Disabled and Others Turned Away from Faith Affiliated Public Housing

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Disabled and Others Turned Away from Faith Affiliated Public Housing
Topic Started: Aug 30 2016, 11:21 AM (198 Views)
friendshipgal	Aug 30 2016, 11:21 AM Post #1
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	I think this is a consumer issue, or a rant, not sure :)- either way this popped up on my FB page, it wasn't until later I saw the date was last year. Either way I don't recall hearing about it, now that I have I find it pretty disgusting that even though we have a constitution and human rights etc. publicly subsidized housing can be faith based which means they can legally turn people away who have been on a wait list for a long time. People including the disabled are being turned down for public housing in a building which is for Muslims only, that`s just for one particular sect. but it could be any religion. Apparently it`s legal and it could be the same for other religions or groups. I didn’t think they could discriminate in taxpayer subsidized housing but they can and do. I would be just as shocked if it were any other group or religion, http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/woman-upset-after-being-turned-away-from-faith-affiliated-social-housing-building-1.2533277 http://globalnews.ca/news/2185359/toronto-man-denied-subsidized-housing-for-not-being-muslim/ https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/08/26/disabled-man-told-subsidized-housing-is-for-muslims-only.html Edited by friendshipgal, Aug 30 2016, 11:23 AM.



Kahu	Aug 30 2016, 02:46 PM Post #2
Posts: 31,109 Group: Administration Member #150 Joined: December 14, 2005	friendshipgal Aug 30 2016, 11:21 AM ,,,, we have a constitution and human rights etc. publicly subsidized housing can be faith based which means they can legally turn people away who have been on a wait list for a long time. People including the disabled are being turned down for public housing in a building which is for Muslims only, that`s just for one particular sect. but it could be any religion. I have to agree with you. IMHO that's the way ghettos are created making problems for the future. Public housing is for the public.



friendshipgal	Aug 31 2016, 04:58 AM Post #3
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Exactly. I just can't believe it's allowed but I haven't found any follow up or discussions about it anywhere. It's not just promoting ghettos but it's about the fairness of those long wait lists for gov't housing. Kicking off disabled people and others to do this is unacceptable.



Trotsky	Sep 1 2016, 01:34 AM Post #4
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Words cannot express my disgust for the way laws are bent to the will of religious radicals. The next church that puts it's snout in the public trough should be slammed with full real estate taxes on its property and full corporate income tax on its profits. Let them avoid taxes the way most corporations do, by taking their operations overseas.



friendshipgal	Sep 1 2016, 03:17 AM Post #5
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Trotsky Sep 1 2016, 01:34 AM Words cannot express my disgust for the way laws are bent to the will of religious radicals. The next church that puts it's snout in the public trough should be slammed with full real estate taxes on its property and full corporate income tax on its profits. Let them avoid taxes the way most corporations do, by taking their operations overseas. How can a religious house take itself overseas... The do pay income tax on any earnings or profit, the only taxes they don't pay are property taxes, which I don't have a big problem with as long as they stay out of politics and stick to their religious duties. Generally speaking Churches et al do a lot of good charitable work to help others, that is the reason they are given a property tax exemption. If they rent out part of their building for day cares or whatever then they have to pay tax on that income. This issue isn't about that though, it's about discrimination in public housing which in Ontario is against the law so I'm not sure how it's allowed. It still doesn't make sense because they get public funding, how are the following the OHR code... http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/woman-upset-after-being-turned-away-from-faith-affiliated-social-housing-building-1.2533277 A council-approved mandate allows social housing providers in Toronto to restrict their units to residents belonging to a specific ethnic or religious group so long as the provider can prove the Ontario Human Rights Code is being followed. "Part of fairness and equity in our housing unit is having a diverse range of housing options to service everybody," said TCHC board member and Coun. Joe Cressy. "If you're a senior, a person of a different background, whether you’re Chinese or German or Hungarian or a Christian or Muslim, we should have options that service you."



Trotsky	Sep 1 2016, 03:22 AM Post #6
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Quote: How can a religious house take itself overseas One stone at a time. Quote: This issue isn't about that though, it's about discrimination in public housing which in Ontario is against the law so I'm not sure how it's allowed. Criminally, as I implied.



friendshipgal	Sep 1 2016, 03:32 AM Post #7
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Trotsky Sep 1 2016, 03:22 AM Quote: How can a religious house take itself overseas One stone at a time. Quote: This issue isn't about that though, it's about discrimination in public housing which in Ontario is against the law so I'm not sure how it's allowed. Criminally, as I implied. It is not criminally, they are given an exemption by city council to this and other faith based bldgs. As far as I'm concerned it's about bending over backwards to accommodate various groups which I guess over rides the Human Rights Code. http://globalnews.ca/news/2187517/toronto-city-councillor-says-muslim-only-subsidized-housing-is-acceptable/ The McClintock Manor on Pape Avenue is geared to “Christian seniors.” Under the “mandate” adopted by Toronto city council in 2002, a total of eight residences are geared to targeted groups, including buildings that house those of Macedonian, Chinese, Lithuanian and Greek backgrounds. In a statement defending its practice, the city says the provisions do not violate human rights laws. “The City’s mandate policy allows social housing providers to restrict their housing to individuals belonging to an identifiable ethnic or religious group if specific conditions are met,” the statement reads. Edited by friendshipgal, Sep 1 2016, 03:32 AM.



Trotsky	Sep 1 2016, 04:33 AM Post #8
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Do Canadian Catholic schools get federal or provincial aid of any kind?



haili	Sep 1 2016, 05:39 AM Post #9
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,083 Group: Member Member #387 Joined: September 15, 2006	You can choose to have the education portion of property tax go to either public or Catholic schools in Ont., which isn't really fair to other religions and some provinces have opted to just have it go to public schools which makes the most sense to me. Those wanting religious education should get it after school in their own place or worship and at their own expense.



friendshipgal	Sep 1 2016, 06:28 AM Post #10
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Trotsky Sep 1 2016, 04:33 AM Do Canadian Catholic schools get federal or provincial aid of any kind? In Ontario they are fully funded to Grade 12... not fair to other religions and discriminatory but no one has the guts to try and dismantle it. Just ask John Tory when he ran as leader of the Ontario PC party, people wanted no part of funding other religions. He thought it was just being equitable and fair. The fair thing to do would be to quit paying for the RCs. I think there are 7 provinces still paying for separate schools to Grade 9, I think the others have separate RC schools but not funding. Not positive. Haili: I'm pretty sure they did away with selecting where your taxes go, now they just fund the whole thing. Edited by friendshipgal, Sep 1 2016, 06:29 AM.



Delphi51	Sep 1 2016, 08:16 AM Post #11
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	The prairie provinces are required to fully fund Catholic school boards. Quebec insisted On this in 1905 when the new provinces were created by an amendment to the BNA Act (constitution). There are some religious school boards failing to implement Alberta's mandatory LGBTQ inclusiveness guidelines. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. No mention of what Moslem schools are doing. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/school-board-won-t-submit-lgbtq-policy-defying-alberta-government-1.3454995 Edited by Delphi51, Sep 1 2016, 08:16 AM.



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