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| Topic Started: Apr 30 2009, 03:38 PM (244 Views) | |
| roo roo | Apr 30 2009, 03:38 PM Post #1 |
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http://homepages.udayton.edu/~merensjp/doberdawn/index.html Edited by roo roo, Apr 30 2009, 03:39 PM.
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| zandd | Apr 30 2009, 03:43 PM Post #2 |
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Wondered what the heck this was :rolleyes: never heard the word dremmeling before,looks useful thanks roo roo. |
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| roo roo | Apr 30 2009, 03:55 PM Post #3 |
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ive dremmeled my dogs nails for years now i started when we had a few tool and hardware shops years ago and i used to file my dogs nails with a large rough cross cut file,when i saw a dremmel my first thought was oooh i wonder if i could do the dogs nails with them?as i showed mainly dobermanns who invariably have black nails and theyre quite tough i hardly ever cut them apart from when theyre pups after that i always filed them.as im always on the look out for a short cut to anything thats hard work when i saw a dremmel and saw how it worked i thought eureka!this is a good site with clear and concise instructions of how to use them for the uninitiated.theres lots of these dremmel type tools on the market these days some for as cheap as 20 pounds or less.but make sure theyre good rpm as if they arent all it will do is file your own nails but wont be tough enough to tackle a dogs! ;) |
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| ClaireS | Apr 30 2009, 06:57 PM Post #4 |
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I've got an electric pet nail file which has been great for Archie but the opening isn't very wide so is a bit fiddly. I'm thinking of getting one of these Pedi Paws as they look a bit more robust. I had a look at Dremels on Ebay and got really confused with all the different types :rolleyes: |
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| roo roo | May 1 2009, 10:08 PM Post #5 |
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id ask the seller what the revs are on this, for the price its very cheap and tbh cheap with a tool like this isnt always the best.i bought a cheap one last year and while its fine for my nails its rubbish for the dogs.by the time it would file them to the extent i want my hand would have dropped off with repetitive strain injury :woohoo: .you want one with a decent motor that gives good revs as if you dont as soon as you press the dogs nail against it it will stop!the ones i have are a cordless dremmel and a corded one with a very long snake like attatchment to it which gives greater flexibility in use.i much prefer the corded one as its got a better motor and is easier to use.its quiet and doesnt upset the dogs too,once theyre used to the dremmel they sleep while their nails are being done ;) |
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| stagnbob | May 4 2009, 12:10 PM Post #6 |
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I've been wondering whether to get a dremmel, with all our lot it must be easier, and hubby always complains of a bad back when he's done them! They seem to use them a lot over in America. I will certainly check out the links, thanks! Lisa |
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| BorderDawn | May 4 2009, 03:29 PM Post #7 |
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I dremmel my dogs nails, they are 100% with it, whereas two of them HATED the clippers!! This was a quick vid I did for somebody of Orey getting his done. Bit dark but you get the idea. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v336/dawnieb/?action=view¤t=MOV00078.flv Roo. I used to have Dobes, didnt know you showed them. :doh: Edited by BorderDawn, May 4 2009, 03:32 PM.
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| Red Rascal | May 4 2009, 06:51 PM Post #8 |
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I'm wondering if I could Dremmel Rascal's pads? He has HK and his pads grow really quickly and hard and then crack. :( I have to try and keep them soft by soaking them in Propylene glycol daily and cutting and filing them back when they get bad, which is horrible for us both :cry: but is the only thing I can do to help him and stop them cracking and then getting infected which would eventually make him go lame. I posted some pictures of the pieces I cut off to show you about the size and amount that comes off to see if you think a Drimmel might be able to help. Cutting seems to be the best for the small pads but is really impossible on the large (really really cutting blind!) and hence why I have to use a nail file meant for acrylic nails on the large ones (a file for regular nail files just snaps!) but its not as good as cutting and why he seems to have worse cracks on the large pads. :err: :( Which a grass seed recently got in and he was limping and afer removing it took several days of soaking in salt water and a week of putting a lot of neem oil (which he hates the smell of and runs from :( ) several times a day to heal. Posted Image Posted Image I also cut his nails myself and find it hard as they are thicker than normal nails and its impossible to see or feel where the quick is and the nail although thick is sometimes not solid and has layers that peel a bit like an onion! :blink: Any advice appreciated and sorry for the long post, I don't mind buying two machines maybe a more gentle one for his pads and a regular one for his nails, and to be honest don't care if they are a bit expensive as it really does/can effect his health a lot. Thanks. :flower: |
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| roo roo | May 4 2009, 08:18 PM Post #9 |
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ill show my daughter this problem and the pics as she is far more versed in dogs pads and feet as she races her dogs so they are prone to getting foot and nail injuries. border dawn i showed my first dobe in 1975 and have always had them untill the last few years when i lost my old dog and didnt replace him with another as i felt i was getting a bit old to be doing all the exercise that a dobe needs and wouldnt be able to hold a dobe male back as theyre quite strong!i do miss having one around though as we always had dobes here all our lives since when we first got married :( |
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| roo roo | May 5 2009, 06:48 PM Post #10 |
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whats HK by the way? is it hyperkerastosis?
Edited by roo roo, May 5 2009, 07:29 PM.
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| wild whippies | May 5 2009, 08:12 PM Post #11 |
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It's the only thing that I could think as an abbreviation for HK? If it is Hyperkeratosis, has a cause been identified e.g. CDV? |
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| Red Rascal | May 6 2009, 09:43 PM Post #12 |
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Yes its Hyperkeratosis of the foot pad, which is a genetic disease Irish Terrier can suffer from, although it is really quite rare and so unfortunately our vet had never heard of it and even when we went to the Vet Hospital the specalist had only seen pictures of it and never seen it in real life. Several IT people have been very very kind and gave us great advice regarding it, even as far as Germany a vet who is also a Irish Terrier person was very helpful and generous with her time via the internet by looking at photo's etc to see what stage it was at and also what treatment might help , she also took these Photo's of the disease which will show you what the pads get like. The photo doesn't show the nails well but they are very thick and Rascal's at the moment seem hollow at the bottom! :err: Which is why I think a dremmel on them might be the right way to go even if its not for the pads. :unsure: Any ideas/advice really appreciated. :flower: |
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| wild whippies | May 7 2009, 01:10 PM Post #13 |
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Has the vet suggested salicylic acid? It's used in many cosmetic preparations (at very low levels) to increase cell shedding and softening of skin tissue. I'd enquire about any appropiate veterinary preparations that may be available. The only thing with hyperkeratosis is frictional rubbing can exascerbate the condition and I'd be worried that while initially you got a good result, the condition itself would come back quicker and more aggresively. Not only that but as dremmels heat up very fast, it's not like you'd be doing this in a quick stint, you'd have to do it gradually (thus prolonging the period of rubbing) Maybe it'd be best asking those experienced whether they feel it would be beneficial? Something that's completely non-toxic to dogs which is very good for softening and moisturising paw pads is Shaw's Paw Wax. I use it on the racers because the pads are less likely to crack and split with this stuff and I've found that having supple (but well keratinised paw pads) makes them a lot more robust to injury than when products have been used to toughen / tighten or dry the pads out e.g. surgical spirit. The advantage for your with this is that by softening the pads, it should make removal of hyperkeratinised tissue a lot easier. If you do get the ok for dremmeling, I'd still use the paw wax because even the slightest bit of retained moisture in the pads will be beneficial not only for making it easier to be removed but also to couteract some of the rapid heating that can occur. I also suspect it'll make the whole process easier to do too because a nice paw masssage of wax after you've done the dremmeling will make the experience slightly more pleasant for your dog. Here's a thread I did on another website for anyone interested in dremmeling. Here's my 'Dremmel' bought from B&Q for £30 it came with the extension lead and stand you see here along with a load of drill bits and plenty of sanding discs Posted Image Close up image of sanding disc drill bit Posted Image One of my dogs nails here, as you can see the tips are just starting to make full contact with the floor as he's stood still. Posted Image Here I've cleaned up his nails with a 10% peroxide solution and an old toothbrush. I find it gives better visibility of the nail and the vein but also highlights any cracks in the nails and cleanses the dogs cuticles which may have sand / debris ingrained in them. Posted Image When I first started doing my dogs nails I would just switch the dremmel on in it's stand and encourage them to come near and reward with treats. (Don't have any drill bits in incase they want to sniff it!) I would then just try to literally brush it over their nails and then go over the top with praise for them being good. This I did over days rather than minutes so it become a routine to them. Next model is Riley who is quite a timid dog when it comes to being poked and prodded. I get all dogs that are new to this to stand between my legs because if your on your own doing this, they could bolt off and run into the cables etc. If you've got an extra hand though you may prefer to have one person hold while the other files. Posted Image For back nails on all my dogs I always stand them supported between my legs because they seem more assured if their body is suppported whilst a back leg is raised. Posted Image Finally a close up, hold the dremmel with a thumb extended, as it guides your movement. Extend the nail and support the toe as you file, this puts vibration down to a minimum and keeps your movement smooth and the nail still. DO NOT file for more than a few seconds as the doberdog link says, these things can heat up quick and it will put your dog off permanently! Posted Image Hope this was useful |
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| Tafia | May 7 2009, 03:34 PM Post #14 |
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Very! The whole post was really interesting, even for those of us who don't have any experience of hyperkeratosis. Thanks. |
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| roo roo | May 7 2009, 04:36 PM Post #15 |
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lol ask her to post the one about her dog(jack seven) having the drains in its neck!thats interesting too! :yes: pictures are a bit yucky though! |
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