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My Foundation Is Leaking After A Big Melt
Topic Started: Dec 28 2016, 07:22 AM (1,617 Views)
Trotsky
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Finally, know this truth. You may not like it, but it is true. There is no such thing as a basement that won't get water! Some will flood and some will get minor seepage, but EVERY basement will get water.


I beg to differ, the home I sold (inherited fromparents, never got a drop of water.It was s row home (that helps) made of brick with a stone and mud/mortar foundation that never took on a drop of water (or even dampness until I installed a shower in the cellar.) Home was built in 1873
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Jan 14 2017, 08:12 AM
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Finally, know this truth. You may not like it, but it is true. There is no such thing as a basement that won't get water! Some will flood and some will get minor seepage, but EVERY basement will get water.


I beg to differ. the home I sold (inherited from parents) never took on a drop of water. It was a row home (that helps) made of brick with a stone and mud/mortar foundation, feet thick, that never took on a drop of water into the basement in front at street level, cellar in back completely underground (or even dampness until I installed a shower.) Home was built in 1873. I sold it in 1995.
I should have kept it but the block was being "busted" and turned into a Latin ghetto.
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Hi! Wildie

I got your point about the possible financial costs. You have mentioned it several times. And, I agree that the prices or cost estimates were amazingly high.

But, in my mind, anything over 5 thousand bucks is sort of a waste of money to me.

If I am gonna spend any more than 5000 bucks to do some patch job, then I am gonna spend the 40 or 50 thousand to build me a new basement and put an apartment in the basement. Generate some income to pay for the investment.

As it stands now, I think I can solve my immediate problem for about a thousand bucks.

I got a guy coming to install a water pressure driven sump pump as my back up sump pump in case my power goes off.
http://www.tanecorp.com
(YouTube Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8jAWAZ6TyY

And I am also going to replace the electric sump pump, (which is operating perfectly fine right now), simply because I feel like it. The probable cost of that installed is about 200 bucks or so.
http://www.flotecpump.com/ResidentialProduct_fl_su_su_FPPM3600D.aspx

And, I am gonna buy 4 of those "Puddle Pumps" which I mentioned earlier. 100 bucks each.
http://maxflopump.com/pump_product.asp?index=39501

So, for $1,100.00 I am off to the races.

Calm
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I got a guy coming to install a water pressure driven sump pump as my back up sump pump in case my power goes off.

And I am also going to replace the electric sump pump, (which is operating perfectly fine right now), simply because I feel like it. The probable cost of that installed is about 200 bucks or so.

And, I am gonna buy 4 of those "Puddle Pumps" which I mentioned earlier. 100 bucks each.

So, for $1,100.00 I am off to the races.

Calm


I assume that your water supply comes from the municipality? Otherwise if you would need electricity to pump from a well.
Im unfamiliar with a water driven pump. Must be some sort of venturi? I have worked with deep well pumps where water from a tank is forced down a pipe in the well and then it picks up more water when it returns to the surface. In this case, a water tank with water in it, is required to initiate the draw!
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Hi! Wildie

Yeh! Water is municipal supply.

First time for me too with water pressured pumps.
http://www.tanecorp.com

But, it seems that they are quite reliable and with many happy customers and comments. The expert knew what I was talking about as well.

Calm
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Jan 14 2017, 05:59 PM
Hi! Wildie

Yeh! Water is municipal supply.

First time for me too with water pressured pumps.
http://www.tanecorp.com

But, it seems that they are quite reliable and with many happy customers and comments. The expert knew what I was talking about as well.

Calm
A very interesting concept! The installation page ( http://www.tanecorp.com/Water_Commander_backup_sump_pump_installation_considerations.html ) makes good reading. As I supposed its a venturi system and is powered when municipal water is allowed to flow when its turned on by a float in the sump.

A back-flow preventer is requied to avoid contamination of your drinking water in the house.
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Hi! Wildie

I found some new type of Puddle Pump set up today....

115 Volt Mini-Vac Pump, with Handle
Multi-Purpose Pumps (MPFV12, MPFVK115)
http://redlionproducts.com/multi-purpose/multi-purpose-pumps-(mpfv12,-mpfvk115)

This is the one which I was viewing a few days ago.

Myers Utility Pumps Multi-Purpose Utility Pump with Puddle Attachment MES106
http://maxflopump.com/pump_product.asp?index=39501

This is info about the "Attachment"
Pud-L-ScoopTM No. FP000349A
http://pumpbiz.com/pud-l-scoop-kit-fp000349a

Edited by Calm, Jan 16 2017, 10:32 AM.
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During this past week my basement leaking has been totally solved and repaired.

As you may recall, I endured a catastrophic weather event of torrential rains in August 2016 and my basement flooded with about 200 gallons of water. At one point there was even water entering my basement though the floor drain.

I live in an old part of the city and in an old house.

And I dump all water/sewer leaving my house into a single "Combination" city owned sewer pipe at the street.

Unknown to me, the amount of rain which fell was too great for the city owned sewer lines to handle and thus the water leaving my home was not able to enter the street sewer line. I believe that because of this the P-Trap leaving my home became partially plugged.

In the fall of 2016, I suffered another weather event of rain and a huge snow melt because of the rain. It was this event which had me rush into these forums and ask for help.

Water was entering my home from around the foundation.

My sump pump was able keep up to the water entering the sump pump well, and the water was being pumped/discharged from the well into a pipe outdoors and which fed into the combination city owned sewer lines at the street.

Unknown to me, the outdoor pipe containing the sump pump discharge water was broken/cracked.

All the water being discharged by the sump pump was actually entering the ground right next to my house. I was just recycling the discharged sump pump water over and over.

Because of this, the weeping tile surrounding my foundation was unable to drain into the sump pump well. The sump pump discharge was leaking into the ground from the broken pipe and overwhelming the normal water flow through the weeping tiles.

It was a lot of work for me to use a wet and dry vacuum to suck up the small puddles of water throughout my basement. Hours and hours of wiping the wet and dry vacuum hose across the floor by hand.

Then, in January, a third major weather event happened and which was just after I had purchased 4 puddle pumps to assist me with water removal rather than vacuum.

It was during this last weather event that I was able to confirm or highly suspect that the sump pump discharge line was broken under my front yard.

So, I hired an excavator and a plumber to expose the sewer line leaving my house. It was about 5 or 6 feet below ground. I had an access valve installed and found out that the P-Trap was plugged up a bit.

In addition, I found out that the sump pump discharge line was broken. A new sump pump discharge pipe had to be installed and hooked up to the combination sewer/water line leaving my home in order to enter the city owned street sewer lines.

It cost me 17 hundred for the excavator and another 600 for the plumber.

And problem seems to be totally solved. Plus, I also purchased a backup sump pump in case the electrical power goes out during a rainstorm in the future.

There is one final bit of advice I would like to give to anybody reading this thread .....

As I mentioned earlier, I had purchased 4 puddle pumps at about 125 bucks each.

115 Volt Mini-Vac Pump, with Handle
Red Lion Multi-Purpose Pumps - MPFVK115 - 360GPH - 1363LPH
http://www.redlionproducts.com/multi-purpose/multi-purpose-pumps-(mpfv12,-mpfvk115)

These pumps work well, but the little plastic propellers used to pump the water break quite easily if you are not carefull and run the pump dry or start the pump without priming it first. They are very expensive and hard to find in stock in local stores. It took a week or more to have them on hand. 20 bucks each, too, and I blew though 4 of them during one storm while I was learning the tricks.

Calm
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Glad you got it resolved, nothing worse than water woe headaches and the continual sleepless nights. Some things the average person can fix or apply a band aid solution for the interim. Other times you need professional help, expensive but worth it in the end.
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I give thanks for being 150 feet above the sidewalk.

Glad you are high and dry now Calm, even if it was at a high cost. You are now our resident expert on basement drainage.
Edited by Trotsky, Mar 14 2017, 01:19 AM.
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