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| Some Changes to SCW for my Sanity | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 15 2017, 11:56 PM (424 Views) | |
| Mr. D | Jan 15 2017, 11:56 PM Post #1 |
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The SCW Owner and Leader of the Nation of Moderation
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When reviewing the last couple of weeks, and also considering some of the last couple of months, I have elected that I need to make some changes to deal with both the limitations in terms of the help I can get and also to allow me to continue to run SCW long-term. It should be no secret that I have a lot of work outside of the fed and the fed itself, especially since I do quite a bit myself, is another significant task. The problem is that in order to do this I need to both manage expectations and also manage a roster that is quite simply getting too large. The problem is that the two easiest solutions to the problem, an additional weekly show (such as the old Sunday Night Aggression) or a brand extension, are not feasible, when I struggle to get regular help for shows. To be clear, I appreciate all of the help I do get when I get it, but when, for example, with Shot of Adrenaline, we have 12 or more matches a card and I can barely find enough help to take half of that on a regular basis, I cannot even consider those options. Therefore, I’ve left to have to change my approach to some idea and simplify it. I already have started to go this route, but frankly, poor decisionmaking on my part regarding the Trios Tournament contracts, just to name one example, have led to the first two shows of this year being, to be blunt, awful. They’re chaotic messes, even with my feeling some of the individual segments have been strong. Things haven’t clicked. Even now, I am looking at the Hazardous Envy card and the remaining matches I need to announce and the card is already a ridiculous length. Therefore, I am going to be clear in how things will be changing. First off, I am not going to try and book everyone on every pay per views. Some people may just not be booked. It won’t mean they won’t be in an angle or that I have nothing for them. But frankly, I need to listen more to one of my personal preferences in booking – if everyone is in an angle, no one is, as then angles are meaningless. This will mean that not everyone may be in a programme that leads to an explicit match. It may be something more like Kennedy Street’s redemption, for example, or the growing war between PUNK HAZARD and many individual people on the roster. The problem is that I know some people will read into things. They’ll see their lack of being booked as indicative of something that just may not be true. As part of this shift, this means that some people may have more subtle angles, built more through the matches themselves instead of needing to figure out a cool segment for everyone. This, in particular, is something I figure some people may take issue with. Without naming names, I already have discussions with some people who are unhappy if they don’t feel their segment is creative enough or some enormously memorable angle every week. I’ve even had some people complain they are not in multiple segments on the show. Simply put, if this will bother you, please leave now. I will use the next two weeks to figure things out in writing out your character. SCW does not need that attitude. I will promise you that I will do my best to provide everyone with something they can use. That is all I am willing to promise, for my sanity. The ultimate goal here will be to create manageable cards that allow me to not only finish my workload for them on time, regularly (as for the last two Breakdowns, I had completed everything I had tasked for myself Wednesday evening. My needing to take on additional matches last minute or wait for other writers is what held it up.). I want to get pay per views up earlier. I want to just get back to where the majority of output from SCW on my end is timely. This not only allows me to take necessary breaks to recharge, but it allows you more time to roleplay. Unfortunately, again, part of this is handicapped by the lack of consistent help where I know, without fail, five matches (or whatever number) will be taken and submitted in a timely fashion every show. I want to cap pay per views at 10 matches to avoid them being these marathons, but also to allow me to actually potentially judge one night and complete the show by Monday night at the latest. Furthermore, because my actual career requires so much time in front of a computer, I’d like to avoid doing that more than I need to and the problem is that I’ve been running on fumes for the better part of three months now. I cannot keep this going. I have some booking ideas to allow me to do that. I will still need help and I will be looking to change things with the website so I do not need to also deal with all of the updates as well. I will also need some people to change their attitudes simply put. I understand the time and effort you put into the character. The problem is that I’ve developed two reputations over the years – I will always give feedback and I will discuss things as I can. Some people who used to talk to me more often have probably realized I’m harder to get a hold of at times now and sometimes I just forget to respond – this is largely a function of the fact that I need to step away to deal with other things and just forget. In other cases, I don’t have time to get into a discussion or, more appropriately, an argument. Some people really need to understand that sometimes you just lost. Sometimes your opponent did better than you. I know that’s hard for some people’s egos to understand, but it would be a great service to me if people stopped demanding copious feedback (or more importantly stopped looking for validation every week) every time they have a loss. This is not to say that if people really firmly thought they won, they can’t ask for clarification. This is not to cover those who ask for feedback every couple of months or realize they’ve lost a few matches in a row and just want to make sure they’re not stumbling too hard. That’s all fair game. But I have a list of handlers that when I judge their matches, I have my rationale written down ready for them because I know every loss, they’re going to come to me. It’s frustrating as that takes time as well. I’d love to stop caring, but that’s not how I’m wired. Finally, there is the biggest change. I’ve gone back and forth about it but I have to do it some way. I don’t want to put a roster freeze in place. I know of some new people who do want to give SCW a shot. I want to give them the opportunity. But at the same time, I look at this roster and its continuing to grow and from within – handlers who already have SCW as their home are wanting to bring in another character. To be honest, that’s a great compliment to me as I have to be doing something right if you want to add to your involvement here. But at the same time, it adds a number of other complications. I have to make sure I don’t overbook you. I have to make sure I have something for that character. More importantly, it’s something else I have to manage. Now, at this point, I’m not going to say people have to pull characters. That’s not the case. But I am going to start enforcing a hard two character cap. Anyone who is currently in SCW is grandfathered though. But new characters, unless it is for a strict one off, I will simply ignore their applications. I have to, again, for my own sanity, and also to allow SCW some flexibility to continue to build to its core. We have an amazing core. But I always like having new handlers over new characters. Life happens and it can cause people to need to step away from the game. I also know, looking at the majority of the core, like myself, we are getting older and have other commitments. I would rather keep having more people enjoy this fed and giving them a fair shot, allowing all of you to know that you don’t HAVE to stay if life tells you need to focus on something else. Long story short, I hope this makes some sense. This is a bit of a sleep-deprived note as I have been trying to get a good chunk of my last chapter for my thesis done this weekend – this is part of the reason I’ve been less accessible this weekend. But I need to start making changes. From the attitudes of some players to the realization that I need to make certain changes to how I approach shows and booking just to allow me any opportunity to avoid having whole weeks thrown into chaos because a show is late, to the fact that I have lot on my plate outside of the fed and I need to make sure I do what it best for me. To put this another way, if I don’t include Christmas parties or date nights with my girlfriend or time where I’m driving to campus for an on-campus talk or a meeting, I have spend virtually the rest of my time in the last two months in front of his computer, working on shows, the fed, my research, and a couple of other projects. I need a break. There will also be some other changes going forward. I will be making some changes to the Trios Tournament. Best of the Best Tournament will not be happening again and the Shot of Adrenaline Tournament, tentatively, may not either because of the fact that they are just too taxing to do with the resources and time I have. I will not also hide this fact – I always ask myself after every Rise to Greatness if the next one will be my last. I ask myself again at the start of January to see where I stand. This is the first time where frankly, I didn’t even know if I could make it to Rise to Greatness. Now I’m going to damn sure try and I also hope that I keep going well beyond that. I still do enjoy what I do more often than not. I want to provide the avenue for many of you to enjoy this game and I hope that you enjoy what I am able to do in SCW. But I need to make changes and this is just the start of it. I’m sorry again if something is unclear – unlike my actual work, I don’t have time to read it over to edit and revise and sleep deprivation is a bitch. But feel free to ask questions and I will do my best to clarify. |
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| DavidHelms | Jan 16 2017, 05:08 AM Post #2 |
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There's some stuff in here that I've been telling you for a couple of years now; you shouldn't bend over backwards to get everybody booked on a pay per view, you shouldn't bust your ass to give every single character something at every single show. At this point, SCW is more generous with storylines on a regular basis than real feds like WWE are, because we DON'T get the next instalment of every story on every Raw or Smackdown, and SCW has a fucking huge roster so how can you cram all that in without either giving yourself a major headache or sacrificing quality on things to cram more in? I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for me and I wouldn't be worried/offended/angry if a show passed without a character of mine on it, I wouldn't panic if I wasn't on a pay per view or didn't have a big angle. Hell, I had months at one point with Helms where I didn't have an actual storyline but a series of matches and you had to apologise to me for it before I even realised that was the case! It's a game at the end of the day, we're here to have fun and that includes YOU too. If it becomes too much work, the fun stops. It's that simple. Anyone who gets pissed off with any of the changes you're wanting to make should probably not be in the game in the first place because they've lost sight of the fact it IS a game. Do what you need to do, it's that simple dude. |
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| The Voice | Jan 16 2017, 10:16 AM Post #3 |
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I don't post a lot here OOC wise, but I completely agree. Personally, I know when I ask, the rationale and feedback usually makes sense. And there's always that great deal of care. I found what you said about the core getting older and I realized how right you are. Olek, simply put, everything you are changing is perfectly acceptable. I for one have had multiple shows where my characters don't show up or just have the smallest segment. I think I asked you about it once years and years ago. You explained it and I haven't doubted you since about it. Not gonna start now. Please do what you need to do to make this more manageable. If you need, i know most of us will happily accommodate with whatever you require. |
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| Dazz | Jan 16 2017, 12:06 PM Post #4 |
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Pretty much sums up what I was going to say. I'll also say that the reason I respect Olek so much is because creatively and as fed heads, we're on the same page, which is why he's genuinely the only fed head I've ever truly clicked with in that regard because we look at booking and judging in the exact same way and we're also lenient but can be stubborn to the kind of things that other fed heads unfortunately find themselves falling to in terms of bowing under pressure to give some people more of a chance than they'd perhaps give others. That's pretty much why I feel your pain, Olek, after pretty much 14 years running feds, big and small, and going through these exact same thoughts at times. You want to get as many people booked for a show as possible but at the same time, you'd rather tell stories that hopefully everyone can enjoy rather than just throwing as many people as possible onto a card for the hell of it to spare some egos. It's also why I feel awful because me entering Eli in the tournament was a way to try to end things on a high under your management as far as my RPing goes, as well as give back after I lost focus after the BOTB break last year and just couldn't find my groove again. Now, obviously with my passion for this game pretty much as low as yours is, I just haven't found it in me to follow up on that promise. You could probably tell when I told yourself, Rachel and Doug about my plan for two CDs and a promo in my opening SoA match to explain the story (Epico Failo being attacked in the street after a C:NG show in December by two members of D'Angelo's cult, which I was hoping to follow up on in C:NG with the D'Angelo Family vs C.U.N.T. as well as RPing as Eli in SCW) and then never got started on the RP against Shilo until the day before deadline. That pretty much knocked my confidence and made me realise that mentally at least, I've moved on from a game that's saved my life a few times. I mean, shit, just over a decade ago, I was finding it difficult to sit, stand, lie down or move in general while undergoing tests for testicular cancer and still managed to be at the computer every day after work for 10 hours, RPing for one fed and running my own and only getting 3 hours sleep per day for shows that went up weekly. Now, I can't even write one every fortnight? Anyway, my sincerest apologies, Olek, I guess seeing this thread on the off-chance (being on this board right now is spur of the moment, I never planned to come back even to browse the results after my RP against Shilo went up).....I guess this is my way of saying sorry for the no-show, to both you and to Kara's handler, I also apologise in advance to Ash, G and the handlers of Tucker and Jinn because I'll be no-showing again. My heart's not in it or I'd have offered to help with the results instead. Anyway, hope things work out and since I was hoping to go all the way to the finals against Doug and that's clearly not happening now, if this place does eventually close and you want another match with me, man, hit me up and we can go one last time. Hope you find the help you need, Olek. |
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| Stacy Kissinger | Jan 16 2017, 06:50 PM Post #5 |
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Olek, you already know my take as we talked about it years ago when we spoke about the idea of having a secondary show that only had 4-5 matches on it, that would focus on the lower storylines in SCW. Unfortunately that idea didn't last very long as soon that secondary show was sometimes longer than Breakdown and would have a lot of the main-eventers and upper-carders having 4-5 segments a show, even if they weren't booked in a match for the show to begin with, which wasn't the point. The point was to have 2-3 writers for that secondary show that were NOT YOU, and that you'd just review it and post it. Do what you have to do Olek. I'll write matches when I have the time to, but it's not going to be every show. I just don't have the time/energy to be staying up until past midnight as much anymore.
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| James Evans | Jan 16 2017, 07:50 PM Post #6 |
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I'll Probably Quit Soon
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With the idea of a second, smaller scale show, couldn't it be geared towards low to mid card storylines? Have it be a smaller show in terms of length, something like NXT? I agree the roster has grown to a massive beast in of itself, where you could have like four shows a week. We are all getting older, some of our jobs take more of our time and it is hard to manage that with a personal life away from the computer. It's one of the reasons I've had to step away from role-playing. But the changes you're talking about Olek seem promising right now. You know what you can handle, even though you've been known to take on more than you should. I'd say, even though I'm sure you'd hate doing so, to just summarize some matches, hit the points that would move a storyline forward. I'm just rambling though. |
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| Stacy Kissinger | Jan 17 2017, 12:13 AM Post #7 |
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Jeez Josh you buttnugget, didn't you JUST read what I posted? :angry: It'd go fine for a few months and then turn into NOT THAT and a show that's longer than Breakdown. Glad to see you on the board though, ass munch.
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| Ace | Jan 17 2017, 12:57 AM Post #8 |
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The point is less, not more. With a roster of over 60 characters and personalities, the page cap was introduced as a way to at least not go insane from the overload. Expecting every character to get something big out of it is ridiculous. People complaining about needing more aren't really considering the issues. There are just too many people at this stage. The only logical conclusion is just as he has posted in the original post. Less is more. Make the most of what you get. Don't feel singled out. Frankly, I think this can only benefit the shows quality wise as most feuds tend to get watered down from often mirroring others and feeling like they're being forced in. If you absolutely need to be a focus or be in multiple segments, you're either looking to be pampered or you're just not that creative. Move on. The longevity of the fed means far more and the moment it's too much for Olek or isn't fun for him, well, that's probably it then. For everyone here. It's a game. An obsession, some sort of sick and twisted coping mechanism or whatever people want to make of it too but still a game.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| James Evans | Jan 17 2017, 07:14 AM Post #9 |
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Dear Lord you've become such an ass kissing suck up. But I agree. |
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| XdpK | Jan 17 2017, 02:10 PM Post #10 |
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agreed with you not everyones gonna have a huge fued and not every fued is going to be great with a roster this size |
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