Collateral Beauty

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Collateral Beauty
Topic Started: Jun 14 2017, 07:18 AM (206 Views)
agate	Jun 14 2017, 07:18 AM Post #1
Posts: 21,864 Group: Administration Member #203 Joined: February 2, 2006	Going to see this film today. It is the last in the Hospice spring series. Retreating from life after a tragedy, a man questions the universe by writing to Love, Time and Death. Receiving unexpected answers, he begins to see how these things interlock and how even loss can reveal moments of meaning and beauty. Director: David Frankel Writer: Allan Loeb Stars: Will Smith, Edward Norton, Kate Winslet \| See full cast & crew ť http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4682786/



angora	Jun 14 2017, 08:16 AM Post #2
WWS Book Club Coordinator Posts: 14,494 Group: Member Member #717 Joined: March 31, 2010	Edward Norton is a fascinating actor. Can play anything. In the film, does the man write to the actual Love, Time and Death. I'd be interested in how the portray that.



Alli	Jun 14 2017, 09:01 AM Post #3
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	Take some hankies you may need them... Will Smith is impeccable in this movie..



agate	Jun 14 2017, 11:14 AM Post #4
Posts: 21,864 Group: Administration Member #203 Joined: February 2, 2006	Yup...just home and am still crying :crying:



agate	Jun 14 2017, 11:16 AM Post #5
Posts: 21,864 Group: Administration Member #203 Joined: February 2, 2006	angora Jun 14 2017, 08:16 AM Edward Norton is a fascinating actor. Can play anything. In the film, does the man write to the actual Love, Time and Death. I'd be interested in how the portray that. Yes he did. His friends have a detective who actually gets the letter out..(highly illegal) and then they hire actors to portray these 3 things.



Alli	Jun 14 2017, 11:51 PM Post #6
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	I watched the movie again last night and it reminded me how much I like the story.. People grieve in such personal ways sometimes the grief is so overwhelming we become lost. If you have the chance to see this film do it.... It's a reminder of so many things, love, loss and memories....



Trotsky	Jun 15 2017, 12:01 AM Post #7
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	agate, Critics really hated this "weeper." Quote: NY Times (Manhola Dargis) is typical: Review: Lots of Plastic in the Face of Collateral Beauty The five stages of grief sometimes seem applicable to movie reviewing, except that I usually skip denial, rarely get around to acceptance and generally just settle into anger, which is where I am with Collateral Beauty. Many of the words that I would like to use to describe this waste of talent and time, which riffs on Dickenss eternal A Christmas Carol and tries to manufacture feeling by offing Tiny Tim, cant be lobbed in a family publication. So, instead, I will just start by throwing out some permissible insults: artificial, clichéd, mawkish, preposterous, incompetent, sexist, laughable, insulting. Its hard to choose just one barb given that there is not a single real or honest moment in this movie And More It scored a 13% on the Tomatomometer...films rarely get reviews that bad. Edited by Trotsky, Jun 15 2017, 12:03 AM.



Alli	Jun 15 2017, 12:15 AM Post #8
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	Trotsky Jun 15 2017, 12:01 AM agate, Critics really hated this "weeper." Quote: NY Times (Manhola Dargis) is typical: Review: Lots of Plastic in the Face of Collateral Beauty The five stages of grief sometimes seem applicable to movie reviewing, except that I usually skip denial, rarely get around to acceptance and generally just settle into anger, which is where I am with Collateral Beauty. Many of the words that I would like to use to describe this waste of talent and time, which riffs on Dickenss eternal A Christmas Carol and tries to manufacture feeling by offing Tiny Tim, cant be lobbed in a family publication. So, instead, I will just start by throwing out some permissible insults: artificial, clichéd, mawkish, preposterous, incompetent, sexist, laughable, insulting. Its hard to choose just one barb given that there is not a single real or honest moment in this movie And More It scored a 13% on the Tomatomometer...films rarely get reviews that bad. If I read every review and believed anyone who critics a film I probably wouldn't watch anything. Movies and stories are personal tastes. I found the movie to be moving and not as was said by the New York Times reviewer..... I can understand how Howard felt after losing his child to Cancer. Nothing mawkish or fake about his feelings of grief and trying to escape... each to their own as they say......



Trotsky	Jun 15 2017, 12:30 AM Post #9
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Yes, A critic cannot be fully trusted to match your level of taste but when 87 percent of them say a movie sucks, it is often a VERY good reason to skip the film in favor of something that was not so thoroughly lambasted. It's like global warming: go with the overwhelming CONSENSUS. Edited by Trotsky, Jun 15 2017, 12:31 AM.



Alli	Jun 15 2017, 12:38 AM Post #10
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	No I disagree because 100,people don't like a film doesn't necessarily mean that another 500 people will agree with that consensus.. who were not included in any kind of poll. Movie watching is a personal taste, I like a lot of films that were deemed bad by critics but I thoroughly enjoyed in spite of reviews Does that mean I have crap taste? To some maybe to others no.... biggrin 04



angora	Jun 15 2017, 01:57 AM Post #11
WWS Book Club Coordinator Posts: 14,494 Group: Member Member #717 Joined: March 31, 2010	Critics are critical. If they loved everything or even too many things they wouldnt be critics and they wouldnt get paid.



Trotsky	Jun 15 2017, 02:01 AM Post #12
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	"Critical" does not mean "pointing out the bad" but rather "evaluative, good AND bad."



agate	Jun 15 2017, 04:53 AM Post #13
Posts: 21,864 Group: Administration Member #203 Joined: February 2, 2006	Trotsky Jun 15 2017, 12:01 AM agate, Critics really hated this "weeper." Quote: NY Times (Manhola Dargis) is typical: Review: Lots of Plastic in the Face of Collateral Beauty The five stages of grief sometimes seem applicable to movie reviewing, except that I usually skip denial, rarely get around to acceptance and generally just settle into anger, which is where I am with Collateral Beauty. Many of the words that I would like to use to describe this waste of talent and time, which riffs on Dickenss eternal A Christmas Carol and tries to manufacture feeling by offing Tiny Tim, cant be lobbed in a family publication. So, instead, I will just start by throwing out some permissible insults: artificial, clichéd, mawkish, preposterous, incompetent, sexist, laughable, insulting. Its hard to choose just one barb given that there is not a single real or honest moment in this movie And More It scored a 13% on the Tomatomometer...films rarely get reviews that bad. I was not aware of this. I seldom go to movies. These Hospice series that I have gone to all deal with dying and I have enjoyed most of them. Maybe enlightened is a better word. It is something we can not get away from. Accepting death & grieving are all very complicated.



angora	Jun 15 2017, 05:17 AM Post #14
WWS Book Club Coordinator Posts: 14,494 Group: Member Member #717 Joined: March 31, 2010	You are right about the wording, T. but my opinion remains the same.



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