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Vengeance predictions
Topic Started: Jun 24 2005, 08:12 PM (277 Views)
Menace
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Menace to Society

whats the thoughts guys?

im tipping Batista in the hell in a cell

not sure whats going to happen in Angle / HBK (which are the matches i most look forward to when i dont have a clue whats going to happen)

Cena over Jericho and Christian

Kane over Edge hopefully (i really couldn't give a stuff if Edge is sleeping with Lita ... but that wedding was a farce ... and the most cringeworthy stuff i have seen since i can remember ... after raw i wouldnt be suprised to see Matt Hardy do the run in in this one)

Carlito to retain the ic strap in i guess a rematch with Shelton



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I ~ Seven
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Batista vs. Triple H
- Batista

John Cena vs. Christian vs. Jericho
- John Cena

Edge vs. Kane
- Kane

Christy vs. Victoria
- Christy

Carlito vs. Benjamin
- Carlito

HBK vs. Angle
- Angle
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I ~ Lee
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The New Axis

Batista vs. Triple H
I would like to see Tista win it but i don't see HHH loosing to be honest

John Cena vs. Christian vs. Jericho
Again with the match above i hope either Jericho or Christain win but i don't see Cena loosing his first Raw PPV

Edge vs. Kane
I really do hope Kane wins for the shake of him and his character. If Edge gets pushed anymore then he already has then he should be shot.

Christy vs. Victoria
Erm Victoria should win but i think we know she's gonna job to Christy

Carlito vs. Benjamin
Carlito

HBK vs. Angle
Could go either but i'm saying HBK. But if there gonna keep this feud going it mite go to Angle.
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All I have to say is that if HHH wins I will be very upset. :D
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Soutter
Jun 25 2005, 12:12 AM
whats the thoughts guys?

im tipping Batista in the hell in a cell

not sure whats going to happen in Angle / HBK (which are the matches i most look forward to when i dont have a clue whats going to happen)

Cena over Jericho and Christian

Kane over Edge hopefully (i really couldn't give a stuff if Edge is sleeping with Lita ... but that wedding was a farce ... and the most cringeworthy stuff i have seen since i can remember ... after raw i wouldnt be suprised to see Matt Hardy do the run in in this one)

Carlito to retain the ic strap in i guess a rematch with Shelton

YOu'd think by now that they'd know that ANY wedding on a wrestling show is both angle and reality wise a very very bad idea.

Though I was kinda hoping they'd go through with the whole gay marrage thing just to piss off the fundies...
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just watched it

what a great show

loved it!

the hell in the cell ruled ..... and HHH was at his best in that one!

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^^ Yeah eventhough Triple H is very bulkier than he use to be and cant do all the stuff that he use to be able to do he proved on hell in a cell against Batista he can still put on a super match and proved why he was given a big push in 1999.

:D but I still think they should keep the title away from him for like months.
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lets look at what he has done ... just of the top of my head the last 15 months or so

Tapped out to Benoit at Wrestlemania 20!

-lost to Benoit again at the backlash rematch (even if HBK tapped this time .. he still lost as well)

-put Shelton Benjamin over his first night on Raw ... and for a month after that

-Put Randy Orton over ... in a nice fued ... and we saw what happened to Orton once that was finished and HHH was no longer carrying him

-then for 6 months made Batista the hottest man in the business ... simply by implying he feared him

-then taps out to Benoit again in the first round of the gold rush tourney

-plus losing to Batista THREE straight times


boy ... he really holds down the world!


-paul
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^^ Yeah but have you ever thought about that he lost the title twice in just about 2 years to the guys on the RAW roster he liked and were in his stable? It was his idea to drop the title to both Batista and Orton.

I'll give HHH credit he is getting back to the way I like him because he has actually let someone hold the title for a few months rather than winning it again. I'm not tryen to dog on him because I do like HHH but winning the world title like 5 times in just 2-3 years is rediculous.
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Queering don't make the world work.....

I love how with HHH dominating the title it's backstage politics, but with a guy like Hogan it's being a legend.

Or with a guy like HBK it was being a legend.

Or even though he had the book down south for half his title reigns for a guy like Flair it was once again being a legend.


HHH fits the same description as all of them. He has some backstage influence obviously, however just like all of them he's easily the best option on screen to hold the title as well.

He gets guys over just by acting like he's afraid to face them, and then once these guys are over, thanks in large part to him. They blow the whole thing for themselves cause they cant take the ball and run with it. Orton has sunk, and Batista will soon. The tease of him turning on HHH got him over, but now that thats done, he'll start to shine through as being boring on the mic, and not much better in the ring.

Hell even I got into him at first, but now he's already worn out his welcome with me. Best thing they could do is turn him heel or something cause his face act wore off on me awhile ago.
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I think HHH does just enough jobbing to prevent a massive fan backlash. Virtually every fan expresses some level of frustration that HHH cannot take himself out of the title hunt at least for a while. He hasn't done so in over 3 years for any length of time, since his quad injury.

There is no question he is one of the best, if not THE best, wrestler in WWE. He does the right moves, says the right things. He is very good at everything, but not the best at anything. He also has this innate ability to seemingly prevent some other talent from developing into top-tier stars, and I'm sure Hunglow will argue this but...it has happened under his watch as top heel. I will be curious how he treats Kurt Angle, as I think he is a better heel than Triple H, and twice as good a wrestler. Angle has promo skills that are on par with HHH, though I seriously doubt he will be the #1 heel on RAW, unless Tripps turns face first.

Fans need variety. Triple H has stayed on for a number of years, and the result has been mixed against guys he has feuded with. For every flop like Orton, Batista, and Goldberg, we've had some potentially good champs (Benoit, Jericho, Benjamin, Jeff Hardy) get swept under before they really can get a big push. But until he at least attempts to get out of the top heel spot for a while, we will never be able to fully assess his value because people resent his reluctance to get out of the top spot.

And when HHH retires, there is no doubt in my mind people will regard him as a legend.
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Hunglow
Jun 30 2005, 04:22 PM
I love how with HHH dominating the title it's backstage politics, but with a guy like Hogan it's being a legend.

Or with a guy like HBK it was being a legend.

Or even though he had the book down south for half his title reigns for a guy like Flair it was once again being a legend.


HHH fits the same description as all of them. He has some backstage influence obviously, however just like all of them he's easily the best option on screen to hold the title as well.

He gets guys over just by acting like he's afraid to face them, and then once these guys are over, thanks in large part to him. They blow the whole thing for themselves cause they cant take the ball and run with it. Orton has sunk, and Batista will soon. The tease of him turning on HHH got him over, but now that thats done, he'll start to shine through as being boring on the mic, and not much better in the ring.

Hell even I got into him at first, but now he's already worn out his welcome with me. Best thing they could do is turn him heel or something cause his face act wore off on me awhile ago.

Okay now I'm just giving my opinion and again I like HHH as much as the next guy for what he can do and all of that. But Hogan did it because he was the first really really big wrestling star. I mean no one accept for maybe the Rock and Stone Cold can match a reaction like what he got in the 80s. I dont care what people say Hogan may of not wrestled very good, but he had good showmanship and will go down in history as the most popular wrestler ever. As for Flair he did not win the title 10 times in just 7 years like HHH. It took him about a span of 25 years to win 16 and I do not blame him for winning it a lot in WCW because he had payed his dues, can wrestle, and has good showmanship. As for HBK I must agree he did hold down some guys but the fact is he was the hottest star in the late 90s. Just think about it befor Rock came and Stone Cold got hot there was really no one else besides the Undertaker that could carry the load. But HHH is doing it now in a way where he is using his power and every one knows it. The differance is that they are shoveing him down everyones throat every week. I mean how long has it been since he has not been the top guy on RAW? Really ever since the roster split he has.

Think about this guys. What if when Vince who will give up the company to Shane and Stephanie and HHH in about 5 to 10 years. If what HHH and Stephanie do not have is true love and they eventually end up getting a divorce HHH will get some of the share of WWE. And that will just really fuck the WWE up real bad. Now I think HHH can unwrong what he has done. I cant say I blame him for wanting to be the top guy but when everyone can see that he is doing it and trashing him for it(<example are basically everyone that was in DX- BG James, Billy Gunn(mostly) and Sean Waltman are not all on good terms with him right now.) that is where he needs to slow down.
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