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| Equine Body Count; 6 now dead at the Calgary Stampede | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 17 2010, 02:40 AM (491 Views) | |
| FuzzyO | Jul 17 2010, 02:40 AM Post #1 |
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Should the Stampede continue to feature events that place horses at such risk? What's your take on it? |
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| Darcie | Jul 17 2010, 03:10 AM Post #2 |
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I figure that the use of animals for our entertainment is off the wall, sort of answers your question I figure. Having come from a family of ranchers my father and grandfather used to think only dudes thought that this was fine, they deplored the stupidity. |
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| Vanilla | Jul 17 2010, 04:40 AM Post #3 |
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I'm not familiar with this Calgary Stampede but over here we have our yearly Grand National horse race, where it has been known for a horse to be put down when problems arise at a high or dangerous jump fence. They have talked about banning this for years, yet still it goes on. Six deaths ohmy 03 think that says it all, there should be no hesitation as to whether to ban or not. Edited by Vanilla, Jul 17 2010, 04:44 AM.
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| erka | Jul 17 2010, 06:12 AM Post #4 |
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I always thought "chuck wagon" races were a danger to not only the horses but also the riders/drivers. There has been talk about discontinuing this "sport" but the proponents speak louder than the opponents!! Vanilla: Here is the link to the article. http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Sixth+horse+dies+Stampede+euthanized+after+chuckwagon+race+injury/3286625/story.html |
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| Vanilla | Jul 17 2010, 12:14 PM Post #5 |
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I guess the only way to stop these type of events is to actually boycott them. Thanks for the link Erka, I read that several also died last year. Edited by Vanilla, Jul 17 2010, 12:17 PM.
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| Kahu | Jul 17 2010, 12:43 PM Post #6 |
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I was brought up in a horse racing area ..... but when a horse fell and had to be destroyed right out on the home stretch ..... it really put me off in a big way,(I was about 10yrs old) , and I haven't ever been back. As far as the Calgary Stampede is concerned there are all sorts of nationalistic/heritage themes involved ....... it is too big to be banned, and there are probably too many commercial interests involved too. Chuck wagon races are a bit like the old time chariot races and just as dangerous. Maybe there could be a change in the rules of the race? Rodeo ... (our closest equivalent in NZ) is popular in country districts, although our 'ranching' areas are quite different in that its more hill country rather than being plains/prairies. NZ Rodeo Kaimanawa Horses Kaimanawa homestead |
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| FuzzyO | Jul 17 2010, 01:54 PM Post #7 |
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It seems the chuckwagon races are the most dangerous for the horses. If they would ban those, and just continue on with the regular rodeo events most of the deaths could be prevented. I know the chuckwagon races are a huge draw, but these days if you brought in a major celebrity you could probably make up the loss. Kahu Canada also has a feral herd, the famous Sable Island ponies. They're actually small horses, not ponies. I don't think anyone can go to the island without government permission so the herd remains completely protected from humans. http://www.greenhorsesociety.com/Horses/Horses.htm |
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| yardape | Jul 17 2010, 04:02 PM Post #8 |
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It appears that most of you know little about the Calgary Stampede. The horses that run in the chuck wagon races are professional race horses that are no longer able to race due to age and stock. These horses are treated like family by the owners, cared for and treated exceptional. If it wasn't for the chuck wagon races and similar situations, these horses would be on the dinner plates of many Europeans where horse meat is a delicacy. Yes some die every year, but the horses are bred to run, love what they are doing, and don't make good pets. They are high stung thoroughbred race horses, worth thousands of dollars to the chuck wagon owners. If you want to complain about animal cruelty, pick bull fighting where the animal is killed in the ring to the cheers of the crowd, after being purposely and repeatedly tortured. Edited by yardape, Jul 17 2010, 04:04 PM.
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| Kahu | Jul 17 2010, 04:08 PM Post #9 |
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Thanks for that info FuzzyO ..... I had to look up Sable Island though, an interesting history and a very inhospitable place indeed .... wouldn't like to be there when there was a tsunami! It's a wonder so many horses/ponies survive through each season. The Kaimanawa herd is now a shadow of what it once was ...... their grazing area is on the high tussock lands of the Volcanic Plateau in the Central North Island. I spent quite a considerable time up there in the late 60's doing military training, and then it was not uncommon to be able to approach to about 2m(6')from horses in remote areas especially from an upwind direction. I never ever managed to pat one, but almost got close enough. |
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| FuzzyO | Jul 18 2010, 01:28 AM Post #10 |
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Yardape, where in Europe is horsemeat considered a delicacy? |
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| Kahu | Jul 18 2010, 01:30 AM Post #11 |
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France particularly and Germany too. |
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| FuzzyO | Jul 18 2010, 01:40 AM Post #12 |
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I can't recall having dined on horse in either country or even seeing it on a menu, though I certainly had some lovely meals. |
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| Darcie | Jul 18 2010, 02:43 AM Post #13 |
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Horse meat is also sold in Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/99796 Don't put it down to just European countries. Canada does it as well and it is considered high end. |
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| FuzzyO | Jul 18 2010, 03:35 AM Post #14 |
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The smell of the dog food fed to our English setter when I was growing up was enough to put me off horsemeat. I might be willing to try it now, if I had faith in the chef and if there was no whiff reminiscent of those large cans. |
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| yardape | Jul 18 2010, 03:50 AM Post #15 |
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One of the largest horse slaughter plants in Canada is owned by Bouvry Exports, located in Fort McLead Alberta. Horses that have no more use (such as older race horses), and horses bred for meat are brought into a large feedlot to await their demise. Most of the meat is exported to Europe and other countries such a Japan, where horse meat can be the main course. I've never knowingly tried it and doubt that I ever will. |
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