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Dead Space 2
Topic Started: Jan 19 2011, 01:34 PM (1,517 Views)
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Bonkers XIX,May 2 2011
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Bonkers XIX,May 1 2011
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I like to call it "The EA effect".
Whenever EA gets their hands on a really, really good title with a future (Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dragon Age), the sequel never really lives up to it's predecessor's glory.
That's not to say they aren't great games, but they don't live up to the expectations we give them.
That, and they cut the good stuff (story) to "improve the gameplay".

That's all speculation, but looking at the titles i've listed, I've noticed a pattern.

Maybe, but Mass Effect 2 was totally better than the first game. The story in the original was kind of ripped off, the combat was horrible, the planetary sidequests were laughably bad, the engine was terribly optimized, and the load times were a joke.

Really, the only thing the original Mass Effect had going for it was a cool sci-fi story, and even the basics of that were, as I said above, ripped from a combination of KOTOR (which was a previous BioWare game, but still) and the Revelation Space novel universe.

The second game actually made the combat fun. The sidequests were unique and actually involved more than driving a vehicle with shitty controls around a desolate wasteland. The story was still solid, even if the final boss kind of sucked. The engine was optimized and load times were much less frequent (no ten-minute-long elevator rides in this sequel, kids).

Basically the entire game was better except for a few minor story hiccups, but overall the writing was still great and the side characters and their quests were interesting.

I'll give you Dragon Age, though.

My guess is that Bioware had the majority of ME2 done already before EA swooped in.
ME3 is my biggest concern this year in terms of new games coming out.

no that game got the good ol ea treatment, it just happened to be that is what that game needed. but i have to say overall i enjoyed the first game more cause i like rpgs more than shooters.
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Wait I thought ME1 had great combat and ME2's was unbelievably bland and repetitive. Am I wrong?

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In this dead space 2 thread
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iBrain,May 2 2011
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Bonkers XIX,May 2 2011
02:11 PM
improper,May 2 2011
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Bonkers XIX,May 1 2011
09:06 PM
I like to call it "The EA effect".
Whenever EA gets their hands on a really, really good title with a future (Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dragon Age), the sequel never really lives up to it's predecessor's glory.
That's not to say they aren't great games, but they don't live up to the expectations we give them.
That, and they cut the good stuff (story) to "improve the gameplay".

That's all speculation, but looking at the titles i've listed, I've noticed a pattern.

Maybe, but Mass Effect 2 was totally better than the first game. The story in the original was kind of ripped off, the combat was horrible, the planetary sidequests were laughably bad, the engine was terribly optimized, and the load times were a joke.

Really, the only thing the original Mass Effect had going for it was a cool sci-fi story, and even the basics of that were, as I said above, ripped from a combination of KOTOR (which was a previous BioWare game, but still) and the Revelation Space novel universe.

The second game actually made the combat fun. The sidequests were unique and actually involved more than driving a vehicle with shitty controls around a desolate wasteland. The story was still solid, even if the final boss kind of sucked. The engine was optimized and load times were much less frequent (no ten-minute-long elevator rides in this sequel, kids).

Basically the entire game was better except for a few minor story hiccups, but overall the writing was still great and the side characters and their quests were interesting.

I'll give you Dragon Age, though.

My guess is that Bioware had the majority of ME2 done already before EA swooped in.
ME3 is my biggest concern this year in terms of new games coming out.

no that game got the good ol ea treatment, it just happened to be that is what that game needed. but i have to say overall i enjoyed the first game more cause i like rpgs more than shooters.

I'm not saying it didn't get the EA treatment, I'm just saying the majority of the game was already done, in terms of storyline and where Bioware wanted to take the series.
I don't think Bioware would let EA fuck with that, since I'm almost certain they had it all planned out from the start, at least the general storyline.
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Pyosisified,May 2 2011
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Wait I thought ME1 had great combat and ME2's was unbelievably bland and repetitive. Am I wrong?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQl5aYhkF3E[/YOUTUBE]

YOU THOUGHT ME1 HAD GREAT COMBAT?

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Combat-wise, ME1 was awful. ME2 was acceptable.
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ME1's combat wasn't so bad, but the controls felt a little clunky, especially trying to get into cover in a heated battle on insane. Fuck that.
ME2 made it feel "right".
Plus, 90% of the enemies you fought were geth in ME1, which was kinda lame.
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Bonkers XIX,May 2 2011
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ME1's combat wasn't so bad, but the controls felt a little clunky, especially trying to get into cover in a heated battle on insane. Fuck that.
ME2 made it feel "right".
Plus, 90% of the enemies you fought were geth in ME1, which was kinda lame.

No, it was bad. In fact, it was flat-out terrible. That game was borderline unplayable during some of the fights.

As Bunny said, the EA treatment was what the game needed. The combat became a sort of "Gears-lite" while still maintaining a lot of the various options and abilities, which in turn made it actually fun most of the time, as you weren't struggling with the system during every major fight like you were in the first game.

I do agree that they stripped too many of the RPG elements that made the first game unique for a sci-fi "shooter," but I've also heard a lot of that is coming back in ME3 because fans complained about their removal in the second game. If they can keep the combat system (and just refine it a bit) and add back a lot of that RPG stuff, I think the third game will be the best in the series.
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The thing that was great about Dead Space was the real-time menus. Added a sense of fluidity and tension to the whole damn game. Everything else was meh.
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