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Brian: The Existential philosopher
Topic Started: Apr 13 2011, 06:05 AM (569 Views)
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someone sum that shit up for me
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Apr 14 2011, 02:06 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 02:05 AM
BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 01:50 AM
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and I was hoping for a discussion rather than the boring BS
lol its pxe
lol vee made a joke
well its true <:

no offence to brian though.
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Layne. says (1:21 AM):
*have poochyena
Layne. says (1:21 AM):
*he's just in my team as a slave
Vee says (1:21 AM):
*:O YOU HAVE SLAVES?
Vee says (1:21 AM):
*SHAME ON YOU
Layne. says (1:21 AM):
*only black ones
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Apr 14 2011, 02:22 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 02:06 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 02:05 AM
BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 01:50 AM
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and I was hoping for a discussion rather than the boring BS
lol its pxe
lol vee made a joke
well its true <:

no offence to brian though.
none taken

at least I made an attempt to make a worthwhile topic

I remember when we actually had tons of discussions that weren't an incoherent blob. And when the random comments that said "fuck off" were funny because they weren't the majority-- now the shock humor isn't funny and has become the majority.
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BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 01:50 AM
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and I was hoping for a discussion rather than the boring BS
I figured if I had a discussion on it I would hurt your feelings and I wouldn't want that.
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Apr 14 2011, 03:24 AM
BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 01:50 AM
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and I was hoping for a discussion rather than the boring BS
I figured if I had a discussion on it I would hurt your feelings and I wouldn't want that.
I can't tell what this means.
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Well I'll start at I didn't like it and I didn't want you feel bad or anything, though I doubt that you care about my opinion on your philosophy/poetry.
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Apr 14 2011, 05:44 AM
Well I'll start at I didn't like it and I didn't want you feel bad or anything, though I doubt that you care about my opinion on your philosophy/poetry.
it isn't poetry, and you're not supposed to "like" philosophy

philosophy is meant to be debated, criticized, agreed with, extended

You CLEARLY didn't read it. Or you didn't understand it, because what you just said is something I spoke about in the paragraph.

maybe it's my fault for not being able to articulate to you in particular, or for misspelling, maybe the poor structure?
Edited by BrianAFC, Apr 14 2011, 05:47 AM.
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Apr 14 2011, 02:22 AM
someone sum that shit up for me
We shouldn't seek fact, or truth.
We should must constantly try to deny truths, facts, etcetera
We must constantly create
We, above all, have the ability to create; abilities are meant to be used, thus we are meant to create
If we continue to criticize and modify what we create continuously, we maintain the potential for perfection
Because everything has the potential for perfection, in theory, but potential fades with the finishing of a creation
SO: continuously create, and recreate

Something analogous:

to potential...
you are building a box
you try pretty hard, and you "finish" the box
the box is finished
however, the box can still be improved upon
but if you never finish the box, the box can always have the potential for perfection

applying this to humanity, a human that remains dynamic (in motion) has that potential for perfection. A human that DOESN'T, and is a "finished product", so to speak, no longer has any potential for perfection. It's pretty raw, I have to work out the kinks, but I'm attempting to connect this to how we age (we go from completely ignorant, to progressive, to dogmatic).
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BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 05:46 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 05:44 AM
Well I'll start at I didn't like it and I didn't want you feel bad or anything, though I doubt that you care about my opinion on your philosophy/poetry.
it isn't poetry, and you're not supposed to "like" philosophy

philosophy is meant to be debated, criticized, agreed with, extended

You CLEARLY didn't read it. Or you didn't understand it, because what you just said is something I spoke about in the paragraph.

maybe it's my fault for not being able to articulate to you in particular, or for misspelling, maybe the poor structure?
I guess I just do not understand what you do. DIfferent planes of understanding.
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Apr 14 2011, 06:10 AM
BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 05:46 AM
Xeta
Apr 14 2011, 05:44 AM
Well I'll start at I didn't like it and I didn't want you feel bad or anything, though I doubt that you care about my opinion on your philosophy/poetry.
it isn't poetry, and you're not supposed to "like" philosophy

philosophy is meant to be debated, criticized, agreed with, extended

You CLEARLY didn't read it. Or you didn't understand it, because what you just said is something I spoke about in the paragraph.

maybe it's my fault for not being able to articulate to you in particular, or for misspelling, maybe the poor structure?
I guess I just do not understand what you do. DIfferent planes of understanding.
explain to me what different planes of understanding are

I'm confused
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Different planes of understanding, thinking, imagination. There's what, 6 billion people on earth? You can categorize them into different planes of thinking. You have the douches who listen to shit rap and watch MTV or college professors or people like you or people like me or people like Vee or people like Nikki or people who get pokemon tattoos. or people who get a kick out of causing a genocide. Everyone is different, but no one is unique. People have similar ideas, even without expressing them or talking about them or posting them in a topic in a forum about graphics where the constant joke is that it has nothing to do with graphics. The entire world is an endless column with layers, or planes. People are grouped into them. You are in one, with people who have the same mindset/thinking processes/ideas as you. And sometimes what makes sense to you cannot make sense to others not in that plane, because they just do not understand what you do, you do not understand what they do.

You and I, are not in the same plane.

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Apr 14 2011, 07:03 AM
Different planes of understanding, thinking, imagination. There's what, 6 billion people on earth? You can categorize them into different planes of thinking. You have the douches who listen to shit rap and watch MTV or college professors or people like you or people like me or people like Vee or people like Nikki or people who get pokemon tattoos. or people who get a kick out of causing a genocide. Everyone is different, but no one is unique. People have similar ideas, even without expressing them or talking about them or posting them in a topic in a forum about graphics where the constant joke is that it has nothing to do with graphics. The entire world is an endless column with layers, or planes. People are grouped into them. You are in one, with people who have the same mindset/thinking processes/ideas as you. And sometimes what makes sense to you cannot make sense to others not in that plane, because they just do not understand what you do, you do not understand what they do.

You and I, are not in the same plane.

that's not how things work, though

I assume you understand mathematics, right? So does most of humanity.

You ever read a book? Better put, have you ever read Russeau, Nietszche, any philosopher? They have very particular ways of thinking, more importantly, they have ideas that you can understand. Understanding has little to with your condescension of the human race, and your idea that we're all on different planes of understanding. Because what you WANT to speak about seems to be about agreeing, and assent is most definitely NOT understanding. For example, I UNDERSTAND Joseph Stalin's tactics, but it doesn't mean I agree with them. I can see where you're coming from, and what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with it.

Secondly, I completely refute your claim that humanity is just a gigantic blob, or several gigantic blobs-- hiveminds. You cannot categorize people in different planes of thinking, that's simply ridiculous. You can categorize their test scores, sure, that's what IQ tests are for; it's how we classify idiots and geniuses. Yet even those are flawed.

I find what you say to be very disturbing, that you believe in the extreme, absolute equality where people are LITERALLY equal at every "plane." Particularly because that denounces the very acknowledgment of genius; Michelangelo, Einstein, Mill, Bob Dylan all are creative geniuses, right? Are you to say that their works aren't unique? Jesus, I haven't heard anybody forgo individualism whilst speaking of idealism or even reality in all my life.
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BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 05:55 AM
If we continue to criticize and modify what we create continuously, we maintain the potential for perfection
Because everything has the potential for perfection, in theory, but potential fades with the finishing of a creation
SO: continuously create, and recreate
This part reminds me of the theory that energy can't be destroyed, it can only change into a different kind of energy.

It's cool.


Also, FUCK TOO MANY LONG POST ARGH
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Apr 14 2011, 07:57 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 07:03 AM
Different planes of understanding, thinking, imagination. There's what, 6 billion people on earth? You can categorize them into different planes of thinking. You have the douches who listen to shit rap and watch MTV or college professors or people like you or people like me or people like Vee or people like Nikki or people who get pokemon tattoos. or people who get a kick out of causing a genocide. Everyone is different, but no one is unique. People have similar ideas, even without expressing them or talking about them or posting them in a topic in a forum about graphics where the constant joke is that it has nothing to do with graphics. The entire world is an endless column with layers, or planes. People are grouped into them. You are in one, with people who have the same mindset/thinking processes/ideas as you. And sometimes what makes sense to you cannot make sense to others not in that plane, because they just do not understand what you do, you do not understand what they do.

You and I, are not in the same plane.

that's not how things work, though

I assume you understand mathematics, right? So does most of humanity.

You ever read a book? Better put, have you ever read Russeau, Nietszche, any philosopher? They have very particular ways of thinking, more importantly, they have ideas that you can understand. Understanding has little to with your condescension of the human race, and your idea that we're all on different planes of understanding. Because what you WANT to speak about seems to be about agreeing, and assent is most definitely NOT understanding. For example, I UNDERSTAND Joseph Stalin's tactics, but it doesn't mean I agree with them. I can see where you're coming from, and what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with it.

Secondly, I completely refute your claim that humanity is just a gigantic blob, or several gigantic blobs-- hiveminds. You cannot categorize people in different planes of thinking, that's simply ridiculous. You can categorize their test scores, sure, that's what IQ tests are for; it's how we classify idiots and geniuses. Yet even those are flawed.

I find what you say to be very disturbing, that you believe in the extreme, absolute equality where people are LITERALLY equal at every "plane." Particularly because that denounces the very acknowledgment of genius; Michelangelo, Einstein, Mill, Bob Dylan all are creative geniuses, right? Are you to say that their works aren't unique? Jesus, I haven't heard anybody forgo individualism whilst speaking of idealism or even reality in all my life.
And that's how we're different.
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Apr 14 2011, 03:24 PM
BrianAFC
Apr 14 2011, 07:57 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 07:03 AM
Different planes of understanding, thinking, imagination. There's what, 6 billion people on earth? You can categorize them into different planes of thinking. You have the douches who listen to shit rap and watch MTV or college professors or people like you or people like me or people like Vee or people like Nikki or people who get pokemon tattoos. or people who get a kick out of causing a genocide. Everyone is different, but no one is unique. People have similar ideas, even without expressing them or talking about them or posting them in a topic in a forum about graphics where the constant joke is that it has nothing to do with graphics. The entire world is an endless column with layers, or planes. People are grouped into them. You are in one, with people who have the same mindset/thinking processes/ideas as you. And sometimes what makes sense to you cannot make sense to others not in that plane, because they just do not understand what you do, you do not understand what they do.

You and I, are not in the same plane.

that's not how things work, though

I assume you understand mathematics, right? So does most of humanity.

You ever read a book? Better put, have you ever read Russeau, Nietszche, any philosopher? They have very particular ways of thinking, more importantly, they have ideas that you can understand. Understanding has little to with your condescension of the human race, and your idea that we're all on different planes of understanding. Because what you WANT to speak about seems to be about agreeing, and assent is most definitely NOT understanding. For example, I UNDERSTAND Joseph Stalin's tactics, but it doesn't mean I agree with them. I can see where you're coming from, and what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with it.

Secondly, I completely refute your claim that humanity is just a gigantic blob, or several gigantic blobs-- hiveminds. You cannot categorize people in different planes of thinking, that's simply ridiculous. You can categorize their test scores, sure, that's what IQ tests are for; it's how we classify idiots and geniuses. Yet even those are flawed.

I find what you say to be very disturbing, that you believe in the extreme, absolute equality where people are LITERALLY equal at every "plane." Particularly because that denounces the very acknowledgment of genius; Michelangelo, Einstein, Mill, Bob Dylan all are creative geniuses, right? Are you to say that their works aren't unique? Jesus, I haven't heard anybody forgo individualism whilst speaking of idealism or even reality in all my life.
And that's how we're different.
lol@u
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If you say so.
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Apr 15 2011, 06:32 AM
If you say so.
I do, brah.
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Apr 14 2011, 07:57 AM
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Apr 14 2011, 07:03 AM
Different planes of understanding, thinking, imagination. There's what, 6 billion people on earth? You can categorize them into different planes of thinking. You have the douches who listen to shit rap and watch MTV or college professors or people like you or people like me or people like Vee or people like Nikki or people who get pokemon tattoos. or people who get a kick out of causing a genocide. Everyone is different, but no one is unique. People have similar ideas, even without expressing them or talking about them or posting them in a topic in a forum about graphics where the constant joke is that it has nothing to do with graphics. The entire world is an endless column with layers, or planes. People are grouped into them. You are in one, with people who have the same mindset/thinking processes/ideas as you. And sometimes what makes sense to you cannot make sense to others not in that plane, because they just do not understand what you do, you do not understand what they do.

You and I, are not in the same plane.

that's not how things work, though

I assume you understand mathematics, right? So does most of humanity.

You ever read a book? Better put, have you ever read Russeau, Nietszche, any philosopher? They have very particular ways of thinking, more importantly, they have ideas that you can understand. Understanding has little to with your condescension of the human race, and your idea that we're all on different planes of understanding. Because what you WANT to speak about seems to be about agreeing, and assent is most definitely NOT understanding. For example, I UNDERSTAND Joseph Stalin's tactics, but it doesn't mean I agree with them. I can see where you're coming from, and what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with it.

Secondly, I completely refute your claim that humanity is just a gigantic blob, or several gigantic blobs-- hiveminds. You cannot categorize people in different planes of thinking, that's simply ridiculous. You can categorize their test scores, sure, that's what IQ tests are for; it's how we classify idiots and geniuses. Yet even those are flawed.

I find what you say to be very disturbing, that you believe in the extreme, absolute equality where people are LITERALLY equal at every "plane." Particularly because that denounces the very acknowledgment of genius; Michelangelo, Einstein, Mill, Bob Dylan all are creative geniuses, right? Are you to say that their works aren't unique? Jesus, I haven't heard anybody forgo individualism whilst speaking of idealism or even reality in all my life.
I originally didn't feel like addressing your post seriously because there won't be a winner in this because both of us have very different views on humanity, but I'm sort of bored and I have nothing better to do so....

I didn't mean like understanding as in understanding a basic concept such as 2 x 2 = 13 or understanding where Hitler was coming from (until he killed the jews) or understanding the headline of the newspaper. You're going too narrow minded. I meant understanding in the way you think, process data. As an atheist I can read the bible and understand it, even though they have ideas that I don't understand (i.e. believing in a deity). I shouldn't have used understanding and I only did because you said you I didn't get what you were saying. I personally just thought it was cliche

I never said humanity was a or several giant blobs, I said a column. It isn't in black and white. It's not real. It's a metaphor. It was just the easiest way I found to describe it. It isn't, you think like this so you have to be with everyone else who thinks like this and you can't like anyone else. It was a stupid metaphor and I posted it at 2:03AM so I was not at my fullest mental state. The whole idea was a terrible representation of my views.

But I really want to say out of that list you posted the only one who I consider a genius is Einstein. Or Isaac Newton. Which brings the fact that genius is just a word that can be applied subjectively. You say Bob Dylan is a creative genius, I say Bob Dylan is a creative writer who speaks/sings in an interesting manner and used to play good harmonica.

And, I never said people's WORKS aren't unique, I said people, and more specifically, they way they think, is not unique.

Anyways I'm sure you will tear this apart so I'll pleasantly and eargerly await your reply.

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omg a debate on here that doesn't involve me?

something must change.

FUCK YOU BEN AND BRIAN.

there, now it's a three-way argument. commence.
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Layne. says (1:21 AM):
*have poochyena
Layne. says (1:21 AM):
*he's just in my team as a slave
Vee says (1:21 AM):
*:O YOU HAVE SLAVES?
Vee says (1:21 AM):
*SHAME ON YOU
Layne. says (1:21 AM):
*only black ones
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believe it or not vee, but I think your srs would actually be more welcomed here

I know, :OOO, isn't it?
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