms with a blade on the end, and a spear on the top so you can slash, and when you miss, spear them. Nets to tangle your enemy in. Projectiles should not auto matically leave, they should have to be taken out, thus making you want to wear armour more. And arrows that cause alot of damage to take out. Poisoned arrows that a fleeing enemy will die from. Weapons could get old, for example Quote: Every weapon has a condition, broken-> Rusted/old (Depending on metal content)-> Unpolished-> Polished-> Pristine->Enchanted/Glorious. But that could have a bonus too. A sword that breaks easily because it is rusted could also poison the person hit with it with rust poisoning, or it could shatter in the person, spreading shards throughout them, or give them splinters (plus the user) or be so sharp that it cuts through armour better. Magic should be of 5 forms, one should be incantations, one should be read from books, one should be from memory, one should be from surroundings, and one from a diety. Incantations would be more powerful, but would require time for the character to draw a inscription on whaterever is handy, and they have a higher chance to fail, since any mess up makes it fail (These would be like, circles of protections that noone can pass, invisability spells, something that expands, hurting the things it touches ect). The ones from books are read in a foriegn language, so they take a bit of time, and they are a bit more powerful, all they have to do is read the spell, and point, and that where it would go (Spells like summoning creatures, controlling cratures, calling a windstorm, calling a lightning storm, ect). Ones from surroundings are spells that can only be used in specific enviornments, such as fire near a fireplace, or lightning in a cloud( these are like fireballs, lightning bolts, whirlwinds, earthquakes, trees moving, ect) these can be from any of the other 4 types, so they can be incantations, read from books, from memory, or just from a diety. Ones from memory are quick spells, such as opening locks, or a burst of air to knock one back, or to pull them closer, or something to push you higher in the sky. Ones from dieties are related to the diety. For example the goddess of rain would grant water powers, and lightning powers, while the god of the mountains to the north may grant assorted powers, but only in his area would they be their true strength. For classes, why dont you try a Rock-Paper-Scissors method (will explain in a minute). I think you should have atleast 5 classes. You need to have healer, and warrior and mage of course and probably rouge and druid. Why dont you have sub classes though. You can have for healer, Paladin and Cleric, for Warrior, Barabarian and Samurai, for Mage, Warlock and Magus, for Rouge, Assasin and Spy, for Druid, Hermit and Natures Tender. You could have a subclass bonus for each faction as well. For example the savage race of (Sorry i have no better names Kit) Ildasia, may have beserker Warriors, while the magical race of Eldasia may have Archmage mages or Shaman healers, and the Earth based Oredasians may have StoneMaster Druids. For the Rock-Paper-Scissors method, it would basically mean that one class is good against another class and weak against another and fair against the rest. But to put a twist on that i think that it could be changed around. Rather then Warrior beating healer, healer beating druid, druid beating rouge, rouge beating mage, and mage beating warrior, it can have a twist. Samurai can beat healer(Through high damage precision strikes), paladin can beat druid( through use of healing to keep himself alive longer and good enough damage), hermit can beat rouge(Being able to see the rouge), spy can beat mage (Being able to sneak in and disrupt long spells, and hiding before short spells come up. And Warlock can beat Warrior (High damage spells kill to fast). But as the twist, Barbarian could beat mage (Closing in too fast), Magus could beat rouge (lots of mobility and sight spells), Assassin could beat druid (Sneak past helpers, and strike deadly with poison before they know hes there), natures Tender can beat healer (Lots of helpers to help kill), and cleric can beat warrior (Through use of healing and protection spells). The ones that are good against eachother (like Magus and Spy or Nature Tender and paladin) are just as good against eachother as they are against everyone they do not speciallise against (Like Rouge and warrior, or Druid and mage) You would start off as one of the 5 classes, then as you go through certain actions (Like extream pain, or live honourable, or study darker magics) then you become the subclass (Beserker, samuari, warlock). Skills would also play apart, if you maser the sword then you become faster on the road to Samurai. Also Each faction could have their own line of skills so Ildaisan's would have alot of rage skills that noone else has, and Oredasia would have alot of earth shields and stomping and shaking the ground abilities that noone else has. Well, thats about all i can think of for now, heh its a bit long. And sorry for the wall of text.



Kitsune	Nov 23 2007, 12:50 PM Post #12
The Iridescent Soul Posts: 64 Group: Members Member #38 Joined: August 17, 2007	All of this feedback is very good, thanks. ^_^



ΔWestwallyΔ	Nov 23 2007, 02:01 PM Post #13
Posts: 69 Group: S-Mod Member #44 Joined: October 10, 2007	My only advice, that I can think of at the moment. Keep.The controls. Simple. D: And don't fuck too much with clunky camera angles! N...try to include a monster system! Not the pansy Pokemanz system, I'm talkin the good shit, like from Lufia or Dragon Warrior/Quest.



Steve128967	Nov 23 2007, 05:48 PM Post #14
Effing Pro! Posts: 168 Group: Members Member #34 Joined: July 31, 2007	Or Diablo 2. <3



ΔSabertooth_XΔ	Nov 24 2007, 11:39 AM Post #15
Ōŋę Posts: 462 Group: S-Mod Member #8 Joined: June 4, 2007	I'd say that you'll probably run into trouble trying to make this thing. For all we know, people will still be trying to make a WoW killer 5 years from now. And if you really want to make this, remember it. I've had a couple game ideas, and i cant remember what any of them were. But anything said here shouldnt stop you :D


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