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| Annoying word usages; What gets up your nose? | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 18 2012, 12:05 AM (936 Views) | |
| heatseeker | Oct 18 2012, 12:05 AM Post #1 |
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This one isn't particularly new, but I find it annoying. Way too many news reports, in print, or broadcast, describe stuff as being "sold off." What's wrong with just "sold"? And I deplore the increasing euphemisms about death. No one dies anymore. They "pass". Arrghh. What words are bugging you? |
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| margrace | Oct 18 2012, 08:50 AM Post #16 |
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My sister has a weird and wonderful way of pronouncing things, and she never pays any attention when she is told the right pronounciation either. But I don't say much to her because we both are terrible spellers. My excuse good spellers are born that way. Truly I heard a man from California explaning that I tested it and my husband and his son can spell almost everything. On the other hand some of the rest are terrible spellers. |
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| heatseeker | Oct 18 2012, 08:53 AM Post #17 |
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Many excellent writers are terrible spellers. Scott Fitzgerald comes to mind. And many good spellers are terrible writers. biggrin 04 |
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| haili | Oct 18 2012, 11:47 AM Post #18 |
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I don't like it when someone says "passed" instead of "died." I hate irregardless too. I also hate roadside memorials with their piles of soggy teddy bears and dead flowers. I am guilty of using "whatever" though; it's just so handy. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 18 2012, 09:58 PM Post #19 |
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Sorry for your loss .... are these just words or genuinely sorry? |
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| jupiter | Oct 19 2012, 02:58 AM Post #20 |
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irregardless is not grammatically correct as it has a double negative. It came from the U.S in the mid 19th century. Hopefully some people are learning to speak properly. |
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| heatseeker | Oct 19 2012, 03:03 AM Post #21 |
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irregardless is not grammatically correct as it has a double negative. It came from the U.S in the mid 19th century. Hopefully some people are learning to speak properly. Hopefully used in that way is not correct, either. Edited by heatseeker, Oct 19 2012, 03:08 AM.
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| FuzzyO | Oct 19 2012, 03:12 AM Post #22 |
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I think we have to give a pass for hopefully. Common usage eventually becomes accepted usage. |
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| heatseeker | Oct 19 2012, 03:18 AM Post #23 |
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Sorry, it does not get a pass. Even the most lenient grammarians condemn this usage. How hard is it to say, It is to be hoped, or even better, I hope... |
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| FuzzyO | Oct 19 2012, 03:19 AM Post #24 |
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Badly bothers me more than hopefully I think. Or rather, the misuse of badly. Edited by FuzzyO, Oct 19 2012, 03:20 AM.
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| heatseeker | Oct 19 2012, 03:23 AM Post #25 |
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Adverbs in general are not a good idea, he said hopefully. |
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| FuzzyO | Oct 19 2012, 05:10 AM Post #26 |
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That's sadly true. biggrin 04 |
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| Darcie | Oct 19 2012, 05:36 AM Post #27 |
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Went to Oxford and this is what they say about it. HOPEFULLY you will read it. I use it all the time. :-( Home › Better writing › Improve your English › Hopefully Hopefully There are two ways of using the adverb hopefully. Traditionally it means ‘in a hopeful way’: She smiled at him hopefully. This sense has been used since the 17th century, so it’s very well established. In the second half of the 20th century, a new use developed, with the meaning ‘it is to be hoped that’: Hopefully we’ll see you tomorrow. When it’s used in the second way, hopefully is acting as a sentence adverb, a type of adverb that comments on the whole of a sentence rather than just a part of it. Many people object to the use of hopefully as a sentence adverb. They compare it with other sentence adverbs such as ‘unfortunately’ or ‘clearly’, which can be paraphrased as ‘it is unfortunate that ...’ or 'it is clear that ...': Unfortunately, he missed the train. [i.e. it is unfortunate that he missed the train.] Clearly, they have made mistakes. [i.e. it is clear that they have made mistakes.] It’s certainly true that you can’t paraphrase hopefully as ‘it is hopeful that’. But this is no reason to ban its use as a sentence adverb: there are no grammatical rules that say the meaning of a word mustn’t be allowed to develop in this sort of way. http://oxforddictionaries.com/words/hopefully Edited by Darcie, Oct 19 2012, 05:37 AM.
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| FuzzyO | Oct 19 2012, 05:38 AM Post #28 |
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The OED gives it a pass, I guess we can too. |
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| haili | Oct 19 2012, 05:40 AM Post #29 |
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I think people who say "sorry for your loss" mean well but just don't know what else to say. |
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| heatseeker | Oct 19 2012, 06:38 AM Post #30 |
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Are there no standards anymore? Has degeneracy and decadence set in everywhere? Is this the beginning of the end? Have we seen the best of times and are now in the worst of times? etc. biggrin 04 |
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