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TNA TV Deal
Topic Started: May 26 2005, 10:31 PM (447 Views)
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This is From BetweenTheRopes.com's message board:

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Sources have confirmed to Between The Ropes the following details on TNA Wrestling's television future.

This Tuesday's TNA Impact tapings on May 31 at Universal Orlando are cancelled. With the Fox Sports Net deal expiring this weekend, television will go dark temporarily.

As we've speculated all week, TNA will begin on Monday nights in prime time on WGN from 8:00pm - 10:00pm ET. The start date on WGN will be the day after Slammiversary - Monday, June 20.

The WGN show will air live every other week on Monday's from Universal Orlando. Shows will be taped on Tuesday's to then air the following week. The first live show will be Monday, June 20 with a taping on June 21 to air on Monday, June 27 on WGN.

TNA should make an official announcement imminently.
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In my humble opinion, I think this practically marks the start line for TNA's fall.

And here's a prediction. Unless a drastic change happens, next year by this time, TNA will be history already.

Why? It's simple.

TNA is a growing product, which is on it's baby stage. They have a few promising stars (Styles, Daniels, Brown, Shane, Sabin, etc.) and some characteristics that separates them from the bunch (hexagonal ring, tunnel entrances, some match stipulations).

But, they still are not good enough to compete with the WWE. They're not even close to the WWE high standards, and much less against their flag ship show RAW.

The WGN time slot is going to be their poison, rather than their chance to get known better. Wrestling fans are not going to miss RAW to watch a wrestling show that it's nothing compared to it, and this is coming from a TNA enthusiast. Plus I don't get WGN on Dish Network (it's only seen on Direct TV here in PR).

In my case, I'll keep watching the PPVs first because I get them free and second because I'll read the shows on pwtorch, but the regular wrestling fan will stop buying the PPVs after not keeping up with the shows anymore on free TV.

The only way TNA is going to survive this is if WGN (after seeing Impact! is not getting any ratings thanks to RAW) decides to change the show to other day like Tuesday or Wednesday.
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everyone thought it was suicide when Nitro first went up against raw as well

the real wrestling fans will watch one and tape the other

but it should be interesting to see how this pans out
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Soutter
May 27 2005, 03:38 AM
everyone thought it was suicide when Nitro first went up against raw as well

the real wrestling fans will watch one and tape the other

but it should be interesting to see how this pans out

Yeah I dont know how Im gonna fit Nitro into my schedule now....


Oh wait thats right.


It was suicide, oh it took awhile, but in the end there wasn't room for both and the better product won out. Watching one and taping another is a good idea, but the ratings for one will still be down.

And keep in mind when WCW got squashed in the same time slot as the one TAN's getting they were already a national program that everyone knew about, and that even had a bigger viewing audience that the WWE for awhile. And some would say with bigger stars than the WWE in some cases...

And a bottomless wallett backing them in Ted Turner.


All of those are things TNA is nowhere close to having. So how are they supposed to really compete when WCW couldn't in the same time slot, on a better station?

Exactly...


This isnt the Monday Night Wars II....


This is gonna be the Monday Night beat down..... I give TNA a year and a half to live if they dont switch nights.
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I just hope that they will be able to compete with the big dawgs I don't see The WWE losing twice to another fed.
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If they want to compete with the WWE they can't get in their way. They can't have shows when RAW or Smackdown! is on and they can't have shows when the WWE is having a PPV on a Sunday.
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Hmm, low I hate to tell you this, as you should know, the only reason that wcw is still not in buisness was due to the merger of aol and time warner. This pushed Ted out of power, Which he has gained back. Those that were in power no longer wanted to have wcw on their bankroll so they decided to sell it. They had a buyer then the last minute they pulled tv away from them as well. This is why Vince and company won, not becuase they were the superior product. Some 6 million fans that used to watch wcw (Before the Russo years) can tell you that much.
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1800YOULOSE
May 27 2005, 11:22 PM
Hmm, low I hate to tell you this, as you should know, the only reason that wcw is still not in buisness was due to the merger of aol and time warner. This pushed Ted out of power, Which he has gained back. Those that were in power no longer wanted to have wcw on their bankroll so they decided to sell it. They had a buyer then the last minute they pulled tv away from them as well. This is why Vince and company won, not becuase they were the superior product. Some 6 million fans that used to watch wcw (Before the Russo years) can tell you that much.

I do know that...

I also know that in Vince had this great idea to keep it going as a seperate brand at the begining, except that he couldn't get TV with the WCW brand name, because it's value had decreased sooo much from a couple years of desperate moves trying to catch up to the WWE...

Desperate moves generally dont need to be made by companies that are doing well. Fact is AOL/Time Warner was the nail in the coffin, but had Turner not been such a wrestling mark and owned his own set of TV stations odds are the "death" would've happened even sooner... Cause at that time the WWE had, by far, the better product. Once the NWO hit version 157, it was all down hill... WCW blew their wad on the NWO and had nothing left once that ended...

Now fast foward... Panda Energy has been very calm while losing buckets of money on TNA... Because it's their new "toy" of sorts, but what happens when it's not the new toy anymore? They'll become less, and less patient with all the money lost. And please dont bring that bullshit "they'll use it as a write off" arguement the kids at PW.Com are using Bear, cause companies that lose money for too long go out of business... Thats how it works... The write off may keep Panda from going under with TNA, but it wont stop TNA from going belly up...
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THE KLIQ IS BACK PERIOD!!

So the bottom line is this do you all think TNA will be able to make it ????
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bruno3997
May 28 2005, 06:03 AM
So the bottom line is this do you all think TNA will be able to make it ????

2 Years tops....


Thats a prediction. They have shabby booking, the production qualities of a third grader with a hand held camera, and the only two "main event" guys they have that they dont have to worry about leaving are Jarrett who never would've been main event anywhere if all WCW's real main event guys hadn't left... And AJ Styles who is ok in the X Division, but who makes Jeff Hardy look like Kane.

And this is the show thats gonna oppose RAW?


Riiiight....


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Hopefully they will get better as time goes by and hopefully give The WWE a run for their money. I'm a huge TNA fan and I would hate to see them fail.
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i'm a huge fan as well bruno

you guys are getting ahead of yourselves with all this compete with wwe stuff

that is wayyyy down the line

for right now with the new show ... all they would be thinking is getting more ratings then they did with impact

and take it from there

so lets see how that goes

because to me .... if the show is getting more ratings then they had with impact .... then the ppv buys will go up ... irrelevant of raw's ratings

and lets face it .... their worst ppv this year was twice as good as wwe's best (mania aside)
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May 28 2005, 07:42 PM


you guys are getting ahead of yourselves with all this compete with wwe stuff

that is wayyyy down the line

I dont think it is... I think TNA is along way from being able to compete, but the minute they got that time slot they got from WGN they were instantly thrust into competition... Whether they like it or not... How do you "not compete" with someone when at least an hour of your show overlaps theirs and you're in the same business?

Are they ready to compete? Not even close, are they competeing? Whether they like it or not yes they are.
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the point is

if they get more ratings in the new slot ... then they were with impact ... they are better off ... regardless of what else is on at the same time
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Let's just hope that WGN will realize their mistake in giving TNA that Monday night time slot and will change it to Tuesday or Wednesday, or if they want it to be on Mondays so badly, to let it be 7-9pm EST.

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Plus I don't get WGN on Dish Network (it's only seen on Direct TV here in PR).


I checked and I have WGN lol. That should be a sign of how important the network is; I had it all the time and I didn't even know till now.

About TNA's main eventers, I think that Styles, Brown and Daniels are enough good to cut it. Of course, all of them need practice in the stick and being showcased as superstars, but now with the two hours of show they can do it. Michael Shane, Petey Williams, Bobby Roode, Chris Sabin, Chris Harris, Sonny Siaki and maybe Lance Hoyt can be nice mid-carders, and with a lot of work, maybe even main eventers in a distant future.

I insist they must get rid of Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Dusty and Dustin. Jarrett has HHH's egocentrism, but without the talent. Nash is too expensive for what he's worth these days. Dusty is damn old, not cool like Flair, can't wrestle like Flair and he gives TNA this southern bad appearance, which is negative for the product. Dustin, he reminds me of Dusty. If they get rid of them, we'll have a filtered product, which will be nice and clean.
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