Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers

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Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers; There are some good fights on this card
Topic Started: Nov 4 2009, 12:23 PM (444 Views)
XHockeyDad	Nov 4 2009, 12:23 PM Post #1
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	I am so bored with the Fedor vs Rogers angle...Yeah, Rogers is from Minnesota, but a punchers chance is what he has.... But looking at the rest of the card....there are some truly good fights on here... Strikeforce Middleweight Championship Jake Shields (No. 4 WW) vs. Jason �Mayhem� Miller Fedor Emelianenko (No. 1 HW, No. 3 PFP) vs. Brett Rogers (No. 6 HW) Gegard Mousasi (No. 7 LHW) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Antonio Silva vs. Fabricio Werdum Jeff Curran vs. Dustin Neace Roxanne Modafferi vs. Marloes Coenen Mark Miller vs. Deray Davis Shamar Bailey vs. John Kolosci Louis Taylor vs. Nate Moore Christian Uflacker vs. Jonatas Novaes Miller vs Shields is as good a fight as you will ever find...Mousasi vs Sokoudjou will be another great one. Free MMA on a Saturday night....can't complain!!
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CropDuster	Nov 4 2009, 08:57 PM Post #2
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PSchilling	Nov 4 2009, 09:45 PM Post #3
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XHockeyDad	Nov 5 2009, 09:08 AM Post #4
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	Shields has just been unbeatable lately...I wonder if Miller will have an answer for him...
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


Cactus Twist	Nov 5 2009, 05:35 PM Post #5
Fanatic Posts: 557 Group: Die Hard Member #4,327 Joined: January 9, 2006	XHockeyDad Nov 5 2009, 09:08 AM Shields has just been unbeatable lately...I wonder if Miller will have an answer for him... I hope Mayhem won't be too upset about getting beat to let Shields go on Bully Beatdown anymore...
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XHockeyDad	Nov 6 2009, 08:08 AM Post #6
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	Yeah, I think Shields will beat him, I am just wondering how though? I think it will go the distance...should be an exciting fight.
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


JohnnyD	Nov 6 2009, 08:44 AM Post #7
Fanatic Posts: 517 Group: Die Hard Member #4,394 Joined: January 12, 2006	Shields....not easily, but somewhat systematically .....
	"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand.........I just beat people up."--Muhammad Ali "Its not what we dont know that gets us into trouble. Its what we know for sure, that just aint so."--Mark Twain "I like a man who grins when he fights."--Sir Winston Churchill "The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shoosh."--The Stranger


XHockeyDad	Nov 6 2009, 01:20 PM Post #8
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	Predictions? Fedor by arm bar 1 minute and 30 seconds into the first round.. Shields over Miller by Unanimous decision. Mousasi over Sokoudjou by RNC 3:30 first round Werdum over Antonio Silva by choke in 2:30 second round
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


JohnnyD	Nov 7 2009, 04:12 PM Post #9
Fanatic Posts: 517 Group: Die Hard Member #4,394 Joined: January 12, 2006	Verdum Via Unanimous Mousasi Via arm bar in the 2nd(4:00) Shields Via choke in the 1st(3:00) Rogers Via TKO in the 1st(4:00)..........Gotta support the homeland
	"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand.........I just beat people up."--Muhammad Ali "Its not what we dont know that gets us into trouble. Its what we know for sure, that just aint so."--Mark Twain "I like a man who grins when he fights."--Sir Winston Churchill "The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shoosh."--The Stranger


JohnnyD	Nov 7 2009, 08:36 PM Post #10
Fanatic Posts: 517 Group: Die Hard Member #4,394 Joined: January 12, 2006	nailed the first one
	"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand.........I just beat people up."--Muhammad Ali "Its not what we dont know that gets us into trouble. Its what we know for sure, that just aint so."--Mark Twain "I like a man who grins when he fights."--Sir Winston Churchill "The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shoosh."--The Stranger


brdhntr	Nov 7 2009, 10:28 PM Post #11
Fantastic Posts: 1,310 Group: Fantastic Member #6,611 Joined: November 25, 2006	Fedor is wise not to fight Brock. He had his hands full with a very mediocre fighter. His ability to draw pay checks fighting crushed tomato cans will come to an end. These announcers tonight couldn't possibly have their noses any deeper. They were almost intolerable.



wrestler1095	Nov 7 2009, 10:29 PM Post #12
Super Fan Posts: 120 Group: Die Hard Member #10,837 Joined: February 17, 2008	Can you say... KTFO?! Dang I thought Rogers had it for a while.



bob	Nov 7 2009, 10:33 PM Post #13
Fantastic Posts: 3,524 Group: Fantastic Member #3,759 Joined: November 20, 2005	brdhntr Nov 7 2009, 10:28 PM Fedor is wise not to fight Brock. He had his hands full with a very mediocre fighter. His ability to draw pay checks fighting crushed tomato cans will come to an end. These announcers tonight couldn't possibly have their noses any deeper. They were almost intolerable. Yeah I almost puked from hearing greatest fighter ever to live so many times.
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PSchilling	Nov 7 2009, 11:05 PM Post #14
Fanatic Posts: 939 Group: Die Hard Member #3,310 Joined: July 20, 2005	That was a tough loss. It wasn't the steamroll many expected. Brett did a great job keeping it on the feet, but Fedor timed the knockout punch perfectly. As unbiased as I can be, I think Brett may have won that first round. I read that it was the first fight of Fedor's to go into the second round since 2000. Definitely impressed with his effort, and I'm excited to see him back in the gym preparing for the next one soon! Nobody Brett fights will be tougher than this one!
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deedsnotwords	Nov 8 2009, 07:19 AM Post #15
Fanatic Posts: 815 Group: Die Hard Member #8,977 Joined: August 10, 2007	PSchilling Nov 7 2009, 11:05 PM That was a tough loss. It wasn't the steamroll many expected. Brett did a great job keeping it on the feet, but Fedor timed the knockout punch perfectly. As unbiased as I can be, I think Brett may have won that first round. I read that it was the first fight of Fedor's to go into the second round since 2000. Definitely impressed with his effort, and I'm excited to see him back in the gym preparing for the next one soon! Nobody Brett fights will be tougher than this one! Fedor has had a bunch of fights go past the first round. Probably around 10 fights since 2000 have gone past the first round. Last one was against Mark Coleman in 2006
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PSchilling	Nov 8 2009, 06:19 PM Post #16
Fanatic Posts: 939 Group: Die Hard Member #3,310 Joined: July 20, 2005	My mistake. I must have read a similar statistic.
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XHockeyDad	Nov 9 2009, 08:50 AM Post #17
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	Fedor = overrated. I think he should stay in Strikeforce...just for his own safety. There was abosolutely nothing that impresed me about Fedor on Saturday....He would be beaten by ANYONE from the top 5 currently fighting in the UFC...Even Mir could give him a run.
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


Sharkey	Nov 9 2009, 08:06 PM Post #18
Fantastic Posts: 4,466 Group: Fantastic Member #9 Joined: December 23, 2004	Good fight. Fedor had some nice ground work in the first round. I like to see the big guys doing some jiu-jitsu which is just one of the many reasons I like Fedor. I think the fight lived up to it's billing. Rogers only chance was a big punch or if the ref would have let him hold the cage even longer. I thought "Big John" must have had instructions from the promoters to keep Rogers in it. Then when he stopped the fight early, I guessed I was wrong. I know Fedor rocked him pretty good with that punch, but I thought Rogers was still defending himself. I also thought it was a little funny after the fight when they were asking both guys how the knock-out punch happened. I mean really, whenever a heavyweight starts bouncing around the center of the octagon with both hands dangling down by his waist, the fight isn't going last much longer. Normally I'm too cheap to buy pay-per-view, but I think I'd spend the money to see Lesnar-Fedor. Fedor is obviously better and I'd expect him to win, but Lesnar comes into every fight so well prepared for the opponent, that I think it would be a pretty even fight.
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XHockeyDad	Nov 10 2009, 08:10 AM Post #19
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	Sharkey, I am not sure how you could say "Fedor is obviously better"....let's put it into perspective....How do you think Brock would have done against Rogers? After watching this fight, I am absolutely positive that ANY of the top 5 heavyweights in the UFC would absolutely beat Fedor....Fedor and his management know this...that is why they didn't except the muliti million dollar contract that was being offered to him...Fedor will NEVER fight in the UFC....just because he knows he will fail miserably.
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


usc09	Nov 10 2009, 08:38 AM Post #20
Super Fan Posts: 243 Group: Die Hard Member #3,045 Joined: April 22, 2005	Xhockey, I'm not sure how you can say absolutely the top 5 hwys in the UFC would beat Fedor??? Fedor has beaten everyone that has been put in front of him and because his people don't accept Dana's control he's chicken?? That fight was stopped at the right time as; Fedor even stayed back a bit. Fedor beats Rogers everytime. How anyone cannot be impressed with a guy that small and unassumming destroying heavies is beyond me. Having said that, I think Brock beats Fedor by smothering him in the most boring fight in history...



XHockeyDad	Nov 10 2009, 09:48 AM Post #21
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	Because, usc09, I refuse to buy into the hype...What during the Fedor vs Rogers fight impresed you most....his awkward footwork, or his untechnical striking.... Name someone from Fedor 6 last fights that impresses you. If people would have watched the fight with the volume off this weekend, I am sure they would have come to the same conclusion. Comparing Fedor to Tiger Woods and Wayne Gretzky is absolutely ridiculous. Dana's control? He offered him a multi million dollar contract...guarenteed money...no win incentives. Do you think Strikeforce paid him that much? Let me answer that for you....absolutely not.
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


usc09	Nov 10 2009, 10:10 AM Post #22
Super Fan Posts: 243 Group: Die Hard Member #3,045 Joined: April 22, 2005	What impressed me is that he won again with one of the biggest haymakers ever (untechnical?? maybe in your world, but effective).... I love how all the heavies that Fedor beats are worthless even though they were highly regarded when he fought them.... I've heard all the crap arguments that fit the anti-fedor people but the facts are he has beaten everyone put infront of him and he destroys anyone but Brock in the UFC and it's a better match-up with Brock if it's not in a boring ass cage. Sorry Hockey, I bought into the hype a long time ago when Randelman dropped Fedor on his head. Sorry to break it to you but Fedor doesn't need any money so why does he have to give into dana because it's a lot of money (for me and you I assume)? I don't know what they're looking for but I highly doubt it's because he's chicken. The UFC's getting boring with there has-been cards and Fedor's people know it (if you don't have Silva-GSP-Brock fighting nobody cares).



XHockeyDad	Nov 10 2009, 10:43 AM Post #23
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	OMG, I can not believe you are suggesting Randleman is a fighter....If you watched ANY of his last 6 fights..Nedkov,Whitehead, Kawamura, Rua, Focamis, or Nakamura,...watch any of these fights and then tell me about Randleman being a fighter....Nedkov and him got a 2 yellow cards and a finally a red for total and absolute inactivity during the last Sengoku. He threw a total of 5 punches in his last fight... Fedor has fought nobody....end of story.... As much as I dislike Dana, what was he supposed to do? He offered him a multi-million dollar contract and he turned it down? What a joke, what a coward.
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


XHockeyDad	Nov 10 2009, 10:50 AM Post #24
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	There is one person Fedor can not run from...and that is Alistair Overeem...Overeem IS the best heavyweight on the planet...bar non....
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


usc09	Nov 10 2009, 10:56 AM Post #25
Super Fan Posts: 243 Group: Die Hard Member #3,045 Joined: April 22, 2005	OMG!!! settle down, It has nothing to do with Randleman... it's what happened in that fight that I became a fan; the guy is dangerous... OK, Fedor has fought nobody (although far more than Brock)and dana's done everything possible because that's a number anyone should do anything for (like I said, I don't know what he's loooking for but likely that fight would be the biggest ever and dana makes out pretty well)... can't argue with end of story! Fedor keeps destroying heavies but until he fights a guy 150pds bigger named brock he's no one. The fight with Brock would suck anyway so I'm not sure what everyone here gets so wound up about. Edited by usc09, Nov 10 2009, 11:00 AM.



emu_1	Nov 10 2009, 07:50 PM Post #26
Fanatic Posts: 583 Group: Die Hard Member #3,048 Joined: April 25, 2005	XHockeyDad Nov 10 2009, 10:50 AM There is one person Fedor can not run from...and that is Alistair Overeem...Overeem IS the best heavyweight on the planet...bar non.... I haven't seen Overeem fight in a year or so, if/when this fight happens that will affect him significantly, people are forgetting that Fedor had some serious time off too, there are/will be cob webs to shake off. As for who is better, I wouldn't bet on the fight because I don't think either one has a hands down advantage... I think Overeem is an absolute machine, but he'd likely fail a steroid test if he fights any time in the real near future, I would put money on that. I'd pick AO in a unanimous decision I guess, and I'd pick either one by Sub over Lesnar.
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emu_1	Nov 10 2009, 07:52 PM Post #27
Fanatic Posts: 583 Group: Die Hard Member #3,048 Joined: April 25, 2005	usc09 Nov 10 2009, 10:56 AM OMG!!! settle down, It has nothing to do with Randleman... it's what happened in that fight that I became a fan; the guy is dangerous... OK, Fedor has fought nobody (although far more than Brock)and dana's done everything possible because that's a number anyone should do anything for (like I said, I don't know what he's loooking for but likely that fight would be the biggest ever and dana makes out pretty well)... can't argue with end of story! Fedor keeps destroying heavies but until he fights a guy 150pds bigger named brock he's no one. The fight with Brock would suck anyway so I'm not sure what everyone here gets so wound up about. If Fedor fought someone 150 lbs heavier than him, they would weigh about 385 lb...??? are you indicating that you think Lesnar weighs 385 ? Brock is no one at this point, and people should really understand that he's 4-1, Fedor is 31-1, 32 fights and one loss due to a stoppage because of a cut- THAT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN--- ITS STRAIGHT UP GUTS, WORK ETHIC AND GOD GIVEN TALENT!!! Brock would get sub'd by Alistair Overeem, or Fedor, neither of which we will probably ever see. Overeem is possible, but not very likely. Lesnar is an absolute beast, and would beat most HWT's out there, but you will see him lose in the near future, it will be JDS, in my opinion, but he's not as good as everyone gives him credit for. He will NEVER live up to the hype. Edited by emu_1, Nov 10 2009, 07:58 PM.
	~The key to survival is adaptation... this is why the coyote will never die. ~"Go faster, I don't wanna limp away from this." ~~WE OWN THE NIGHT~~ johosophat31- " want asik to try and tell me not to save seats i'll show him some balls...or nads if you will "


emu_1	Nov 10 2009, 08:12 PM Post #28
Fanatic Posts: 583 Group: Die Hard Member #3,048 Joined: April 25, 2005	usc09- you OBVIOUSLY don't follow MMA either, because Fedor has fought WAAAAY tougher comp. then your beloved Brock... - Arlovski - Coleman (in his prime) - Randleman - Cro Cop(litteraly at the peak of his career) - Noguiera (in his prime) - Hunt Fedor has more wins against STIFF competition than Lesnar has fights.
	~The key to survival is adaptation... this is why the coyote will never die. ~"Go faster, I don't wanna limp away from this." ~~WE OWN THE NIGHT~~ johosophat31- " want asik to try and tell me not to save seats i'll show him some balls...or nads if you will "


JohnnyD	Nov 10 2009, 09:46 PM Post #29
Fanatic Posts: 517 Group: Die Hard Member #4,394 Joined: January 12, 2006	usc09 Nov 10 2009, 10:56 AM The fight with Brock would suck anyway so I'm not sure what everyone here gets so wound up about. Boring to you maybe, but no fight would make me more excited than watching Brock frieght train Fedors ass across the ring.....then cradle his pudgy face while he feeds him XXXL leather........... All the looks on the faces of the Fedor clapping seal parade....haha.........priceless Edited by JohnnyD, Nov 10 2009, 09:47 PM.
	"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand.........I just beat people up."--Muhammad Ali "Its not what we dont know that gets us into trouble. Its what we know for sure, that just aint so."--Mark Twain "I like a man who grins when he fights."--Sir Winston Churchill "The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shoosh."--The Stranger


XHockeyDad	Nov 11 2009, 08:12 AM Post #30
Fantastic Posts: 2,440 Group: Fantastic Member #3,093 Joined: May 10, 2005	JohnnyD Nov 10 2009, 09:46 PM All the looks on the faces of the Fedor clapping seal parade....haha.........priceless Clapping seal parade....what a perfect way to describe those commie a$$ clowns....What's with those two bearded ladies that looked like twins that were hugging him like Fedor was there long lost dad....They look like they are the result of a tube experiment going bad.
	"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. "-- Thomas Paine "Live Strong, Speak Truth, Dream Big" -- Evan Tanner 1971-2008 Rest in Peace" "Demian Maia might be the Fred Astaire of jiu-jitsu. It�s too bad Silva is the Gene Kelly of kicking everyone�s butt" "Lyoto Machida is a dbag for not admitting he lost against shogun."XHD


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