Another side of Walmart

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Another side of Walmart
Topic Started: Nov 22 2012, 01:15 PM (1,011 Views)
Dana	Nov 22 2012, 01:15 PM Post #1
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	Walmart: America's real 'Welfare Queen' To make matters worse, these abusive Walmart policies have increased employee reliance on government assistance and the need for a government funded social safety net. In fact, Walmart has become the number one driver behind the growing use of food stamps in the United States with "as many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores using food stamps." Wal-Mart's poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps. Walmart's employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. They are also the top recipients of Medicaid in numerous states. Why does this occur? Walmart fails to provide a livable wage and decent healthcare benefits, costing U.S. taxpayers an annual average of $1.02 billion in healthcare costs. This direct public subsidy is being given to offset the failures of an international corporate giant who shouldn’t be shifting part of its labor costs onto the American taxpayers. Wal-Mart workers’ reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/10/1141724/-Walmart-fuels-inequality-epidemic-taking-advantage-of-our-safety-net# 017 I wonder if it's similar in Canada, the wages and reliance on handouts.



Delphi51	Nov 22 2012, 01:33 PM Post #2
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	That is a very interesting question! I wonder how anyone found out which Walmart employees are getting what government aid? This PayScale site has info about pay for all large Canadian companies http://www.payscale.com/index/CA/Employer If you click on Walmart, it says their pay is 2% below industry average. Costco is 1% below average.



heatseeker	Nov 22 2012, 02:14 PM Post #3
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	Shop Costco. They pay decently, and provide benefits, even to part timers. Their merchandise is pretty good, too.



margrace	Nov 22 2012, 02:24 PM Post #4
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,367 Group: Member Member #723 Joined: April 1, 2010	We have just lost our only competition to Walmart, The closest alternative is over 100 miles in either direction. This in an area where the mean wage is $23,000 and public transport is either being cut or lost all together.



friendshipgal	Nov 22 2012, 02:36 PM Post #5
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Delphi51 Nov 22 2012, 01:33 PM That is a very interesting question! I wonder how anyone found out which Walmart employees are getting what government aid? This PayScale site has info about pay for all large Canadian companies http://www.payscale.com/index/CA/Employer If you click on Walmart, it says their pay is 2% below industry average. Costco is 1% below average. Your link says Walmart pays 1% above average (Canadian) Wal-Mart Stores, Inc typically pays its employees 1% above market Costco Costco Wholesale company typically pays its employees -1% below market Interesting that Futureshop pays 5% below, I wonder if they are on commission. Futureshop typically pays its employees -5% below market Scotia bank pays Above market and interestingly The Home Depot Inc. typically pays its employees 4% above market Edited by friendshipgal, Nov 22 2012, 02:40 PM.



FuzzyO	Nov 22 2012, 02:52 PM Post #6
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	Doesn't make any sense. Shopper's and Sobey's are listed as similar companies for both Walmart and Costco, but in the one instance they supposedly pay 4% below market and in the other 1% above.



Delphi51	Nov 22 2012, 04:04 PM Post #7
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	Quote: Shop Costco. They pay decently, and provide benefits, even to part timers. I have a long time friend who works there and she agrees with that. MUCH better than Walmart, she says. There are two Walmarts in my list - Walmart.com has the 2% below rating. I think you've got the measure of it, FuzzyO. You probably have to talk to somebody who works there to get the real story.



friendshipgal	Nov 23 2012, 03:51 AM Post #8
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	I wonder what the difference in the two is. The other one at -2% says "We couldn't find any similar companies in our data. Do you work at a similar company? " something's weird.



Darcie	Nov 23 2012, 04:27 AM Post #9
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	The people I know who work at Walmart only want to work part-time. If they are pensioners they can only earn so many dollars before they are cut on their pensions/supplement. Same with people on Social Assistance. Now many companies will not hire people full-time because they do not have to give them certain compulsory benefits if they work under a certain number of hours per week. People I know who work at Walmart are, pensioners, mothers who just want to work while their kids are in school and don't worry about benefits because hubby works full time, one is a handicapped individual who could not work full time even if they could. Most for/profit senior residences use this type of hiring practice to eliminate benefits. Singling out Walmart is sort of looking at only a small sliver of the pie.



Dana	Nov 23 2012, 04:50 AM Post #10
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	It looks much different in the US, doesn't it, when employees are using so much more in food stamps than those working regular jobs. Part time is fine when a worker doesn't really need the money. I keep seeing that most young couples need to have both partners, parents, working these days. Yes, why would they need any benefits. Especially once they are mostly temporary foreign workers. Is it right for those who do not need the work to lower the benefits received by those who do by working for so much less than a living wage?



Darcie	Nov 23 2012, 05:43 AM Post #11
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	In a capitalist society it is all money, individually and for companies as well. The only thing wrong is not to take advantage of whoever and whatever.



heatseeker	Nov 23 2012, 06:09 AM Post #12
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	The only thing wrong is not to take advantage of whoever and whatever. I was just discussing the concept of outsourcing abuse with the guys (friends of my son) who are building our new verandah. If you get really frustrated, you could push a button on your computer or smart phone, and a picture would appear of some trembling wretch in Bangalore. Press another button, and someone kicks him really hard in the ass. You could watch this and listen to him moan. Your account is then debited 100 rupees. This could be huge.



Darcie	Nov 23 2012, 06:22 AM Post #13
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	heatseeker Nov 23 2012, 06:09 AM The only thing wrong is not to take advantage of whoever and whatever. I was just discussing the concept of outsourcing abuse with the guys (friends of my son) who are building our new verandah. If you get really frustrated, you could push a button on your computer or smart phone, and a picture would appear of some trembling wretch in Bangalore. Press another button, and someone kicks him really hard in the ass. You could watch this and listen to him moan. Your account is then debited 100 rupees. This could be huge. Don't we already do that to the third world countries? Edited by Darcie, Nov 23 2012, 06:23 AM.



heatseeker	Nov 23 2012, 06:44 AM Post #14
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	Yes, we do. By comparison, this would be a humanitarian, harm reduction measure. Chuck Berry could star in a series of commercials, singing, I Get My Kicks For A Buck Sixty Six.



Deleted User	Nov 23 2012, 05:18 PM Post #15
Deleted User	Future Shop employees work commission and so do those at Sears [at least I know they do in the major appliance section]. Bay pays above minimum wage plus benefits. Now that the Bay is no longer Canadian, I gather from employees working conditions are not the same as it was before. Doctor's pay lousy wages - employee turnover in some offices is high.
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