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Reaction to Owen CUp
Topic Started: Nov 9 2009, 11:01 AM (1,110 Views)
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Sorry it sound like when Packer is sticking feathers in my head when are doing my job and more.
Don,t think I,m jealous guys why would I my characters are a bit differt then Frostbite and American Freebear.
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hopper
Nov 10 2009, 01:05 AM

Freebear has "no sold" things that should have affected him before. A certain post match hand shake, for instance, was totally ignored....and that is just the most glaring.

Calling hearsay and bullshit.

I was all ready to go through the archives to look at when I'd have no-sold anything, which judging by what Nash refers to would have to happen post-Battlegrounds/during the Spring Break event; except that there are no surviving archives of the promo thread anywhere.

You didn't read nothin'. Dare you to point out where you'd have read the Spring Break promo thread. I don't usually do "angry promos" unless there's something I'm actually angry at to begin with. That's why I'm angry that you'd spread rumors about me when you litteraly have nothing to go by.
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I read the shows, I'm not stupid... there was a post match hug/handshake at the Ernie Hamilton all for you to no sell it in the following event.
Edited by Nash, Nov 10 2009, 09:12 PM.
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Be honest, was this when you said I was totally overrated as an RPer at Shane's board? That might've explained things a teensy bit.
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Yes... I was being honest by that. I think the Freebear gimmick has run it's course because he tends to repeat himself. There hasn't been much explanation/character development as to why he acts that way.
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And yet I go wildly different directions at each promo, but that's your opinion.

Just don't expect a pat on the back when you're badmouthing me behind my back.
Edited by Christian, Nov 10 2009, 09:45 PM.
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OOC isn't the same as IC... IC I followed through with the plan and returned the respect... that's my point, that the character doesn't seem to follow through with plans at times.
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And to further be honest, you weren't quite all respect during the build-up to the match either, having your narrator of all people bash the Freebear when you were writing your promos, which makes the final handshake (written by the admins at the end of the match) seem more disingenuous then anything else.

Guess I reacted more to the man rather than the events, because the only time that you (Nash) show respect is when others are writing for you.
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I actually pitched that handshake because the char is about restoring honor to wrestling. Part of that is acknowledging his opponent's work ethic even if rival. Like he even shook Brian Kennedy and Blood Reign's hand even though they are his most heated rivals, to prove he appreciates effort.
Edited by Nash, Nov 10 2009, 09:59 PM.
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Then explain it better: you tacked on a handshake at the end of a messy feud where your narrator threw every insult in the book. I was supposed to believe that handshake was genuine, and that it came from you?

For all your accusation that I don't "evolve my character", your claims that you "restore honor to wrestling" remains superficial: token bare examples done to NPCs is the most that you show while you do two-faced bashing at other forums...

Listen: I obey kayfabe to the point that I'm nearly a slave to it. You pull out little token gestures that are out of character from what I've seen you write in your RPs and expect me to take 'em at face value. No matter which way you spin it, that's bullshit.
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All I will say is that I have read the promos from the Owen show and the shows themselves in mid-south.

But the no-sell of the handshake was told to me and since it has been shared with me by Eric, Packer and etc....I'll call it more than hearsay

SO again....just chill out kiddo.


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and being a "slave to kayfabe" is one thing....fully writing as though it is reality is not the same thing.

calling something kayfabe inherently means that there is more that can be told that most do not know. That would require the character evolve, grow and show more of that over time.

It is when you write something as fully and constantly the same where it is not a gimmick anymore....but who the character is. That makes the "character" less over time.
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Calling bullshit once more. Nash might hold a grudge but I doubt anyone else would've noticed, since it was litteraly that one thing amidst a sea of trash talk. One thing not even penned by Nash himself, just suggested to the admins that wrote it into the match in question. At least we've now established that you accuse people on hearsay, and not on what you know for yourself.

EDIT: "slave to kayfabe" means slave to the character as he shows himself to the "audience", it specifically rules out stuff which occurs outside of what is shown.
Edited by Christian, Nov 10 2009, 10:19 PM.
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Christian
Nov 10 2009, 10:16 PM
Calling bullshit once more. Nash might hold a grudge but I doubt anyone else would've noticed, since it was litteraly that one thing amidst a sea of trash talk. One thing not even penned by Nash himself, just suggested to the admins that wrote it into the match in question. At least we've now established that you accuse people on hearsay, and not on what you know for yourself.
Well since the two who told me are both region promoters here and I did READ the show in question to notice the handshake at first (yes, after I was told of the no-sell)....however considering the two people who discussed it with me....I had no reason but to consider it factual....much more factual than 80% of the BS you sling when you go into crybaby mode.


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Hey look, Chris Hopper is admiting that he accuses people on what he hears rather then what he knows; proving my point that he works on hearsay. He straight out admits to assume.

Wait, who slings BS now? It is you. Like I told you when I first posted, knock it off.
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