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| Another side of Walmart | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 22 2012, 01:15 PM (1,012 Views) | |
| Dana | Nov 22 2012, 01:15 PM Post #1 |
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Walmart: America's real 'Welfare Queen' To make matters worse, these abusive Walmart policies have increased employee reliance on government assistance and the need for a government funded social safety net. In fact, Walmart has become the number one driver behind the growing use of food stamps in the United States with "as many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores using food stamps." Wal-Mart's poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps. Walmart's employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. They are also the top recipients of Medicaid in numerous states. Why does this occur? Walmart fails to provide a livable wage and decent healthcare benefits, costing U.S. taxpayers an annual average of $1.02 billion in healthcare costs. This direct public subsidy is being given to offset the failures of an international corporate giant who shouldn’t be shifting part of its labor costs onto the American taxpayers. Wal-Mart workers’ reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/10/1141724/-Walmart-fuels-inequality-epidemic-taking-advantage-of-our-safety-net# 017 I wonder if it's similar in Canada, the wages and reliance on handouts. |
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| goldengal | Nov 24 2012, 01:30 AM Post #16 |
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Cannot figure out why they singled out Walmart. I checked only 3 companies as I glanced over the list: Air Canada -4%, Bell -5% and Dollarama -9%. Take care, Pat |
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| Trotsky | Nov 24 2012, 01:44 AM Post #17 |
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Let's assume that's true. Wallmart employs 1.4 million people in the United States. Dividing the two figures gives $1904 per employee per year...$158 per month. (Unemployment Compensation in New York tops out at $405 per WEEK.) (I wonder if the "government help" includes the Earned Income Tax Credit which can be substantial for a large family with a low "earned Income" ($5200 for a person with 2 kids)) Wouldn't it be nice if we could restrict out millionaires to getting only $158/month in government aid? I'd like to see a breakdown for all that "government help." Edited by Trotsky, Nov 24 2012, 02:04 AM.
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| Dana | Nov 24 2012, 07:08 AM Post #18 |
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The Air Canada figure is low due to the H gov't's interference in labour management bargaining last round while the execs continue to get theirs....the people must fly! Who employs more people in low wage jobs? Air Canada or Walmart? I'm guessing that it's Walmart. We used to expect that the Mcjobs would be there for teens entering the labour force. Now, it seems we are all expected to be happy with that wage level. Seems hardlyenough to cover busfare. No wonder food bank use is up in Canada. Up to 900,000 people every month! http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/10/30/20318751.html OTTAWA -- Despite claims the economy is recovering, the number of Canadians relying on food banks increased last year, a continuation of an uncomfortable trend since the recession of 2008. The number of Canadians who use food banks is at an all-time high, and a huge chunk of them are children, a new report has found. Food bank use rose 2.4% this year, and is now 31% higher than before the 2008-09 recession, according to a report from Food Banks Canada. http://www.cwp-csp.ca/2012/11/huffington-post-canada-needs-a-poverty-plan/ 11-1-12 October was a month that focused on poverty issues, from the International Day for the Eradication of Poverty on the 17th, to reports by Citizens for Public Justice and Food Banks Canada that highlighted the need to address poverty in Canada. In an effort to raise awareness of the almost 900,000 people in Canada using food banks each month, and the growing rates of the working poor, CWP blogged about the need for federal involvement in addressing poverty on the Huffington Post Canada website. Here is an excerpt: “While countries across the world have found themselves struggling with the effects of recession, Canada has fared well during this period and boasted about having the strongest economic growth in comparison to other G7 nations. Yet, despite this over three million people living in Canada struggle in poverty and many of these individuals are employed. Edited by Dana, Nov 24 2012, 07:09 AM.
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| friendshipgal | Nov 24 2012, 07:31 AM Post #19 |
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Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians
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All is not as bad as some would have it. http://www.winnipegsun.com/2012/10/31/more-food-bank-users-doesnt-mean-more-poverty The number of people using food banks in Manitoba has jumped by more than 50% over the past four years, according to Food Banks Canada. And what’s their solution to this growing “problem?” Enhanced social programs and more government income distribution schemes, of course. The implication is that because food bank use is up a staggering 57% in Manitoba since 2008, that poverty must be on the rise by some similar amount. Unfortunately for the poverty industry folks, the hard economic data simply doesn’t bear that out. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/20/poor-today-rich-tomorrow-permanent-underclass-a-myth-in-canada-study-reveals/ Poor today, rich tomorrow: Permanent underclass in Canada is a myth, study reveals |
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| heatseeker | Nov 24 2012, 08:03 AM Post #20 |
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I haven't seen any mention of a permanent Canadian underclass on this board, and social mobility is devoutly to be hoped for. But this is no comfort or help at all to people who are, right now, not bringing in quite enough to feed themselves and their kids. This is where food banks, breakfast programs at schools and other food distribution schemes come in. |
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| Oldsalt | Nov 24 2012, 08:39 AM Post #21 |
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Theres something screwy about that payscale site and I havnt been able to find any explanation as to how the numbers were arrived at and in a number of cases there were no companies in their data to compare salaries with. Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz Flight Attendants are better paid than other airlines mentioned. I havnt looked at pilots salaries but I imagine if one company pays their pilots 10% less than other airlines, none of those pilots would end up at food banks. Flight Attendant pay: Air Canada - 4% below market $22,040 - $62,052 Total pay $34,255 - $99,744 Air Transat - 13% above market $16,329 - $43,743 Total pay $19,163 - $62,489 Sunwing -11 below market --no base salary mentioned-- Total pay $21,141 - $77,043 Air Canada Jazz -8% below market $18,385 - $44,131 Total pay $23,664 - $76,733 |
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| friendshipgal | Nov 24 2012, 09:01 AM Post #22 |
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Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians
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Right, I think it's screwy too, and if the gov't had not intervened the taxpayer could be on the hook for another bailout. Their hourly rates are pretty high and depends on the type of aircraft flown, but the flying hours are not that high (I think) still for a minimum of 70 hours work they can do okay even at the lower rates. http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/canadian/air_canada.html |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2012, 01:08 PM Post #23 |
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Payscales for Walmart & Airline Pilots Pay scale for Air Canada pilots http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/canadian/air_canada.html Westjet http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/canadian/westjet.html Average http://www.livingin-canada.com/salaries-for-air-pilots-instructors-canada.html Canadian walmart employee salaries http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/WalMart-Canada-Salaries-E37844.htm U.S. Walmart pay plus bonuses http://www.indeed.com/forum/cmp/Wal--Mart/Wal-Mart-Salaries-Bonuses-Benefits/t9640/p2 Flight attendants http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Flight_Attendant/Hourly_Rate Air Canada http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Employer=Air_Canada/Salary Air Canada Flight Attendant Benefits http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/career/benefits.html |
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