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| A concern about "egos" | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 12 2008, 12:36 PM (171 Views) | |
| Mr. D | Jul 12 2008, 12:36 PM Post #1 |
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After last night’s little spat, I’ve noticed a growing trend in SCW. And it all revolves the little subject called egos. It’s kind of funny, but kind of sad too. The fact of the matter is that things are starting to get rough again with regards to them. But before I starting going through the problem, I’m just going to clarify something: Everyone has an ego. Sorry, it’s a fact of human psychology. Every human being has one. It is what causes the need to defend oneself or friends to be natural and almost completely instinctual. So, when people say they get tired of egos, it’s usually quite funny to me. I say this, knowing full well that I have my own ego. But I’ve learned to keep it in check. I don’t go off on people who go off on me on the boards. I choose to do it in more low-key ways. I often keep it to myself or just tell one person who I know won’t spread the word and that’s that. And this is coming from someone who for five years, I have deal with the entire gambit of people’s egos. From people complaining about a loss, to a storyline, to that their roleplay wasn’t read correctly, to insulting on the boards, to not getting enough of a push on the shows, to whatever else you want to suggest. I’ve likely dealt with it. So, I think I’m able to speak on this subject. Therefore, looking at last night’s post was a very significant thing for me. It showed me some sort of a trend may be beginning. A joke was made, without malice of any sort. It was a sentence. Granted, it was a sentence that if one just skimmed it could easily be taken poorly, with a solid read through, it could be clearly identified as a joke, for two reasons. One…it wasn’t made in a distinctively mocking manner and two, the poster has RARELY, if ever, posted something taunting another roleplayer on the boards. I realize this is not necessarily a fool-proof method of determining the intent behind a post, but it’s usually pretty solid. And the rebuttal to this post, was probably far worse than the post itself and despite a pointless disclaimer that said he did not intend to do something, before actually doing it, that person is lucky that I wasn’t in a negative mood and thus, he’d be likely not enjoying a certain title win. However this is nothing new. We have certain cliques being created where they watch out for their friends and their associates and that, in itself, is somewhat commendable. It shows loyal and care. And furthermore, I don’t expect by any stretch that everyone gets along and holds hands. That would just be insane, when looking at a roster that consistently has anywhere from 30 to 50 unique roleplayers, active and inactive, on the boards at any given time. Not everyone is going to get along. But I think people need to notice something about SCW. For the first time, since 2004, SCW does not have a consistent shit-disturber on the boards. Think about it. The Real Speed, David Miller and Hunter are no longer present on the boards. Cid Turner and Chad Evans have managed to tone down their posts to become two of the most active, but also entertaining posters on the boards. Other individuals who caused problems have either left on their own, been asked to leave and have chosen not to return. OOC wise, SCW is probably at the best its ever been. People are posting on the OOC board. People aren’t afraid to post. And people are interacting and just having fun, whether it is discussing something in baseball, to video games, to talking about Grenier’s Rickrolling. SCW has actually managed to create a damn good environment and I can honestly say, we are developing into one of the top feds on the net, as I have yet to see everyone have all of the pieces we have consistently. But, with that said, there are two things that can make any poster into a shit-disturber: 1) They constantly belittle or make derogatory comments, whether joking or not, it is taken as an insult. 2) They cause the OOC board to become a place where people are afraid to post. Miller, Hunter and Speed hit both things. And it’s number 2 that I am most concerned about. Because while people are quick to attack others for their egos, whether they actually come in play or not, they rarely look at themselves. Remember what I said earlier. That’s a reason why I am very touchy when it comes to the subject of dispensing criticism on the boards (concerning roleplays for example) without the person directly asking for it. Many people cannot deal with it well and furthermore, fewer people can tell between criticism and an insult. I’ll help: Insult – a comment directed at an individual or group with the purpose of being derogatory. Criticism – a comment directed at an individual or group with the purpose of aiding or helping the individual. Unfortunately, still the line is thin. And most people can’t tell the difference. All I can ask if that people read this, noting that I’m not trying to point fingers, I’m not trying to name names. I’m trying to prevent the OOC atmosphere in SCW from going downhill from people doing things they don’t realize they are doing. I have no problem with people defending people. But I have a problem with people labeling people as things that they clearly are not. We have no consistent problems OOC, except maybe this one and it is something that is not one specific person or group, but something that most of us are likely guilty in someway or another. It’s just a manner of controlling it. This is one of the reasons I tell people not to get involved, whether it involves you or not. Why? Because in the end, I’ll decide what it is taken as and I’m one of the moderators around here. And then it can be dealt with in an appropriate manner to the situation. If it’s a joke, we go from there. If it’s an insult, if it’s just a mis-written post, it will be taken as such. If it’s a consistent problem, it will be dealt with as such. |
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| Shyne | Jul 12 2008, 12:43 PM Post #2 |
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EGOS?! I used to eat them for breakfast! Oh Wait...that was Eggos. :CTface: |
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| James Exeter | Jul 12 2008, 12:58 PM Post #3 |
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Great post, Olek. A lot of people can learn from it. |
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| Shorty Jr. | Jul 12 2008, 01:01 PM Post #4 |
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Eggos > Other non-IHOP breakfast meals and yagr... guess we can all learn from Olek's post<_< still hat jey golt like a fox! I still wonder how Silkk vs. Shorty Jr. became a fatal fourway
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| Team Desire | Jul 12 2008, 01:05 PM Post #5 |
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Katie: Hmmmm? |
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| Greg Cherry | Jul 12 2008, 02:38 PM Post #6 |
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Thankfully. Good post, Olek. (Although you should've made it a Cynical View )
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| Team Desire | Jul 12 2008, 02:52 PM Post #7 |
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Then a Mod should change the title of this thread Cynical View "Egos" |
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| The Princes of the Universe | Jul 12 2008, 04:38 PM Post #8 |
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Aren't Cynical Views usually regarding IC issues? :CTface: |
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| Sean | Jul 12 2008, 05:00 PM Post #9 |
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I know some of that post moraly was about what I said to Reckless. I can admit that I reacted the wrong way for no reason whatsoever. That post was more of me pointing something out. I wasn't really trying to trash him. Reckless knows that I got no problem with him, and I know he has no problem with me. So, this is me just saying sorry to Reckless, and sorry to Olek. I promise this will not happen again, well I'll try to not let something like this happen again.
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| Shyne | Jul 12 2008, 07:02 PM Post #10 |
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I agree, it was a great post by Olek on a serious note P.S. Leggo' My Eggo! :CTface: |
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| Konvict | Jul 13 2008, 06:09 AM Post #11 |
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He's lying. Fire him. On a side note...I left the first time because I didn't like all of the OOC bullshit that I would have had to deal with going from Majestic to SCW...things are alot better now. Hold on, let me stress that..: Things are ALOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! better now. There ya go. |
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| Shyne | Jul 13 2008, 10:00 AM Post #12 |
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Shut up JC...you're just excited that your milkshake now brings all the boys to the yard.... :CTface: |
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| Grenier Grinder | Jul 13 2008, 10:16 AM Post #13 |
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Thanks to Davis for clarifying, because I had no idea what this post was referring to. |
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| Konvict | Jul 13 2008, 01:04 PM Post #14 |
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It's good milkshake... |
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| fullMETAL | Jul 14 2008, 12:25 PM Post #15 |
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Davis: I didn't really think to much of taking issue with your response because you actually took the time to respond yourself to my comment (which, yes, WAS a joke, and eventually everybody realized it), instead of just being content to hide behind Shorty Jr. (which I already addressed in a single sentence on that thread). Big respect points for stepping up yourself without any quick-tempered insults. Olek: Thank you for clearing things up (hopefully) and helping to get people (who might still have not been sure) realize that I was in fact just joking around. It's amazing how a few people (the ones you mentioned) could make EVERYBODY go on edge for the littlest thing these days (like our Republican government. ZING!)... And again--I was only joking around with Davis. Thank you. ...and by the way, I'm the best and most accurate speller in the entire EWniverse and Channel 101. Bar none. (OH NOES! It started a SPELLING WAR!!!11onetwozero) |
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guess we can all learn from Olek's post
like a fox!
I still wonder how Silkk vs. Shorty Jr. became a fatal fourway


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7:08 PM Jul 10