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| king benji I of pxe | Feb 18 2013, 12:21 AM Post #1 |
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Suicide is not a fucking option ever. If any of you have or are considering suicide, or know some one that is, for the love of fucking God talk them out of it. There is ALWAYS a way through, and suicide is never the answer to your problems. The pain and devastation this leaves behind is just too great to justify doing so. End of. Thank you for listening. |
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| Proc | Feb 18 2013, 12:34 AM Post #2 |
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I think the problem is that those who suicide don't think on the "subjective" side enough. A lot of people say "x" person will miss you, and so will "y", and "z". And, the person contemplating suicide will generally consider this, and get over it or don't, but leave an apologetic note (seldom times backing out or failing). From what I've seen and heard from friends, not too much of that is a big enough roadblock to make them reconsider; however, given the same amount of time to realize everything that you yourself won't be able to do (you know, being dead and all), it tips the scales. That's just the way I see it, though; I'm just an outsider looking in. More short opinions: Is suicide awful? Yes. Is it an answer? Yes. Is it a good answer? No. Should you talk someone out of suicide, given the opportunity? Too broad to short answer, but, one can only help another as much as they are willing to accept. |
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| Volke | Feb 18 2013, 11:50 AM Post #3 |
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Well, the argument against the whole 'don't kill yourself x, y and z will be really upset' argument is that if you simply don't want to live anymore, why should you continue your misery just so that other people will be happy you're not dead? Not that I agree with suicide. Personally, I think it is awful and not the answer. |
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| yossy | Feb 18 2013, 11:57 AM Post #4 |
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it kind of gives me the shits when people say suicide is so selfish. like, seriously, what a slap in the face. but i guess it's true |
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| BURNOUTFREAK | Feb 18 2013, 12:02 PM Post #5 |
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^I was just about to say the same. Let's look at people who've committed suicide in the past. Kurt Cobain left his wife and daughter. Obviously he loved them to some extent but that never stopped him, as well as the countless others who left someone behind. Personally I've been to some dark places where family and friends were the last things on my mind. |
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| BURNOUTFREAK | Feb 18 2013, 12:03 PM Post #6 |
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2 Cabbages away from insanity
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Actually aimed at Volke but that works too |
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| Proc | Feb 18 2013, 01:28 PM Post #7 |
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Grim topic aside, the order of "likes" I received on my first post in this topic spells, "Lejn fuck Fox". Conversely, Volke's says "Lejn fuck jessica". It is a sign; get to it, folks. |
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| Volke | Feb 18 2013, 03:56 PM Post #8 |
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Wasn't Jessica Lejn's girlfriend at one point? |
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| Proc | Feb 18 2013, 04:24 PM Post #9 |
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Which makes mine funnier. |
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| Roark | Feb 18 2013, 10:48 PM Post #10 |
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In my opinion, f you have the right to live, you have the right to die. It's the individual's choice to commit suicide or not, and if they honestly, without question, do not want to live, then you have no right taking that away from them. Who are you to say that not living is better than living? All you've ever done is live. Do I think suicide is selfish? Of course. Then again, the question of suicide is completely individualistic, and I think others' opinions shouldn't influence the answer. Unless that influence is important to the individual. Not to say that I agree with impulsive suicide, because I don't. 'Spur of the moment' suicides are always terrible. Just my opinion. Edited by Roark, Feb 18 2013, 10:49 PM.
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| beneta | Feb 19 2013, 01:10 AM Post #11 |
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If people don't enjoy living and do not want to live anymore I'm not going to make them, I will try and talk them out of it but I will not guilt them into continue living an unsatisfactory life. |
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| king benji I of pxe | Feb 19 2013, 05:10 AM Post #12 |
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I'm just curious here, has anyone had a really close friend/family member commit suicide? |
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| Volke | Feb 19 2013, 01:40 PM Post #13 |
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Nah. I know of plenty of people who committed suicide but I didn't personally know any of them. |
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| Volke | Feb 19 2013, 01:40 PM Post #14 |
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By 'plenty' I mean about 6. |
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| Proc | Feb 19 2013, 01:59 PM Post #15 |
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No, but I've had two or three friends contemplating. |
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| Gyarados | Feb 19 2013, 04:06 PM Post #16 |
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When I first came to Spain I didn't speak any Spanish. My only friend was a slightly weird kid that spoke a little English. He was my best friend for about four years, but became a drug addict and sort of drifted away. Last year I found out he had committed suicide, which was horrible, because it made me felt guilty as fuck. I already got twangs of guilt whenever I thought that I could have stopped him turning to heavy drugs, and this was just the shitty icing on a cake of shit. That said, he owed a lot of money to the wrong people and his family had basically disowned him. Last I heard his life was utter crap, so I doubt I could have changed what he did. Though I wasn't that close to him towards the end of his life, he was still a big part of my life a while back and it hurt a lot to hear he had kicked the bucket, mainly because we would occasionally meet up for the odd beer, or have a laugh if I ever randomly saw him in town. Anyway, not much to contribute to the topic. Of course, I'm against suicide, because I believe that no matter how shitty things are you can turn it all around, even if just shifting perspective, unless you truly are fucked in life and every waking moment is torture. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will disagree with my, kind of, inconsiderate point of view, but my honest opinion is that things can always be much worse than they are. Suicide seems cowardly to me because there are so few life situations that could actually warrant such action. Though I'm never inappropriate, I've argued and lost some not so close friends over my opinions regarding suicide, mainly because I've been told by people that their contemplating before, and I wasn't the most sensitive person about it. I'm not an insensitive person at all, but I'm pretty blunt when it comes to these things. If you're just fishing for pity, you can fish somewhere else, and if I'm genuinely worried I'll tell you the way I see things; by taking your own life you're not helping anyone. You're just going to put a lot of other people through a hard time because you were unable to live through conditions that plenty of other people get through and emerge stronger from at the end. Suicide is weakness, and it's letting everything that's ever tried to beat you down win. Sure, if you need help to get through a hard time, I'm there for you, but too many people don't actually want help and just want you to feel sorry for them. So yeah, that's what I think, and I understand if anyone is a bit offended by it or disagrees completely. |
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| Gyarados | Feb 19 2013, 04:08 PM Post #17 |
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Shit, that was longer and more serious than I initially planned. |
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| Nikkisaur | Feb 19 2013, 04:21 PM Post #18 |
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^There have been shit loads of suicides in spain and here due to house repossessions. There has been plenty of attempts in my family including some successes...dont worry neither myself or my sis have tried. We have too many video games to live for XD |
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| Unc | Feb 19 2013, 06:54 PM Post #19 |
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I've had couple of close calls, that was a rough two years though she finally went to counseling place and buckled down. and evidently found food. Which is okay but another form of suicide |
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| Zenrad | Feb 19 2013, 09:58 PM Post #20 |
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I had 3 people who were somewhat close to me commit suicide within the last...5 years. I had one neighbor who did it (He was in/near his forties). I had a classmate, who I wasn't close with personally. But living in a small town with about 20 people per graduation class it did it pretty hard. Then a year a go a friend of mine committed. Which probably hit the worst. Recently it has been a strong consideration for me. I feel like I hit a patch in life where I feel like I will go no where in life and don't really care anymore. Roarks post really brings up a good point that I've never really thought of. I've always tried to say I'm against it, even though it has been a strong consideration for myself. |
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