Frank, Staffie X Bulldog, 3 years old

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Frank, Staffie X Bulldog, 3 years old
Topic Started: Jun 12 2009, 09:16 PM (289 Views)
Terrier Rescue/Rescue Remedies	Jun 12 2009, 09:16 PM Post #1
Terrier Rescue Posts: 935 Group: Full Members Member #734 Joined: October 22, 2008	Frank, Staffie X Bulldog, 3 years old Posted Image History: Found stray, but microchipped. Owners had passed him on. The owner's details were recognised ... 2 mastiffs were found stray in the past, again covered in mange! Thank God they didn't want him back. Salient points: Challenged with chronic mange, but now under control, no longer contagious and is responding to treatment programme. Aloof in most relationships. Needs companionship and support in coping with isolation. Desperate past so needs aware, patient and committed family. Advert: Frank is a designer dog ... sadly his life just hasn't lived up to that 'dream label'. Frank was found stray in a terrible state, he isn't out of the woods yet. ?Staffie X Bulldog crossed with a smaller breed, judging by his excess folded coat of a beautiful beige with eyes to match. He is quite young, and has been neglected to the extreme; both physically and emotionally. He suffers in kennelling, as though experiencing more of the same. However he is now loved, cared for and being prepared for a very special life! Now neutered, vax'd and on a treatment programme which is proving affective for chronic mange. No longer contagious, but still affecting him. Pictures were when he first came in 6 weeks ago. Frank is sad; Frank has every reason to be. Our kennels offer him love, toys and he is receiving the very best of attention to meet his needs. He is getting used to formal walks though can sit initially as if to say 'this is taking me out of my comfort zone'. Frank now needs the owner who is willing to be there for him and provide him with the love and individual care to bring him through into his new life. Frank is currently reactive to other dogs. Needs to be an only pet and to have company and to help him trust and become close and adjusted to a domestic setting. Frank needs a special family and whow what a special dog. "Please note that this dog is currently in kennels and is also available for foster until a 'forever' home is found". Please visit our FORUM to see this dogs individual thread, find out more about them and follow their progress – http://rescueremedies.myfastforum.org/ftopic1600-0.php. If you are interested in re-homing please visit our website www.rescueremedies.co.uk and complete our homing questionnaire so we can ensure our dogs are matched and will suit your circumstances/lifestyle. For daily updates click our forum logo on our homepage and you will find the full range of dogs that are available for homing - http://rescueremedies.myfastforum.org/index.php. Posted Image Posted Image Edited by Terrier Rescue/Rescue Remedies, Jun 25 2009, 08:28 PM.



roo roo	Jun 12 2009, 10:45 PM Post #2
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 2,685 Group: Full Members Member #479 Joined: June 8, 2007	awww poor lad :(



BorderDawn	Jun 13 2009, 09:55 PM Post #3
Moderator Posts: 1,900 Group: Moderators Member #36 Joined: January 12, 2005	I mentioned this before on another forum, I dont think you should claim this dog is a Shar-Pei when it clearly isnt. If anything its a Staffie.



Tafia	Jun 13 2009, 09:58 PM Post #4
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 5,822 Group: Full Members Member #134 Joined: November 17, 2005	BorderDawn Jun 13 2009, 09:55 PM I mentioned this before on another forum, I dont think you should claim this dog is a Shar-Pei when it clearly isnt. If anything its a Staffie. I thought that he didn't look anything like a Shar Pei myself.



piwoodhouse	Jun 13 2009, 10:13 PM Post #5
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 3,970 Group: Full Members Member #282 Joined: August 18, 2006	It says in the text he's probably crossed with something smaller and my immediate thought was staffie too. As you all know I have a particular soft spot for staffies called Frank :wub: and I only hope this boy gets the special home he needs. He looks so desperately miserable in his first photo poor love.



Terrier Rescue/Rescue Remedies	Jun 14 2009, 06:58 PM Post #6
Terrier Rescue Posts: 935 Group: Full Members Member #734 Joined: October 22, 2008	Some new photos of Frank … Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image



BorderDawn	Jun 14 2009, 07:15 PM Post #7
Moderator Posts: 1,900 Group: Moderators Member #36 Joined: January 12, 2005	Having seen these pictures elsewhere, Id say Staff x Bulldog, not Shar-pei anywhere!!



xxLynne	Jun 15 2009, 08:34 AM Post #8
One of the regulars Posts: 199 Group: Full Members Member #67 Joined: April 1, 2005	Breeding isn't the key thing the fact is Frank has had a terrible life and so much needs a loving home. Excess folds on his skin has meant mange having got a hold :err: ..but now improving and looking forwards. We are delighted to have given him a chance to walk away from his past.. :crossedfingers:



piwoodhouse	Jun 15 2009, 08:41 AM Post #9
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 3,970 Group: Full Members Member #282 Joined: August 18, 2006	Sad that so much has happened to him while he still so young. I hope he finds the brighter future he so needs.



Terrier Rescue/Rescue Remedies	Jun 24 2009, 08:29 PM Post #10
Terrier Rescue Posts: 935 Group: Full Members Member #734 Joined: October 22, 2008	How could anyone resist this face?? Posted Image Posted Image More 1-2-1 in the paddock today, running around with his footballs. Frank is certainly getting fitter, but he still gets affected by the heat, at least in the paddock he can stop when he gets too hot. Seemed to enjoy his time today.



BorderDawn	Jun 24 2009, 09:04 PM Post #11
Moderator Posts: 1,900 Group: Moderators Member #36 Joined: January 12, 2005	xxLynne Jun 15 2009, 08:34 AM Breeding isn't the key thing the fact is Frank has had a terrible life and so much needs a loving home. Excess folds on his skin has meant mange having got a hold :err: ..but now improving and looking forwards. We are delighted to have given him a chance to walk away from his past.. :crossedfingers: Im sorry Lynne, but breeding IS the key when rehoming dogs. Frank is CLEARLY NOT what he is described to be, do you have any idea of what can possibly happen to a dog when its wrongly identified and placed into a home without the correct understanding of its breeding? Its imperitive that when possible the correct breeds are described and there is NO Shar-Pei in that dog, Id stake everything on it. Excess folds has nothing to do with mange, it attacks every part of a dog.



roo roo	Jun 24 2009, 09:43 PM Post #12
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 2,685 Group: Full Members Member #479 Joined: June 8, 2007	is it mange or is it a skin allergy?i know that some breeds are susceptable(sp) to skin allergies and problems especially some of the far eastern breeds like sharpeis and shibas,my vet said its to do with the way the hairs grow sort of upright instead of laying flat like they do in mosts breeds.brush coated shar peis will be more prone to skin trouble.i dont think anyone (unless hes god) can tell what breeding is behind a dog without knowing for sure. ;) all we can do is guess. :flower:



piwoodhouse	Jun 24 2009, 10:15 PM Post #13
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 3,970 Group: Full Members Member #282 Joined: August 18, 2006	I can understand BorderDawn's point of view but in this particular case, I don't think the perceived damage is that great. Shar Peis and Staffies alike have a history of being used to protect their owners and for fighting, the only difference being geographical. So it isn't as if someone would be adopting Frank expecting him to behave like a Shih Tzu. We've often had dogs in rescue that are very hard to identify and frequently we will just give our best guess as to what breeds have gone into the mix. An early photo of Frank showed the 'mallet' profile I've seen on a Shar Pei, plus his mange has admittedly created the skin folds you expect to see in this breed and so while I think he a million times more likely to be a staffie cross than a more exotic oriental breed I can understand why he was so described. I don't think Lynne has intended to misrepresent or deceive nor to gain any advantage by labelling him as she has, though to prevent any comeback on the rescue it might be prudent to add a question mark after Shar Pei, thus making it absolutely clear that his heritage is a guess.



BorderDawn	Jun 24 2009, 11:15 PM Post #14
Moderator Posts: 1,900 Group: Moderators Member #36 Joined: January 12, 2005	Im sorry if I sound a bit "off" here and I dont mean to, but this rescue has done this a fair few times IMO. Dogs which are easily identified, are given "titles" and breed crosses and I personally think its wrong and unfair to prospective owners. I make no apologies as Ive seen the down side of this too many times, one case just recently, a "Poodle cross" (NOT this rescue I might add) was clearly a Patterdale with a wirey/curly coat. Rehomed by a VERY reputable rescue to an elderly couple. When the dog began to feel its feet, it killed their 15yr old Cat and attacked their sons Bichon Frise without warning. I saw the dog and the first thing I said was "nice Patterdale, I expect he is a handfull" to which the owner broke into tears nad told me what had happened, the dog was returned to the rescue and subsequently PTS as unhomeable, yet upon his return to kennels, once again he was a model dog.



piwoodhouse	Jun 24 2009, 11:52 PM Post #15
Total Gas Bag! Posts: 3,970 Group: Full Members Member #282 Joined: August 18, 2006	Absolutely agree on some of that Dawn- a poodle is highly intelligent and very trainable and a patterdale is high energy and hard work! And if the rescue had taken advantage of the dog's outward appearance to offload a "difficult" dog then to me that is gross misrepresentation. The chasm between breeds that would broadly be described as "bull" types though is appreciatively narrower and so the characteristics of one would be pretty like the other. Anyone adopting one probably wouldn't have any unpleasant surprises. (Awful story and I'm thankful we have a non-destruction policy) Problems will inevitably arise when we simply don't know what the breed is. I can remember when Lorna first joined and invited us all to guess Mustard's breeds. There were LOADS and at the end of the day we were still none the wiser! Plus of course the picture is confused further because a dog's dam and sire could be quite poor specimens of their breeds and stand a distance away from the breed standards anyway. Recently I've been picked up (nicely!) because we advertised a dog whose former owner claimed was a Parson Russell. It may have been that but some thought it was more likely a long legged Jack Russell. I'm not intending to mislead anyone but the fact is, I don't know enough of the nuances between the two to make the distinction. And I can tell you that if ever we have a dog in with a broad white horizontal stripe across it's tail, it usually ends up being described as a Border Terrier cross!



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