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The Conservative Party Discussion Thread
Topic Started: Aug 24 2010, 01:03 PM (568 Views)
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Who is responsible for the present financial meltdown...

To understand what is happening you have to go back to who was responsible for it all in the first place...The EVIL ones...and the two words that caused it all..."Deregulation"..."Globalisation"...The insanity of free market economics, or should that read GREED of the few at the expense of the many.

"Milton Friedman, free-market economist who inspired Reagan and Thatcher, dies aged 94"...

http://tinyurl.com/49gjlw

"The deflation of Friedman"...

http://tinyurl.com/2pnql8

"What do we owe to Thatcherite economics?"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3685881.stm

The influence that Thatcher had over Reagan as regards economic thinking (or lack off) was key to todays events.

"They really respected each other's views, and if that is not influence, I don't know what is".

"President Reagan said: "We met before she became prime minister and I became president, and the moment we met, we discovered that we shared quite similar views of government and freedom. Margaret ended our first meeting by telling me that we must stand together, and that is exactly what we have done ever since"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1185177.stm


"Ian Gilmour served as defence secretary during Edward Heath's administration, before becoming Lord Privy Seal in Margaret Thatcher's first government"

"In September 1981 he was sacked by Mrs Thatcher and remained a prominent critic of what he regarded as extreme Thatcherite policies"

"He responded to his sacking by Mrs Thatcher by issuing a statement declaring that she was steering "full speed ahead for the rocks"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7007648.stm


"It is 25 years since Margaret Thatcher became prime minister. Click on an individual in the image or use the drop-down menu below to find out more about the members of her first cabinet, and what has happened to them since"...

http://tinyurl.com/3ca5ml
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Remember...

Back in the 1980s, Thatcher burnt off most of the UK north sea gas 20/25 years worth into the atmosphere in order to give tax cuts to get re-elected, the money was there to store it. Norway did store their gas and are now selling it to the UK and making a lot of money.

I am old enough to remember three people going into number 10 to BEG Thatcher NOT to burn off all that north sea gas (picture of them going into number 10 was in one of the newpapers at the time). They told her it would soon be needed. It was three days later she came out off number 10 and was asked….”Why are you going to burn off all that gas” she replied…”I have agonised over this but feel it is the best thing to do”…I will remember that until my dying day.

All to give tax cuts to get re-elected. She could not have given those tax cuts and stored the gas.

It should also be pointed out that it was NOT in the interest of some of Thatchers friends for the UK to have that gas (Nuclear industry and others). Who are the others?...The Iraq War was not just about oil, someone has all the maps to where the great uranium fields are in Iraq, they have had them since the times when Winston Churchill was PM...How many people know that?. Some experts predict that uranium may run out in the next 20/30 years.

January 11, 2010
"Is the United Kingdom facing a natural gas shortage?"...
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6113#comments_top

Related Articles:
http://archive.theboltonnews.co.uk/2005/12/19/879649.html
http://tinyurl.com/39842jy
September 5, 2008... http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/4488
Sep 4, 2008... http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL434523020080904
http://www.bmreports.com/servlet/com.logica.neta.bwp_SystemWarningServlet
http://tinyurl.com/2w7ofzc
http://tinyurl.com/8jc78q

Sunday, January 11, 2009
"COBRA planning for nationwide emergency as gas storage closes down"...
http://tinyurl.com/9ozrk6


Putting your priorities first... http://www.banthebomb.org/newbombs/Notridentrep.htm


Not the first time "The Conservative Party" has sold us all down the (privatised) river...

What a mess our railway/transport system is in, it was all planned to be like this...

Back in the 1920s the railway system of the UK was ready and able to take on the mantel of distribution of goods/passengers to all parts of the UK, and it would have worked very well, all the plans were in place. Most members of Parliament were all for it, then something happened...The road haulage industry that was just beginning to come into being (it was a very small concern then), didn`t think this was a good idea,the motor manufacturers didn`t think it was a good idea, the oil companies didn`t think it was a good idea. So to cut a long story short and a lot of very thick brown paper envelopes later, MPs didn`t think it was a good idea. All that went on is now documented history, a documentary/play about what went on was showing on the TV about twenty or so years ago. We have suffered to this day and how. Everytime you see a lorry on the motorway think of this post.

The sheer criminality of successive UK governments has brought about the state of our transport system. We are about to find out the full extent of the true cost when the oil price goes through the roof. We are TOTALLY UNPREPARED.

The Conservative Party are Politically, Morally, Terminally Diseased.
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John Kozy is a retired professor of philosophy and logic who writes on social, political, and economic issues.

"a free market economy is a destructive myth."...

http://tinyurl.com/3yaqucs
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Many on the far right (and not so far right) are trying to make this global financial crisis / collapse out to be a "mistake", "things just got out of hand".

The TRUTH...

Some knew where all this would lead to, those who warned and tried to stop it were silenced. Alan Greenspan said he did not realise until too late what was happening...Alan Greenspan is lying, he was/is one of the main architect's, perpetrators of this social and financial armageddon. The scale of this is truly breathtaking. The main ingredient that the few used was greed, while people were making so much money they were oblivious to where this was eventually going to end up. Even as time went by and more and more began to realise where it was all going, they couldn`t stop themselves from making more money, their greed overcome their senses, the few couldn`t lose and they knew it. Appeal to a basic human instinct was the rule of the few, a well tried and proven winner used time and time again throughout history. The writing was on the wall, I saw it in 1981. It was easy to see, it`s not rocket science to work out what will happen when you start to destroy the manufacturing base of any nation, that was what Thatcher was all about, take away the power of the masses and you will have them at your mercy. It is know known that the the miners' strike of 1984 was planned and provoked by the Conservative Party, yet no charges of treason of/to the state has ever been brought by the laws of this nation, and treason was what it was...
http://tinyurl.com/c4xbbh

Here is an example of one that tried and was silenced...

"Brooksley Born"....
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/

"The Financial Con Of The Decade Explained So Simply Even A Congressman Will Get It"...
http://tinyurl.com/33j3bz3

'Capitalism: A Love Story' DVD Extra - Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2kfAr2h5NE

This will get FAR worse, you have seen nothing yet. I will make you a prediction: In the coming months you will see many well known banks going under, maybe?, all of them. It was planned to be this way. I think that there is a bigger reason then just making undreamed amounts of money for the few. We will in time find out what the real reason is...TOTAL consolidation of the power base of the far right?, is all I can come up with...Time will tell.

All the evidence to put these people into jail is staring us in the face, yet nothing has been done to bring them to justice, and nothing will be done.

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It should also be remembered that in the 1980s this country was the world leader in the development of clean coal technology via the fluidised bed plant at Grimethorpe colliery. Thatcher closed it down...

http://eeru.open.ac.uk/natta/renewonline/rol62/7.htm
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"Right-Wing conspiracy fails to gain power in the UK"...
http://tinyurl.com/2uhukzp

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15881&pid=192107&st=0&#entry192107

I wonder if phone tapping of LibDems?, among other things allegedly, came into play, in forming this ConDem coalition?.
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"An accountant who embezzled almost £130,000 as he funded his girlfriend's "luxury" lifestyle has been jailed for a year."...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8142628.stm

"A woman who embezzled more than £130,000 from the Scottish Conservative Party has been jailed for 22 months."...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8140411.stm
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JULY 3, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/27vad3s

NOVEMBER 19, 2009...
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/56326,business,michael-ashcroft-bank-lent-millions-to-disgraced-caribbean-pm

MARCH 18, 2010...
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/61105,people,news,lord-ashcroft-lawyers-force-bbc-to-shelve-panorama-doc

More...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/17/lord-ashcroft-party-funding-political-briefing

"Panorama"

"Watch Investigation into the finances of the Conservative Party's political donor Lord Ashcroft."...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vcch5/Panorama_Lord_Ashcrofts_Millions/

This could so easily have gone onto "The Labour Party Discussion Thread " or "The Liberal Democrat Discussion Thread" or "The Scottish National Party Discussion Thread", its just a continuation of what went on before, we live in reality in a one party state!.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-given-millions-by-property-developers-2352407.html
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