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Prescription count!
Topic Started: Jan 9 2017, 12:25 PM (380 Views)
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My son has been on opiates for back pain for 10 years. He decided a couple months ago he wanted off of them, it's been a journey but he's doing well. He picked up his script at Safeway on Friday, and being that it was a month's supply counted them. He was 8 short, a few previous scripts have been minus a couple pills but he said nothing. Decreasing he's not using the full script, however I encouraged him to call the pharmacy, as someone is obviously "using" the pills. He said I know who it is, as one time I heard her ask if her morphine script was ready! She's a pharmacy tech., and was working the day, as well as two pharmacists. He called, pharmacist said J had filled the script and said I will call you back. She did within 10 minutes, told him this girl had admitted taking them! Pharmacist asked if he wanted to lay charges, he said No, as he didn't want her to lose her job, as he felt this would only worsen her predicament. Pharmacist then asked if he wanted an apology, he said No, I just want her to seek help and get well. As someone who has had his own problems in life, he knows you can become dependent on opiates. There also comes a time when you become tolerant on the perscribed dosage and require more., this is probably what's happening here. Pharmacist asked him not to mention this to any of the other pharmacy staff. I'm hoping she's off on medical leave to have this taken care of and wasn't relieved of her job. When son reiterated he didn't want her to lose her job, pharmacist said this is a "controlled substance" we're dealing with here! This happened on Friday, I was in today and just the two of them in the pharmacy, so what has taken place I do not know.

Anyone else count their scripts? I never do but don't take narcotics!
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Wow, interesting story! I don't think in good conscience they can keep her on. We had one of our best palliative care nurses in the same situation, we had no choice but to let her go.
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Many years ago reading a story about heroin addiction, probably in Reader's Digest, apparently many doctors mainlined every day. An over zealous nurse found out her employer, a doctor, was using , and reported him. Of course it destroyed his life. Apparently he had been on heroin for years. What remained in my mind was the observation that people can function adequately as long as they get their hit when required.

I like the story Swing, and the action taken was most appropriate from where I sit.
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Swing: I know your son had a difficult time. What he did (request that she keep her job and to seek help) indicates that he is going in the right direction. He's come a long way.

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Jan 9 2017, 12:54 PM
What remained in my mind was the observation that people can function adequately as long as they get their hit when required.

And yet you do not support the same solution for alcohol addicts.
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Swing: I know your son had a difficult time. What he did (request that she keep her job and to seek help) indicates that he is going in the right direction. He's come a long way.

Thanks Erka yes he has, the future does look brighter! The proper meds./dosage are to credit. He's more like his "old self" and is going back to School in March in hopes of becoming a social worker! I hope each day this positive journey continues.
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It seems to me that asking a customer to take action in this case is a major problem. I would think that the pharmacist has left her(him)self open to serious charges! Should the clerk cause trouble and an investigation takes place and it becomes known that the pharmacist failed to intervene that the law wouldn't be so lenient!
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Jan 9 2017, 01:05 PM
Durgan
Jan 9 2017, 12:54 PM
What remained in my mind was the observation that people can function adequately as long as they get their hit when required.

And yet you do not support the same solution for alcohol addicts.
My objection to alcoholics is the fact that society treats alcohol associated exposure with kid gloves. My tolerance acceptance level is very low. But my usual action is to consider them almost like lepers of old. One knows there are many places and things to avoid, and alcoholic related are high on my list.
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Jan 9 2017, 02:06 PM
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Jan 9 2017, 01:05 PM

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My objection to alcoholics is the fact that society treats alcohol associated exposure with kid gloves. My tolerance acceptance level is very low. But my usual action is to consider them almost like lepers of old. One knows there are many places and things to avoid, and alcoholic related are high on my list.
Durgan, I worked with two alcoholics at one time. They came to work on time, did their work and went home, all without being a problem. They drove to work and returned home driving the family automobile. Never did they ever give any sign of their alcohol usage.
Its the Saturday night party drunks that cause problems. Those who have learned to cope with inebriation manage quite well!
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I've worked with alcoholics, or former ones, whom I considered to have pretty much burned their brains out and whom I found to be very shallow in terms of their ability to relate to their fellow humans. Personally I dislike them, if I can be permitted that generalisation, but that doesn't mean I feel that they are not entitled to the same care and consideration that one would give every patient.
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Durgan, I worked with two alcoholics at one time. They came to work on time, did their work and went home, all without being a problem. They drove to work and returned home driving the family automobile. Never did they ever give any sign of their alcohol usage.


True my brother was the same, he worked for many years as a psychiatric nurse worked the same shift wasn't late was head nurse on the criminally insane ward He did get stopped by the police and things went down hill afterwards..

As far as pills the pharmacist has to be accountable if there were missing meds. I had an incident where 100 Oxycontin was stolen from me It was the delivery driver who absconded with the pills , he claimed he delivered them Yet I was home waiting and expecting them He never came I called the pharmacist they had gone out hours ago... The police became involved I was in the middle of doing Chemo I had intense pain in my joints and needed them The pharmacist also suggested not to say anything however no way . He had stolen prescription drugs other times as well He didn't use them he sold them on the street.
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Your son is really caring. He's come a long way. In the long run, it may not help the woman. The pharmacy can't even file a report about this employee if there's no complaint. Your son was observant. How many of us count our drugs?
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What I take from this, Swing is that your son is a good person. I'm glad that his life is getting better but I've been hearing tiny things about him, from you ,for several years now and in every instance his reaction to things was that of a good, kind, empathetic person. Here's to good things coming to him this year and for always.
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As for alcoholics.. many members of my family were alcoholics. They went to work, earned their living, were decent people albeit sad people.

Also, I had a close friend when I was in my thirties. He was a recovering alcoholic. He was a former wife beater and all around 'bad' guy. He quit, his wife left him with his 3 kids, the youngest not yet 1 yr. He continued working and raising the kids and recovering. He went through some rough times but he kept sober. His kids adore him and spend time with him whenever they are in town.

Now he is a very respected and sought after therapist owing his own clinic with his now wife.

Alcoholics are people. There basic nature is alwys there - just disguised by the drink.
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swing, Did your son get the 8 pills they stole?

I count the pills of any expensive prescription, or any controlled substance, like zolpidem or SOMA or diazepam (Valium). It's probably wise to count ALL prescriptions..
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