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| Male students getting rare as hen’s teeth at Ontario Veterinary College | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 29 2010, 01:41 AM (94 Views) | |
| goldengal | Nov 29 2010, 01:41 AM Post #1 |
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At this time of year, as Elizabeth Lowenger scouts out new students for the venerable Ontario Veterinary College, she eyes candidates with good marks — usually the mid-80s. Among those high achievers she’s particularly interested are those who for generations were the mainstay of veterinary medicine and now are rare as white horses — men. She makes sure there are images of men on recruitment pamphlets and videos. When choosing students to speak on behalf of the college at high school career days, she ensures that men are included. “Everything I do has to have a male on it, but not exclusively,” says Lowenger, diversity and careers coordinator for the oldest veterinary college in Canada and the United States. “We have to make sure that they can say, ‘I can see myself there.’ ” That might be a problem these days. Of the 114 students who entered the Doctor of Veterinary Medicine program at the Guelph campus this fall, 87 per cent are women. The dean is also a woman, while the faculty is about 60 per cent male. The feminization of veterinary medicine, as researchers call it, is not lost on practitioners. “It’s gotten so it’s like the last of the Mohicans out there,” says one woman veterinarian. “You occasionally work with a male.” The gender disparity has evolved over decades. Dr. John Reeve-Newson still remembers how an assistant dean targeted the handful of women students in a discouraging “welcome” address at the college in 1960. It went something like: “Ladies, I don’t think you should be here and I will do everything in my power to see that you don’t stay.” How did he intend to achieve that, one might wonder. http://www.thestar.com/news/article/897864--male-students-getting-rare-as-hen-s-teeth-at-ontario-veterinary-college?bn=1 There are only female veterinarians at the animal hospital we take our dogs to, and it was much the same when I lived at the lake. However, I had not realized how few males are becoming veterinarians now. Take care, Pat |
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| Bitsy | Nov 29 2010, 01:55 AM Post #2 |
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I think it is much the same in the states becuase veterinary salaries are not competitive with the salaries of other medical professions. The degree requirements are essentially the same yet there is a big disparity in income… males opt for the income . |
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| TexasCountryGal | Nov 29 2010, 05:48 AM Post #3 |
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Interesting article Pat. Bitsy, I thought vets here in the States made good money that was comparable to people doctors. The ones at the 3 clinics I worked at were making bit bucks and lived in upscale neighborhoods. Their staff's salaries were not the best unless you were sleeping with doctor, so I was told. When we drove to Texas A & M Veterinary School to leave a dead ram for necropsy last winter I was surprised that the student who came out to get the ram, dressed in high mud boots and a white apron with blood on it, was a woman. The fact she was a woman was not so much the surprise, but the fact that she was to get a 25 pound animal into the building without a dolly. Michael offered to help her, but she declined. Out in nowhere Texas all the vets we have tried have been men. In Houston it seems it was about half and half. |
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| Bitsy | Nov 29 2010, 06:24 AM Post #4 |
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I know at one time there incomes was less than medical doctors, but maybe that has changed. I may stand corrected. |
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| Bitsy | Nov 29 2010, 06:50 AM Post #5 |
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This is what I found with a quick search. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_money_does_a_veterinarian_earn |
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| goldengal | Nov 29 2010, 08:48 AM Post #6 |
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In the article in The Star, it said: "First-year practitioners in Ontario earn about $67,000 a year, according to the Ontario Veterinary Medical Association. And school debt can be high. Some students leave the college owing $65,000." Take care, Pat |
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| angora | Nov 29 2010, 11:39 AM Post #7 |
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I think that one of the reasons there are more women vets as compared to men vets now is simply a matter of strength. Vets were always men because they could wrangle around those cows, pigs and horses to give them their treatments. Women simply did not have the strength needed. Now, when most vet work is done with domestic animals - cats, dogs etc. women are able to do the work required. Caregiving is a natural work for women - so as long as we are allowed to do it and have the strength we will probably prodominate in those areas. |
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| FuzzyO | Nov 29 2010, 11:54 AM Post #8 |
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I believe that there are also more women than men enrolled now in medical school in Canada. |
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| TexasCountryGal | Nov 29 2010, 12:43 PM Post #9 |
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According to the AVMA (American Veterinary Medical Association) Veterinary Medicine Loan Repayment Program Enhancement Act page: The mean full time starting private practice salary in 2009 was $65,185, up from $61,518 in 2008. The mean educational debt was $129,976 in 2009 and $119,803 in 2008. http://www.avma.org/advocacy/federal/legislative/issue_briefs/tax_exempt_nvmsa.asp Without membership to AVMA I cannot get into a more detailed page. YIKES! People doctor's mean salary 2007, http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/300/10/1131#JLD80013F1 Posted Image |
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| Bitsy | Nov 29 2010, 01:31 PM Post #10 |
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I think this is what I read about salaries and women entering the field; it is an old article but I doubt much has changed. http://www.anapsid.org/vets/vetdemos.html |
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| TexasCountryGal | Nov 29 2010, 02:26 PM Post #11 |
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Interesting read Bitsy. Thanks for posting the link. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 29 2010, 04:43 PM Post #12 |
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Many years ago, when admirers of the Soviet Union pointed out that most doctors in the then USSR were women, it could be pointed out that there, doctors were not all that well paid - the high status, high paid jobs were for engineers and allied occupations - almost exclusively male. Just an observation. nainai |
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| Deleted User | Nov 29 2010, 04:57 PM Post #13 |
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The following just may explain why the lack of male Vets.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_an_average_Doctor_of_veterinary_medicine_make_annually |
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