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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 8 2011, 10:38 PM (562 Views) | |
| Darkom | Jul 8 2011, 10:38 PM Post #1 |
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So, since most of us come from a distinctly Tes background, who else is excited for the release of Tes V: Skyrim? November 11th, 2011! 125 days, one hour, and twenty three minutes 'till release! I know most of you have probably been to the discussion board at BGSF, but what do you guys think so far? I'm really looking forward to the supposed new combat system myself, and the graphics look even better than Oblivion (though not as big a leap as Morrowind to Oblivion was ). Everyone else anxious to fight their first dragon?
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| JasonSage | Jul 8 2011, 11:50 PM Post #2 |
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I don't like that the game is "themed" around dragons so much. I guess there's a lot about the dragon hype that doesn't seem Elder-Scrolls-y to me, and I would be reassured if they were very much a part of the lore and the classic feel of an ES game. I guess I like the combat improvements and the graphics, although I never really had any problems with their counterparts in Oblivion. I would have liked better water in Oblivion, so I guess I got that. I'm probably most excited about the new and improved roleplaying elements of the game... getting married, interacting socially, talking to people... and also improvements to alchemy. If I understand correctly alchemy in Skyrim is going to be even more world-based and a lot less clicking through menus, so hopefully that will be more rewarding and have a physical component that Oblivion didn't have. Also, I'm so happy the menus have changed in the way that they have, but I'm apprehensive about the switch from a map to a 3d world... I almost think I'd rather opt in for a classic map like I had in Oblivion. And the music. Can't wait for the music. Oh! And the intro cinematic. Most epic moment evar. I'm waiting until dark to play for the first time. Maybe we should plan for an all-niter |
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| Vanir | Jul 9 2011, 01:17 AM Post #3 |
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The magic. That's all I need to say. Playing a pure mage will be so much more fun than in previous titles, with the spells' plasmid-like nature. Also, having three different ways to cast each spell is exciting. For instance, there's only so many ways you can use Telekinesis, so perhaps one of them will be a Force-push-esque deflection spell. The two-handed option, perhaps? One can dream. Combat's looking up, too, with the finishing moves and dual-wielding. And the theme. GOOD LORD the theme song! In short: I think I will enjoy this game almost as much as, if not more than, Morrowind. |
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| JasonSage | Jul 9 2011, 01:22 AM Post #4 |
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Magic looks improved, for sure. On a similar note, I'm somewhat worried that the dragon shouts give you a significant advantage in battle. They force warrior characters and stealth characters to factor in a magical component that further pushes battles in their favor, which detracts from the sense of balance and realism. Why can't we play a normal character? |
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| Vanir | Jul 9 2011, 01:25 AM Post #5 |
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Because you're Dragonborn, that's why. But, as with anything, if you don't want to use it, you can simply choose to ignore it. It's a roleplaying opportunity, if nothing else. Perhaps your character doesn't want the burden that comes with the title? I'm sure you can think of something. Besides, you can do some cool shit with the Shouts. Who wouldn't want to conjure up a storm at any minute? |
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| JasonSage | Jul 9 2011, 01:28 AM Post #6 |
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Storm call and slow time I like, but throwing fire? I'm not a fricking mage. And what if I am? Do I now have a fireball spell and shout? |
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| Vanir | Jul 9 2011, 01:30 AM Post #7 |
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Well, for the record, you're breathing it, not casting it. And I would assume that it would be effectively different from a fire spell, as well. No point in having both if they do the same thing. |
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| JasonSage | Jul 9 2011, 01:35 AM Post #8 |
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I neglected to make the distinguishment for the sake of this argument. I just don't like how the shouts impose a new gameplay mechanism and provide a power no other creature in the game has. I really don't like it. |
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| Vanir | Jul 9 2011, 01:37 AM Post #9 |
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Ah. Well then, it's just a lore kind of thing. One of the perks of being |
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| Ambrose51 | Jul 9 2011, 12:22 PM Post #10 |
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I'm rather apathetic about it, but then I'm not that huge of a TES fan to begin with. The magic does look awesome, but I also dislike the shouts, as Jason mentioned. Frankly, I just don't like the idea of Dragonborn period, or the fact that the game is centered around dragons. If the game can back it up and make it make sense with some decent explanations, then I'll have no issue with it, but until I have a physical copy and can play it, I'm remaining skeptical. Everyone had really high hopes for Oblivion and then did nothing but complain about it (On the Bethesda boards, anyway.), if you remember back to when it was released. Oblivion didn't exactly have some of the best storytelling around, opening aside, and I'm expecting much the same from Skyrim. |
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But mostly? The assorted plans at play here would be going very, very wrong due to the actions of a no-name, no-count, utterly talentless Magus by the name of Shirou Emiya. He had no magic worth mentioning, no combat experience of note, and no plan for or knowledge of the War he was about to enter. He did, however, have one trait that had derailed a countless number of such grand, far-reaching schemes throughout history. You see, he really, really wanted to be a hero. -(Best description of the start of a Fate novel ever.) | |
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| Vanir | Jul 9 2011, 12:31 PM Post #11 |
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It already has a decent explanation, though. Alduin is returning, so his servants are as well. His servants (the Jills) happen to take the form of a dragon. |
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| JasonSage | Jul 9 2011, 12:34 PM Post #12 |
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But how well is this integrated with the lore and the feel of the Elder Scrolls we're all familiar with? Bethesda could say they're introducing Zeus into the game but that doesn't mean it'll feel right. It has to have an authenticity about it that makes it one with the game and the series, but doesn't define it. Edited by JasonSage, Jul 9 2011, 12:35 PM.
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| Vanir | Jul 9 2011, 12:41 PM Post #13 |
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Well, it's happened before. It happens at the end of every kalpa. Alduin already exists lore-wise, so it's not nearly the same as adding in Zeus. |
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| Ambrose51 | Jul 9 2011, 01:08 PM Post #14 |
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The fact that there's lore behind it is nice, but in the end, it's just text. What's really going to matter to me is how the situation is presented in-game. |
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But mostly? The assorted plans at play here would be going very, very wrong due to the actions of a no-name, no-count, utterly talentless Magus by the name of Shirou Emiya. He had no magic worth mentioning, no combat experience of note, and no plan for or knowledge of the War he was about to enter. He did, however, have one trait that had derailed a countless number of such grand, far-reaching schemes throughout history. You see, he really, really wanted to be a hero. -(Best description of the start of a Fate novel ever.) | |
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| blademaster | Jul 9 2011, 09:48 PM Post #15 |
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Mmmm, I'm not even going into the Skyrim section anymore because I don't want to get my hopes up anymore (and the discussion there is borderline retarded, no offense intended to anyone here). Especially after seeing the E3 video. To paraphrase something I posted after seeing the video: Combat has not seemingly been "upgraded" like promised. It looks like it is all the Oblivion button mashing madness, now with the option to mash twice as much with dual-wield. I was not impressed by anything in that video tbh. Maybe people got my hopes to high with threads and screenshots beforehand but that video was a serious let-down. I refuse to read anymore into the game, and won't likely end up getting it until Christmas as an asked gift from someone. |
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| Darkom | Jul 11 2011, 02:35 PM Post #16 |
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Indeed, I'm actually trying to avoid all the hype. I'd rather be surprised after I install the game. I don't want to get my hopes up with new features only to be disappointed when I don't see them implemented. Of course, that's what mods are for. I'll probably download my first one about a week after getting the game.
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| Duke Smugleaf | Jul 12 2011, 12:30 PM Post #17 |
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That's only because of the limitations imposed in a video game. In something more player-driven, it is far more useful. In D&D, telekinesis is a fucking god-power. You can do anything with it. Once you get it, just replace all your spell slots with telekinesis, because you won't need anything else. OT: As someone who actually liked Oblivion despite its flaws and saw it as still being in the upper echelon, towering above almost every other RPG on the market, I know that I'll love Skyrim no matter what. Hell, whenever I see that trailer, I get the irresistible urge to smile from ear to ear. Even the trailer is orgasm-inducing. |
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| blademaster | Jul 13 2011, 01:23 AM Post #18 |
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I'm sure Skyrim will be good. But I can't help but roll my eyes when they promise a new and better combat system and the gameplay footage looked like yet another mash-fest. I wouldn't even care if they didn't try to sell it as god-made but they seem so proud of it and to me it looks like OB. |
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