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Video Topic
Topic Started: Sep 4 2012, 03:18 PM (381 Views)
Trotsky	Sep 4 2012, 03:18 PM Post #1
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	My problem: Many Blu-Ray players will decode a streaming video signal from Netflix and others. Problem is that few of them support closed captioning. Mine (SONY BD-37) does NOT as is the situation with ALL SONY players. But my computer DOES support streaming closed captions.. So I am thinking of running an HDMI cable from computer to TV. This entails TWO outputs from the computer: VGA to monitor, and HDMI to TV, which I have. Main questionn is will my integrated video send out two signals at once or must I choose between one or the other? (If this works I will be happy camper...if not, I will have to cancel Netflix WATCH INSTANTLY, I cannot cope with heavy accents and loud background music drowning out voices.) What do you think are my chances. I know I could TRY before asking but the logisics of desk moving, spaghetti-wire fiddling, finding an 8 foot HDMI, getting behind the TC, etc., are considerable. ANd if it doesn't work, all for naught. What do you think? Should both video outputs be operable at the same time? Edited by Trotsky, Sep 5 2012, 01:06 AM.



Trotsky	Sep 7 2012, 01:30 AM Post #2
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Sort of bump: Let me ask more simply: Can I output the same signal from both my VGA and HDMI outlets at the same time?



Delphi51	Sep 7 2012, 08:46 AM Post #3
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	Read this carefully - the guy wants THREE outputs and they are telling him he can only have TWO. http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/449839-can-i-use-vga-out-hdmi-out-same-time.html It didn't work for this guy but somebody found a workaround; http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264267-33-ports-hdmi-connect-hdmi-monitor It may well depend on your computer. You must think of a way to try it out. Just a matter of hooking up two monitors, isn't it?



wildie	Sep 7 2012, 10:23 AM Post #4
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	My HP laptop is capable of sending video to the screen and out the VGA port as well, By toggling an F key I can chose which one, or both! The OS is Vista with the media player package. My desktop (Win7) can out put VGA and DVI. If I wished to send out on HMDI I would have to buy another video card. In your case, you already have HMDI so I would be surprised if there were any problem.



Trotsky	Sep 8 2012, 02:27 AM Post #5
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Thanks guys, two outputs is all I need. Bizarro world: I was able to output the HDMI to HDMI onto the TV but ONLY the screen background image not even the basic icons. (Monitor was attached via VGA and could call up Internet Explorer etc, but NOTHING on the TV except the very pretty background image????) Next attempt will be: I have a "Computer Input" for the TV which consists of a VGA port and a single 1/8 inch audio port. Problem here is that I will need to dig up a splittter to get the AUDIO OUT from the computer (also a 1/8 inch mini-plug) to the TV. It currently goes to a nice 3 way Logitech Speaker system. If I split the audio out from the computer will the siggnal degrade? Shit...all this work just to get closed captioning from Netflix strreaming. I might just toss in the towel and tell Netflix to shove their $7.99 Watch Instantly function where the Sun Don't Shine. This closed captioning issue is giving LOTS of people LOTS of tsouris and it flies in the face of the ADA (American's with Disability Act...and lawsuits are flyiing.) *Background: PC's can decode closed captioning but most other "internet ready devices" which can stream video CANNOT deal with closed captioning. So that's why this song and dance. From one of your links, Delphi: Quote: Hey there, I am currently running vga out to my lg flatron monitor and hdmi out to my toshiba regza tv, your gpu and drivers will definately play some role, but generally you can! Boy, that is EXACTLY what I want but I cannot seem to get it? Edited by Trotsky**, Sep 8 2012, 03:15 AM.



Trotsky	Sep 8 2012, 05:53 AM Post #6
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Alright, Perhaps something you guys can use. When you hook up 2 video outputs, you need to press WIN-P in order to access the choices of an expanded screen, 2 identical screens etc. I was finally successful at getting the HDMI feed to the TV with the VGA feed going to the monitor. It STILL presents a problem becasue my computer, and I presume nearly ALL, still use a discrete audio feed. Hence no audio across the HDMI. A bit backward, eh? So I AM getting closed captioning but have to turn up the computers speakers loudly enough to pass for TV sound. It is a tolerable work-around, for now at least. I can rewatch all the old episodes of TORCHWOOD with CLOSED CAPTIONS (background music is always booming) as well as any Hollywwood movies presented with Irish, British, high-middle-Polish accents, or Spanglish, rap or just pplain mumbling. Still though, even the lighter weight HDMI cables present that old loose connection problem I had so I have the cable pressed tightly against the wall. That socket is incorrectly mounted. Funny seeing my typing this message displayed across the room in glorious CINERAMA. :super: I am pleased as punch that I was able to effect this workaround. Edited by Trotsky, Sep 8 2012, 09:33 AM.



wildie	Sep 8 2012, 01:50 PM Post #7
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	Trotsky Sep 8 2012, 05:53 AM Alright, Perhaps something you guys can use. When you hook up 2 video outputs, you need to press WIN-P in order to access the choices of an expanded screen, 2 identical screens etc. I was finally successful at getting the HDMI feed to the TV with the VGA feed going to the monitor. It STILL presents a problem becasue my computer, and I presume nearly ALL, still use a discrete audio feed. Hence no audio across the HDMI. A bit backward, eh? So I AM getting closed captioning but have to turn up the computers speakers loudly enough to pass for TV sound. It is a tolerable work-around, for now at least. I can rewatch all the old episodes of TORCHWOOD with CLOSED CAPTIONS (background music is always booming) as well as any Hollywwood movies presented with Irish, British, high-middle-Polish accents, or Spanglish, rap or just pplain mumbling. Still though, even the lighter weight HDMI cables present that old loose connection problem I had so I have the cable pressed tightly against the wall. That socket is incorrectly mounted. Funny seeing my typing this message displayed across the room in glorious CINERAMA. :super: I am pleased as punch that I was able to effect this workaround. Win-P doesn't work on my Vista laptop. i assume that you have Win7. i'll have to try it on my Win7 desktop. As I said earlier I have to use FN+F4 to switch outputs! Your video driver program may be another factor. I can open my video setup by a right click on a blank area of my desktop and choosing 'Personalize' from the menu. Then I choose 'Display Settings' to choose which monitor I wish to use! At the moment I'm unsure whether this works with Win7.



Trotsky	Aug 13 2013, 03:25 AM Post #8
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Resurrected Post. So I finally got around to hooking the NEW video card to the TV (HDMI input) instead of to the TV's VGA port. After fiddling in the Control Panel to choose output identical signals to monitor #1 and #2 I again found sound only on the desktop through the Logitech speakers. So back to Control Panel and SOUND. Seems the two options were there: Logitech or SONY TV. The Logitech was marked Default. I changed it to SONY TV default and I got glorious loud sound from the TV. Great. Now one thing remains: I would like to get sound always to the Logitech or at least to default when the SONY is turned off (most of the day.) If this is not possible, although I don't see why not, then it's not the end of the world to go to the Control Panel whenever I want to stream a Netflix film that needs Closed Captioning. If anybody wants to go into Control Panel >> Sound and make some suggestions, I am all eyes.



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