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Topic Started: Feb 7 2011, 12:48 PM (713 Views)
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After reading Ephesians chapter 4 verses 26 through chapter 5 verse 21 I find myself in a quandry. On one hand I really am extremely fond of a particular online game that I play but on the other hand this game revolves around the concept of brawling, and violence and maliciousness. I also find myself perplexed as to certain things I am watching as it says in these verses that even mentioning the things that are practiced by the disobedient is abhorant. If mentioning these things are abhorant then what must it be to find entertainment through watching them?


recently I posted this on my facebook page, obviously the online game I spoke of was efeds. I have made no decision yet but it would appear by all reason at present moment that if I am to be a true Christian and not just another fashionably Christian individual it might be time for me to step down from the efed world altogether and persue my faith and sprituality.
 
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like i said over facebook, do what you feel is best. i dont personally agree with christianity but i do respect your decision since it was well explained. i wont try to persuade you out of it because i know how self-admittedly stubborn you usually are. all i can really do is wish you the best in future endeavors.


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3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
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2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
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4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
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Mr. Hendrickson
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I think you should follow your heart. God always leads his followers in the right direction. I believe that to follow the path the righteousness you must first cleanse and then continue. I believe you will find your answers and in the end maybe the road will lead you back or it will lead you to something greater.
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Vincent
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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you an atheist?
 
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even if we were, doesn't stop us from intelligent discussion. i don't believe in it, yet i know the bible cover for cover. reason being i grew up in a catholic family. complete with dorms and school. i was the rebel of the group till i got expelled and went to normal school, intentionally, against my parents' consent. i hate having stuff forced down my throat just cause of the copout excuse of "well, your family did it." and? don't mean i gotta follow.
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1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
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2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
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Vincent
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His reply directly mentions God. Stop trying to defend everything and make yourself out to be the noble one or the center of attention. The question was for Hendrickson and the need to defend is not present so take the great guardian cape off for once.
 
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we both agree on beliefs. you asked for opinion and you got it. you don't like it, there's the door. its discussion. anyone is open to reply.


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1x UCW Tag Team Champions - Southern Blood - Never lost them, longest reigning
3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
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9x World Champion [Eric 3 | Jay 2 | Lance 2 | Hector 2]
 
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Regardless of being Atheist or not, the God like figure is something we can still believe in, if even for a moment. I know I don't believe but when you run out of places to turn to, you can only look up and ask the man Himself to help you seek guidance. I know I've done it. The things Hendrickson is going through, maybe thats all he has left. Therefore, he mentions God directly in hopes for a better future. Being Atheist has nothing to do with believing when life has you down.
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Sunita Storm · Jun 16 2010, 03:51 PM
Nash told me what you said and that just makes me hate you. I've been in this longer than you and I know it's taboo to make fun of someone's roleplaying. I demand an apology or I report you!


Lol and he never got one.
 
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I am a free thinker really. I believe in God but not in the typical sense. These days I turn to him and ask him if he is punishing me for something I've done and so on and so forth. I believe in the teachings not necessarily the preachings churches do as they twist the words on God into what they need for their sheep to keep following.
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Nash
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Same thing here. I read the bible at my own leisure for discussion purposes with people but I'm not passionately into it like some people I know outside the net. My aunts... sheesh, it's like they wrote the book. They make me want to storm outta the room with so much talk about it. Like if they're the paranoid ones. Hey, I gotta have some fun at some point.


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1x UCW Television Champion - Eric - Never lost it
1x UCW Tag Team Champions - Southern Blood - Never lost them, longest reigning
3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
2x Most Improved - Eric Herrera [HVW | EWA]
9x World Champion [Eric 3 | Jay 2 | Lance 2 | Hector 2]
 
Vincent
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Ah ( to Hendrickson) so you believe in the authority of the Bible as being divine but do not believe in the manner in which it is taught to the masses by those who would take scripture out of context instead of reading it as it is stated in the Bible.

To Eric - you make essentially the same argument as the general masses of wanting to be what you want to be when you want to be and be the master of your own destiny. Many have made this argument. In fact there are several people in the Bible who use that same argument of why not to follow God.

To Dan - so the belief or non-belief of God for you ( at least, as you really should not speculate as to the nature of another's mindset ) is dependent upon the vicissitude of your life?
 
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To Vincent - Correct. I love the stories and the belief structure that the bible teaches. Teaches tolerance, forgiveness and such things I wish my wife would learn. I think sometimes the way the Bible is read it turns people against it as the context that the spoken words are given are not true to the written text.

"Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." - Corinthians 13:4-7

Sometimes we all have to have to endure our own path to find the divine that will lead us onto the right path. I believe that the struggle that myself, Eric and others have endured will lead to riches well beyond our expectations. I believe that these riches are not of monetary or physical possession but of emotional and soulful possession. We have to find to be lost for a while to be found.
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Nash
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Basically, yes. I will still discuss it with people cause of the curious researcher inside of me. (It's what got us to talk a lot.) But I don't believe in being paranoid / a bible thumper 24/7. I've yet to blast the bible thinking it's shit. Just when they force it / take it out of context. For me, it's like if someone had given me a story book and asked me to give feedback. I'll still discuss it and stuff just not half as into it as to take it daily use / memorize.
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3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
2x Most Improved - Eric Herrera [HVW | EWA]
9x World Champion [Eric 3 | Jay 2 | Lance 2 | Hector 2]
 
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Considering there was a lot of "maybes" in my post, you'd think I wasn't talking for the masses but rather the possibility it COULD have been a reason, and I myself have felt the same way in need to turn to God. You made such a point in reminding Hendrickson of being Atheist, I decided to make a point on the "so what" factor and list a reason that could have brought him in to the reasoning of God. So don't tell me I shouldn't be talking for the collective when you clearly lacked to even read my post thoroughly. Thank you.

As well, to answer your question. Thats a yes and no answer. There is a difference between hope and belief. I don't believe and I never really have. But when it comes to hoping something out there will help me, then yes I do hope and I always will.
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Sunita Storm · Jun 16 2010, 03:51 PM
Nash told me what you said and that just makes me hate you. I've been in this longer than you and I know it's taboo to make fun of someone's roleplaying. I demand an apology or I report you!


Lol and he never got one.
 
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You made such a point in reminding Hendrickson of being Atheist, I decided to make a point on the "so what" factor and list a reason that could have brought him in to the reasoning of God. So don't tell me I shouldn't be talking for the collective when you clearly lacked to even read my post thoroughly. Thank you.


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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you an atheist?


Oh my GOD! Dude you are so right! I mean look at my long drawn out statement, oh wait that's right it was a question. But it was said in a negative manner right? Oh that's right there are no connotations mentioned in it.

I read what the fuck you said dumbass. Take your bullshit and shove it up your wide little faggot loving ass. Everyone in this conversation was being cordial until you decided to post this crap. You want to get defensive because I ask a little question then you can step the fuck off BITCH! And to be quite frank I really don't care at this point who likes this post and who doesn't.

You are WAAAAAAAAAY out of line on this one and I hope you leave UCW to be quite frank and never return. If you cannot maintain a level of civility in replying to a simple question then you are no better than Rich. Although Rich does have the decency to at least admit when he has stepped out of line.

Dan Rock, you are a hypocrite like the rest of the relativist atheistic humanist in this world. One second you people will spout off about everyone having their own truth and to each their own and how we should try to be more understanding and the next second you are trying to summarize for someone else, whom you dont actually know on any kind of personal level, and then try to justify yourself for doing so.

What are we supposed to believe that you are the spokesman for the atheist of the world? You are so attuned to the atheist network that you can tell us everyone's mindset? I know Eric quite personally and I would not presume to know his mindset nor would I presume to know the mindset of anyone in my family.

In closing, I asked HENDRICKSON a simple question that was highly pertinent to the response he had made and rather than let the man answer for himself you felt the need to come jumping to his defense. IF you were such a good friend why weren't you around to try and help when UCW was struggling? No, instead you decided to bail off and try your own thing didn't you? Get off your soap box, and if anything I have said here offends you or pisses you off ...

guess what? .... I DONT GIVE A FUCK!

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next time you want to talk to me like that you should really consider 2 things, 1) who the fuck are you in this place? Eric and I are tight and he is the only one besides Hendrickson that can say they have done more for this place than me 2) if you don't think you would be willing to take an ass whipping for what you are saying then you might want to just shut the fuck up.
 
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He didn't help cause he told ME he wanted an LOA. I respected his wishes and allowed him cause I KNEW what was going on in his personal life. Dan Rock is my most loyal staff member that has followed me to seven forums and executed to perfection. So, I will not tolerate you telling him to leave... although I won't warn you cause you're entitled to your opinion. And I will not censor people. If they got something say, say it.
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1x UCW World Heavyweight Champion - Hector
1x UCW Southern Justice Champion - Hector - Longest Reigning
1x UCW Television Champion - Eric - Never lost it
1x UCW Tag Team Champions - Southern Blood - Never lost them, longest reigning
3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
2x Most Improved - Eric Herrera [HVW | EWA]
9x World Champion [Eric 3 | Jay 2 | Lance 2 | Hector 2]
 
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And by the way, I'm not sitting here saying I agree with either opinion. I'm just laying it out here that you wanted a debate and I'm letting it stand. I'm not a dictator nor will I go around closing threads. So, go nuts. Settle it however way you want... WITHOUT telling each other to leave.


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1x UCW World Heavyweight Champion - Hector
1x UCW Southern Justice Champion - Hector - Longest Reigning
1x UCW Television Champion - Eric - Never lost it
1x UCW Tag Team Champions - Southern Blood - Never lost them, longest reigning
3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
2x Most Improved - Eric Herrera [HVW | EWA]
9x World Champion [Eric 3 | Jay 2 | Lance 2 | Hector 2]
 
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I didnt want a fucking debate! I stated a personal problem, people stated their opinions. One was seemingly out of character for the individual as the impression had been left he was atheist so I inquired of it and suddenly everyone has to be the masked fucking crusader instead of just letting the man answer the fucking question.

When I state or ask something there is no hidden agenda, no secret message to fucking decode, it is what it is.

Its like I'm back at home surrounded by women. "What do you mean by that?" "What do you mean what do I mean? I mean what the fuck I said!"
 
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LOL okay lets go with what was wrong with this entire thing, because you're douchebagotry is relentless.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you an atheist?


There was the point. You pointed out that he was an Atheist. You made a point in asking. Don't say you didn't. If you didn't make a point in pointing it out, you wouldn't have said it. And knowing you from what I know of you so far [which seems to be the man who HAS to be right], you wanted to make sure of something just so if he answered with something like "yeah so?" you could be like "then you CAN'T believe in God you hypocrite blah blah blah. It was your impression towards me when we first met, you can't stand being wrong or someone having what you think is a "wrong" opinion. You just can't.

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Regardless of being Atheist or not, the God like figure is something we can still believe in, if even for a moment. I know I don't believe but when you run out of places to turn to, you can only look up and ask the man Himself to help you seek guidance. I know I've done it. The things Hendrickson is going through, maybe thats all he has left. Therefore, he mentions God directly in hopes for a better future. Being Atheist has nothing to do with believing when life has you down.


Now tell me, where was I flying off the handle there? Really, I wanna know. Where was I speaking for everyone? Like I said, you made a point and I went off the "so what" factor. Even if you were wrong and Hendrickson wasn't Atheist, it doesn't matter. He can mention God directly and indirectly all he wants. And I said maybe. MAYBE he feels like this. I could be wrong, but I wanted to join the conversation so I gave my two cents. Apparently thats a crime on this board. You wanna know where you really pushed the envelope though? Note I said YOU pushed the envelope. You wanted to keep going and you know you did. How do I know this?

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To Dan - so the belief or non-belief of God for you ( at least, as you really should not speculate as to the nature of another's mindset ) is dependent upon the vicissitude of your life
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Now, to most they would have disregarded the message because it was adressed to me, and many others who read it would have only focused on the "me" point, but you had to get that one shot in there. Politely anyways, but you had to get that "shut up and speak for yourself" shot in there, but say it nice enough that people would be like "he didn't do anything wrong." when really, you don't like my opinion. So what do I do? I retaliated. Was it a tad bit much? Sure, but you feel like driving points home in the "I'm right you're wrong" sense, I can do it too. But of course, you can't have another person with a mind of their own who actually doesn't like you here so what do you do? You tell me to leave like you're fucking God of this forum. Last I checked Vincent, you're member 22. I'm member 21 and Hendrickson is member numero uno. So in a sense, he's God here. Not you. So back the fuck up. And like Eric even said before if you don't like it. Theres the door. I have no problem coming back to talk. You on the other hand just want to bitch and tell everyone they're wrong. And you can't even argue that last point either. Last I checked, Eric tried to relate to Hendrickson's problems in life and you had to jump in and say "Actually Eric, you can't feel his pain since yours was a tad harsher and blah blah blah". Like fuck, nobody cares anymore Vince. Nobody.
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Sunita Storm · Jun 16 2010, 03:51 PM
Nash told me what you said and that just makes me hate you. I've been in this longer than you and I know it's taboo to make fun of someone's roleplaying. I demand an apology or I report you!


Lol and he never got one.
 
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1. I asked because it seemed odd since even Eric thought he was atheist
2. You don't know shit about me in efed world or in real life so don't even presume you can begin to guess my mind frame
3. You didn't go off the handle on that Forrest Gump, your nxt post did which you admitted to in your own reply so you make my pt for me moron
4. I was trying to be polite & tell you to speak for yourself. Others have instructed me to play nice. I vowed in '07 that I would but your playing with fire.
5. Member numbers mean shit. You ain't done squat for this place. I can say what I want here because of what I have given to this fed.
6. As for the "tad harsher" shit you need to shut the fuck up, & learn to read. I said you really can't relate until you have children and they are taken from you do to a break-up. I ain't seen my daughter since she was a few weeks old! A TAD harsher? Are you fucking kidding me? And I'm the. Douchebag?
7. Since you are the great Dan Rock & know how everyone feels & thinks tally em up on this thread.

Who in the UCW forums does not care about the situation I went & am going through with my daughter?
Who want me to leave UCW?
 
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*Looks at first post.*

Last I checked with was about you pursuing your travel as a true Christian.

But I for one don't care about your children because you probably don't deserve them. Self righteous assholes like yourself rarely do.You talk down to everyone because you believe you are higher then everyone. You talk down to those who won't kiss your ass. And you think you're right 24/7. You're not. And from my perspective, you rarely are.
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Sunita Storm · Jun 16 2010, 03:51 PM
Nash told me what you said and that just makes me hate you. I've been in this longer than you and I know it's taboo to make fun of someone's roleplaying. I demand an apology or I report you!


Lol and he never got one.
 
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Dan Rock does mean something to UCW as do you. He was my most loyal staff member till he LOA'd. He followed me from PWE to UCW. He booked the first 4 cards with me. He was Joey Stallion back then.


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UCW Hall of Fame 2012 - Only Handler Inductee
1x UCW World Heavyweight Champion - Hector
1x UCW Southern Justice Champion - Hector - Longest Reigning
1x UCW Television Champion - Eric - Never lost it
1x UCW Tag Team Champions - Southern Blood - Never lost them, longest reigning
3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
2x Most Improved - Eric Herrera [HVW | EWA]
9x World Champion [Eric 3 | Jay 2 | Lance 2 | Hector 2]
 
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And Dan, that was taking it too far. This wasn't a personal conversation. This was a mere discussion. Calm down, both of you.


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1x UCW Southern Justice Champion - Hector - Longest Reigning
1x UCW Television Champion - Eric - Never lost it
1x UCW Tag Team Champions - Southern Blood - Never lost them, longest reigning
3x UCW Television Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez
1x UCW Women's Champion - Nikki Monroe managed by Veronica Rodriguez - Never lost it
1x UCW Women's Champion - Brandy Danielle trained by Eric Herrera
2x Tag Team of the Year - Southern Blood - UCW | MCW
1x UCW Feud of the Year - Frostbite versus Dave Brickheart versus Eric Herrera
2x Cruiserweight of the Year - Eric Herrera [2006 | 2007]
4x Hall of Fame - Eric Herrera [UHW | HCW | UCW | XPW]
2x Most Improved - Eric Herrera [HVW | EWA]
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Vincent
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I am sorry but as of right now you need to find a new council member Eric. You and I are still cool but I dont see myself in a fed that has someone that can actually go that far and think it is called for in any manner.

I responded to the debate in a civil manner, countering each point made in the post, and in the order it was made and the most intellegible response that can be given is to try and claim I dont deserve my daughter? I aint got the time for this anymore. I have been working on changing who I was and being the nice guy and dealing with past issues so I dont need this. Rather than continue to put myself in a situation that leads me to go down that path I am going to walk away from it.

congratulations dan, I guess in a sense you got what you wanted, bye.
 
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Lol really? See what I mean? I didn't go personal with this. This never started out as a person attack until you adress shit to me. Then it got personal. Now you're leaving because I gave yet another opinion? This one you asked for again upfront? Thats not debating in a civil manner. Thats losing and not willing to admit it. You quit and can say "I didn't lose. I just walked away so there was nothing to lose."

I guess some people just can't take reality. Some people just can't handle the fact that they aren't the center of attention [or of attention that isn't phrasing them like a God.] But I guess I can thank you. You've proven me right.
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Sunita Storm · Jun 16 2010, 03:51 PM
Nash told me what you said and that just makes me hate you. I've been in this longer than you and I know it's taboo to make fun of someone's roleplaying. I demand an apology or I report you!


Lol and he never got one.
 
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And consider this closed. I am sorry Vincent this got out of control. Eric and Dan lets let this be. Vincent has said his piece and he wants to wash his hands clean. Lets let the man leave please.
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