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Top 5 reasons brawl may suck
Topic Started: Feb 8 2008, 11:36 PM (458 Views)
Einar T.
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A list made up by gamedaily

More like top 5 nitpicks if ya ask me. (with the exception to #3) But best nitpicks you can find I suppose, and I do agree with all of them. Again though I see this at "nitpicks" not reasons for suckitude.
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Hyper Metal Sonic
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#1 is a disapointment, but not something to say the game will suck, online isn't the whole game. I know this isn''t really saying the game will suck, but still X_X. Also no voice chat=pointless online experience? That too seems like a bad thing to say.
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Einar T.
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Feb 9 2008, 12:27 AM
#1 is a disapointment, but not something to say the game will suck, online isn't the whole game. I know this isn''t really saying the game will suck, but still X_X. Also no voice chat=pointless online experience? That too seems like a bad thing to say.

I love voice chat. It makes xbox live a lot of fun to be able to talk to people in TMNT or Gears.
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Blinking Rune
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For those not wanting to click the link:

-Button Mash=Victory
-Star Fox Overkill
-Slow Connection Time
-No Voice Chat
-No Online Ranking

And now I'll refute these claims.

Button Mashing: That's what makes the game easy to pick up for everyone. It can be a serious fighter or a fighting game. Go play Street Fighter if you care about this.
Star Fox: Dr. Mario was a clone. Mario was an orignal. Luigi was a half clone. Melee didn't suck.
Slow Connection Time: Don't play online. :p Get friends. Like DBZ said, this is the only one with any ground to it.
No voice chat: Seriously?! Go listen to a Halo chat. If you haven't, you'd hate it. F-bombs, n-words, genitalia...it's just a bunch of twelve year olds yelling at eachother. And my brother is 19.
No online ranking: Yay, a game I can play online and not get ranked on! Ranks just make me feel bad.
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Hyper Metal Sonic
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Voice chat can be fun, but I don't think it'd make the online experience any less enjoyable.
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Einar T.
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I think I may play devils advocate in this thread...

I think you guys arn't giving voice chat a real thought. While it doesn't ruin the experience, it does add to it. Why can't it be just with friends at the very least? It helps build a community and lets you expand your friend list.

When he talks about the button mashing I know exactly what he means. A lot of my friends are incredibly cheap in Melee AND THEY WIN EVERYTIME! Now as BR said, the controls in smash bros make it easy for anyone to pick up. But making the game too much of a button masher lets these people think its ok to only use 1 attack.

With the Star Fox characters he hits the nail on the head, too many and too the same. Now as much as I am sure some will disagree but none the less Luigi is the exception to being a clone. Why?

Well when it comes to Smash bros Mario and Luigi are the Ken and Ryu of the series. To explain, while they appear the same yet they are different upon a closer look.

Luigis Up-B can be a 1 hit KO
His Forward B is offensive not defensive
His fire ball does not bounce
His Down B pulls people in rather then push them out
Finally his standard attacks are very different then Mario

Now this is not the case with the star fox characters. The only difference with falco was he was slower then fox, and his gun caused recoil. If they took the time to change them to be more like Luigi I don't think people would be so annoyed with there being 3 of them.

Now with online ranking not very important though I think it would be nice to have a friends ranking to see where you rank with friends in thinks like total online KO's and K/D spreads.
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Blinking Rune
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He's still similar enough to Mario to make me consider him a half-clone. And no, voice chat in Brawl is a bad idea. End of story. Or do you want me to record some Halo matches? :p I've never seen one without tons of vulgarities.
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Hyper Metal Sonic
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Well 1 button mashing isn't a problem, if you spam a move the damage it does lowers. Even more so than it did in Melee, so this time around we'll see a cut down on spammers. As for voice chat, I understand it adds to the experience, but I'm not really disapointed it's not in there. But I do understand others are, so I'm not really saying it shouldn't be in there.
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CHAOSGAMMA
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Feb 9 2008, 01:50 AM
He's still similar enough to Mario to make me consider him a half-clone. And no, voice chat in Brawl is a bad idea. End of story. Or do you want me to record some Halo matches? :p I've never seen one without tons of vulgarities.

Einar did say have voice chat just with friends, which would eliminate the "Halo situation." The big reason there's no voice chat is there is no hardware for the Wii to make it possible. They'd have to create a microphone/headset for the Wii in order to implement voice chat in Brawl or any game.

I saw this top 5 list before reading this thread and I think it's more like the top 5 reasons that the person who made that article may suck. 3 of the 5 are about online play which is just an optional part of the game. Even if the online play did suck the game would still be freaking amazing. One of those 3 is just a prediction with no backbone. All reports of the game's online support so far from Japan with the game and from IGN testing here have been impressed with the flawless connection. The only statement with some truth to it is the Star Fox characters all have the same FS. I've read that even though they all have the Landmaster as their FS they shoot a little bit differently, which isn't good enough because they could each have their own cool FS. Wolf could have the rest of Team Star Wolf fly in and shoot the other players. But does this mean that the whole game sucks? If one little aspect meant that a game sucked then every game ever made would suck. As for "button mashing" , every Smash game has been that way and they've all been great, it's just how the game works, I don't think it's something that could be changed anyways.
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Madmangamer364
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I can sum this up in one really good reason, and it has nothing to do with the game's fighting system or even how good the game is itself. It has everything to do with expectations. The point is that SSBB has been so hyped, anything less than perfection will be a disappointment for someone. Heck, we're already starting to see it with the character roster, and only a handful of people outside of Japan has even played this game. Does that mean the game will truly be bad? Not by a long shot! However, some are going to be disappointed and make claims that the game is worse than it is because of their unreal expectations by nit-picking, much like you see with this list.

I know I just took a 180 as far as this subject goes, but I think that will play a much bigger part than anything else in regards to this.
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