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Okay, More Faucet
Topic Started: May 29 2012, 08:06 AM (675 Views)
Trotsky
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I have matching double Kohler faucets in kitchen, bathroom and bathtub/shower. All that they differ in is size but otherwiise a matched set of chrome covered brass.


Now, to turn the kitchen faucets ON I turn the knobs COUNTERCLOCKWISE and CLOCKWISE for OFF.

In the bathroom sink I turn faucets ON by turning COUNTERCLOCKWISE...etc. So far so good...the universe is sane.

But now in the SHOWER, it is reversed. ON is CLOCKWISE and OFF is COUNTERCLOCKWISE...this is different from the rest of the universe.


So when I am in the shower and I get a burst of hot water I instinctively turn the hot faucet CLOCKWISE to turn it off which, of course SCALDS ME!

So I know how I am going to meet my death...with a smashed cranium from falling out of the tub onto a tile floor, wrapped demurely in a shower curtain.
Edited by Trotsky, May 29 2012, 08:07 AM.
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I have a Moen tap in the shower and the flow is controled by pushing in the knob or pulling it out. The temperature is controlled by rotating the knob.

Good news! Maybe they took my suggestion to heart. At the time, the guy on the phone said there weren't any such things and nobody would want one.

Yes, I have a little adjustment valve just above the showerhead. It helps.

Trotsky, you are just the guy to hit back at Kohler with a campaign to put little signs on their display in various stores explaining the problem with their product! Management might hear about that.
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May 30 2012, 02:25 PM
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I have a Moen tap in the shower and the flow is controled by pushing in the knob or pulling it out. The temperature is controlled by rotating the knob.

Good news! Maybe they took my suggestion to heart. At the time, the guy on the phone said there weren't any such things and nobody would want one.

Yes, I have a little adjustment valve just above the showerhead. It helps.

Trotsky, you are just the guy to hit back at Kohler with a campaign to put little signs on their display in various stores explaining the problem with their product! Management might hear about that.
When did you make your complaint? I have lived here for six years and this faucet was here then!
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Some faucets have the female threads that fit the male stem threads, machined into the body. In this case, it would be impossible to switch the hot and cold stems.



That is all that I've ever seen and, of course, what I have.
But of course I COULD switch the Hot and Cold stems but to no avail since the two faucets are identical in every respect and both CLOCKWISE = ON. (I guess that is pretty much the definition of a LEFT HANDED FAUCET.)
Edited by Trotsky, May 31 2012, 12:00 AM.
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Check out the latest in bathroom faucets.

Touch technology. Go for it.

http://www.deltafaucet.com/smart-solutions/touch2oxt.html
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campy
May 31 2012, 01:54 AM
Check out the latest in bathroom faucets.

Touch technology. Go for it.

http://www.deltafaucet.com/smart-solutions/touch2oxt.html
When I have soap in my eyes or a mouthful of pills I DON'T want to be told I have to change a battery.
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campy
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You can use the lever until you need a new battery.

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Trotsky
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Well, if you are going to go electronic, GO ELECTRONIC:

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campy
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No thanks. No lever.
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May 30 2012, 11:57 PM
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Some faucets have the female threads that fit the male stem threads, machined into the body. In this case, it would be impossible to switch the hot and cold stems.



That is all that I've ever seen and, of course, what I have.
But of course I COULD switch the Hot and Cold stems but to no avail since the two faucets are identical in every respect and both CLOCKWISE = ON. (I guess that is pretty much the definition of a LEFT HANDED FAUCET.)
Here's a link to a site that displays all different types of faucet cores!

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/faucet-core.html
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None of those stems looks anything like the ones I had in my bathroom.

They had huge threads that screwed into huge female threads. Those threads moved the stem up and down.

One stem had left hand threads. The other side had right hand threads. There was no way to switch sides.

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I don't understand either, wildie.

I looked hard for one of those stems to have a separate sleeve that would reverse the threads in the faucet body and I saw none.

Are you implying that one or more of these stems will allow me to reverse the CLOCKWISE = ON function of either or both of my "Left handed" faucet threads, making them operate as a Right-handed system, aka, CLOCKWISE = OFF???
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I think you can do that on some faucets (there are hundreds) but not on the ones I had.

The female thread determines the direction of on and off and unless you change the female section there is no way to do it.

My shower fixture.

Left hand faucet open counterclockwise. Close clockwise.

Right hand faucet. Open clockwise. Close counterclockwise.

No way to fix it. Got scalded a couple of times and just marked them with a permanent ink pen for the direction of travel.

I sure wish I could have one of those rotary single wheel faucets instead.
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May 31 2012, 03:10 PM
None of those stems looks anything like the ones I had in my bathroom.

They had huge threads that screwed into huge female threads. Those threads moved the stem up and down.

One stem had left hand threads. The other side had right hand threads. There was no way to switch sides.

Back in post #15 I mentioned this problem!

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On this subject we have to be careful about what type of faucet we are discussing!
Some faucets have the female threads that fit the male stem threads, machined into the body. In this case, it would be impossible to switch the hot and cold stems.
However, some have a core that screws in (always a right handed thread) and it can have left or right handed threads, as required, to accommodate a left or right handed stem.
In order to make the swap that I previously suggested, the faucet would have to be one that allows the cores to be swapped!
Edited by wildie, Jun 1 2012, 08:49 AM.
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None of the pictures showed the type of cores I had on my faucets.

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Jun 1 2012, 01:38 PM
None of the pictures showed the type of cores I had on my faucets.

My first experience with replacement cores was in an apartment building that I bought in 1978.
All the faucets there had replacable cores! The place was built in 1911 but had all the galvanized iron water lines replaced with copper at a later date.

I assumed that all modern faucets came with replacable cores!
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