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| Rock & Roll Hall of Fame; Dire Straits Induction 2018 | |
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| qjamesfloyd | Wednesday, 13. December 2017, 14:57 Post #61 |
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Yes, that award would be good for Mark Linda, but if you look at the list of songs for their DS mix tape, that on it's own is "Musical Excellence" :) That mix tape is just about as good as it gets for DS, I would add Once Upon A Time In The West, Love Over Gold, Twisting By The Pool, and You And Your Friend to that list :rockon: |
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| 3Strats | Wednesday, 13. December 2017, 18:41 Post #62 |
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I think it's very unlikely that the original line up will re-form. there is a thread on AMIT with an excerpt from Alan Clark's facebook thread, in which he, David K & Danny C said it wouldn't happen. I don't know if Mark, John, Pick & (maybe Richard) would do it. |
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| Stanko | Wednesday, 13. December 2017, 18:55 Post #63 |
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Nothing to add except to join with you in congrats (and to add few more songs on your list James!). For me, DS has already got that award Linda! it is only about whether it would become official or not... :P |
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| qjamesfloyd | Thursday, 14. December 2017, 09:43 Post #64 |
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It seems both John Illsley and Alan Clark would be up for a reunion, I am sure Guy would be ok, so it is really down to Mark and David and Pick I think. Stranger things have happened, just look at the Pink Floyd reunion for Live 8 in 2005!! no-one would have thought Roger Waters and David Gilmour would share a stage together again, but they did, and their fall out was much worse than Mark and David!! |
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| qjamesfloyd | Thursday, 14. December 2017, 12:02 Post #65 |
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Who do we think should induct the band? Bob Dylan? Eric Clapton? |
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| qjamesfloyd | Thursday, 11. January 2018, 15:05 Post #66 |
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I am surprised we have not heard anything from Mark about this yet, however there still is time, I am wondering if he is waiting until he has completed his new solo album in March before thinking about it. |
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| Stanko | Thursday, 11. January 2018, 15:28 Post #67 |
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Sounds logical to me. |
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| qjamesfloyd | Thursday, 11. January 2018, 16:34 Post #68 |
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I suspect he has already made a decision about it, but has just not made it public yet. |
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| Stanko | Thursday, 11. January 2018, 23:07 Post #69 |
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Yes of course, he probably has, and it doesn't have to be infinite anyway... And if one wants to hear from me, RnRHoF doesn't mean much to me compared to Mark or what he believes is a right thing to do, so I don't want to be trapped into the other people's speculations about the whole thing either really. it's just me enjoying in his music! It's not about the glory anyway, you know how it has been said once - when he is gunning for glory boy just won't be told! :wave: Edited by Stanko, Thursday, 11. January 2018, 23:08.
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| qjamesfloyd | Friday, 12. January 2018, 13:59 Post #70 |
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It really doesn't matter to me if he goes or not, I suspect he will though, has he not attended a show where he is to get a big award? I don't think he has to my knowledge. We all know he is a legend, but there are many younger people around who don't know him or the music, so it would be great for the music to be heard on a worldwide audience. |
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| suprlinda | Wednesday, 14. February 2018, 13:58 Post #71 |
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Guy this morning mentioned he will be at the induction with or without Mark. Someone on another forum apparently has a contact at the Hall of Fame. That person said that Mark for sure will be there, but didn't indicate whether anyone, and who that might be, will be playing. |
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| qjamesfloyd | Thursday, 15. February 2018, 16:04 Post #72 |
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That is great Guy is going. It looks like most of the band are now going, it would be strange for the main man Mark not to go, I am going to go out on a limb and say I think he will definitely be there. If they play anything, I suspect it will be something very simple and a crowd pleaser, like Walk of Life. |
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| suprlinda | Wednesday, 14. March 2018, 05:39 Post #73 |
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I nearly forgot. On Guy's forum today (3/13), he said there would be a presentation, no live performance. To me, that implies that Mark has decided he will not attend at all. Oh, well, realistically, it is only the dreamers who probably really thought the group would perform together one last time! I know some of the fans will feel let down, but after all, the hof induction doesn't really give kudos to Mark's song writing, guitar playing or even the band as a whole. Now if was some award from ASCAP or the like, that would probably mean a lot more! |
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| qjamesfloyd | Wednesday, 14. March 2018, 12:31 Post #74 |
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I am not surprised that there will not be a DS performance. Mark has said time and time again he has moved on and has not intention of reforming the band. I think awards like you mention Linda will mean more to Mark than the Hall of Fame award. |
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| qjamesfloyd | Friday, 16. March 2018, 15:33 Post #75 |
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I still think Mark will be involved with this somewhere, it would be strange if he didn't go to the event as he really is Dire Straits, there maybe other official members, but he wrote the songs, sang the songs, and his guitar playing made the big impact for the band, so without him it just wouldn't be Dire Straits!! which is why the tribute bands don't work for me. He is unique. But if he doesn't go, I would expect him to send a video message. The weird thing is him being so close with Guy and John, and they are going, so, until we hear official from Mark that he won't be there, I am still hopeful. |
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| qjamesfloyd | Monday, 19. March 2018, 13:30 Post #76 |
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From Guy on his forum: I don't believe there will be any performance at the HoF in the DS segment. I will be there along with John. At this moment, I can't speak for the others...for various and convoluted reasons. So, it doesn't mean Mark won't be there, but it doesn't mean he will either!! To me, it looks like it will be John and Guy as the people representing the band, as John was in the band the longest(Not including Mark) it is only right he collect the award. |
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| Stanko | Monday, 19. March 2018, 21:24 Post #77 |
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It is really kind from Guy to speak on that in first place, I mean it is his good will, not that he had an obligation for any explanation. I have the same thoughts when it comes to the award, I also believe it has to be John if Mark doesn't attend. Edited by Stanko, Monday, 19. March 2018, 21:51.
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| qjamesfloyd | Wednesday, 21. March 2018, 10:32 Post #78 |
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I agree, I don't think Guy has to say anything about it at all, but he has so that is good for us. As long as John is there, that is ok in my book, as it would mean one of the founders of the group being there, which I think is important. Mark clearly is just not interested in the whole thing, and that is his choice, I don't really need an explanation from him, I am sure we all do things where we don't provide explanations. |
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| suprlinda | Tuesday, 3. April 2018, 15:33 Post #79 |
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Just as a bit of information about the RHOF, in yesterday's paper it was announced that the Hall actually has a mission! The article announced that RHOF was receiving $4.1 million sponsorship for five years to help expand its youth education programs and community activities. Apparently it is to support free events, interactive exhibit storytelling and live music, as well as help underwrite the youth education program Toddler Rock. "There's no limit to what can be accomplished when the power of rock and roll is combined with education," said Greg Harris, the Hall's CEO. The regional bank president (the donor of the grant) said that music has the power to transcend boundaries of age, time and background, and that is why they are involved. This month they will officially kick off their celebrations with Celebration Day Powered by PNC (the bank). This occurs April 7 and includes live performances headlined by 2018 inductee Richie Sambora and Australia's Orianthi. Apparently, there will be other celebrations throughout the week until the Induction Ceremony on the 14th. The RHOF is also partnering with others to bring a music festival to downtown Cleveland. City officials mentioned a recent study which found that nearly 750,000 visitors came to the Hall in 2017. I certainly never was aware that they did anything except have a museum! Of course, I've never really been interested either! |
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| qjamesfloyd | Tuesday, 3. April 2018, 16:04 Post #80 |
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I didn't realise that either Linda, and like you, I have never really been interested in the RRHOF, mainly because they seem to stray away from what is what I would consider rock and roll. And Dire Straits should have been inducted many years ago, and so should Mark Knopfler as a solo artist. But, as with most of these type of things, it's a popularity thing!!! |
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| Stanko | Tuesday, 3. April 2018, 19:52 Post #81 |
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Yes, I didn't know of all of that either but one just could feel the story (or smell all that money behind it) between the lines... Sucker Row plot i would say! in general, most people would rather follow the trends than their common sense - some obviously know how to make use of that ;-) |
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| qjamesfloyd | Wednesday, 4. April 2018, 05:29 Post #82 |
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Whatever Mark's reason is for not attending the ceremony (And he still hasn't said anything officially) it is strange he won't be there, just on the basis that to my knowledge he has never not picked up an award before? But I could be wrong, so if this is the first time, then he must have a strong reason. In 10 days we will find out, but to be honest I will be glad when it is over, as there are better things to look forward to. |
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| qjamesfloyd | Thursday, 5. April 2018, 06:08 Post #83 |
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I think Mark is just not interested in this. I think he doesn't want to be forced into being seen smiling with his old band mates, standing on a stage as if there is no issue with them, when there clearly is, so, from his point of view, why would he put himself in that situation? It is ok for John and Guy, as they were not the front men, but most of the pressure of the band was on Mark, and having put that to bed in 1995 he moved on, nothing wrong with that.
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| qjamesfloyd | Friday, 6. April 2018, 06:02 Post #84 |
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One thing that does occur to me though is that a lot of people still don't know who Mark is, and his history, and they may just form an opinion about him on his RRHOF no show, and think badly of him, which would do him a disservice!!! |
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| qjamesfloyd | Tuesday, 10. April 2018, 08:00 Post #85 |
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With only a couple of days to go until the ceremony, more articles are coming out over the situation with the band, the article below seems to be written by someone with some idea of the facts: Dire Straits RRHOF |
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| Stanko | Tuesday, 10. April 2018, 11:37 Post #86 |
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Thank you for the article James. I have just had a vision while reading it, a big picture, the answer is obvious - Dire Straits is bigger than RHOF, it is just impossible to comprehend someone who is "bigger" than you. They are more than R&R. :rockon: |
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| qjamesfloyd | Wednesday, 11. April 2018, 07:08 Post #87 |
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The whole thing is meaningless, which I guess is one of the reasons Mark is not going. He has been given many other awards in the past, which must mean to him, that they had some meaning, but this one does not, nothing wrong with that. I don't know why people are getting so would up about this whole thing!!! Mark has a choice to go or not, he does not want to be forced into it, I know I would not do anything I didn't want to do, and this whole "It's for the fans thing" again is meaningless, it is not the fans who are being inducted, it is the band. |
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| Stanko | Thursday, 12. April 2018, 17:29 Post #88 |
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I believe* he just didn't feel like coming, it's as simple as that. :waytogo: here is the whole article btw https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/columns/rock/8307588/dire-straits-guitarist-john-illseley-mark-knopfler-no-show-rock-hall-of-fame-induction?__twitter_impression=true Edited by Stanko, Thursday, 12. April 2018, 17:31.
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| qjamesfloyd | Friday, 13. April 2018, 05:38 Post #89 |
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That's right. I don't know why some people are making such a big deal about it, as far as I know, this is the first time Mark has not accepted an award, which considering he has ben making music for 40 years is ok by me, don't forget, David is not going either, so why people are not talking about him in a negative way is amazing!! Mark is not the bad person some people are making him out to be, he is known as being a gentleman of rock, almost every interview I read about him starts with the journalist stating how unassuming Mark is, and how eloquent he is, he has also done a great deal for charity over the years, people can be quick to forget that, and just judge him for his decision not to attend an award ceremony!! Really, it is not that big a deal. |
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| qjamesfloyd | Sunday, 15. April 2018, 06:12 Post #90 |
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Dire Straits have now been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. John, Guy and Alan were the members of the group who went to the award show, according to John Illsley, he himself inducted the band, which is a bit strange, this is only the second time I have taken notice of the awards, so I don't know if that is unique, the other time I took note was when Pink Floyd were inducted, and that was by Billy Corgan. I am guessing as Mark did not attend, there wasn't a big enough name to do the job, so John did it. I have not seen a video clip of the induction yet, but I think there was a video presentation of the band. |
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