Canadian Forces face danger pay cuts in Afghanistan

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Canadian Forces face danger pay cuts in Afghanistan
Topic Started: Apr 11 2013, 01:02 AM (2,262 Views)
Darcie	Apr 11 2013, 01:02 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	The federal government is reducing danger pay for Canadian military personnel who are currently serving in Afghanistan on training missions, saying that the country is not as dangerous as it used to be, according to Radio-Canada. Starting in mid-April, the cut in danger pay will result in a loss of about $500 a month. The current tour ends in late summer, meaning this decision is coming half way through their tour. There are currently 930 members of the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan. This decision will also affect a few dozen military personnel in Egypt and Jerusalem http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/09/afghanistan-soldiers-danger-pay.html How disrespectful, they could at least wait till this tour is over with. It is not as if they can quit their job. The more I see the more I get a sick feeling in my throat.



Alli	Apr 11 2013, 01:39 AM Post #2
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	OK so maybe those same Bozos should have a stint in Afghanistan... I read that and was appalled These men and women put their lives on the line and this is a slap in the face let alone their pay.....



Dana	Apr 11 2013, 04:21 AM Post #3
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	I too thought this was a despicable act.



Darcie	Apr 11 2013, 04:45 AM Post #4
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	What criteria do they use to figure out Afghanistan is no longer dangerous. How often does one of our guys have to die to qualify for 'danger' pay. I do think that the guys there should be replaced first by the members of the cabinet and the rest of the party in power who decided this. Just a scummy action to do in the middle of a tour of duty.



Durgan	Apr 11 2013, 06:15 AM Post #5
Veteran Member Posts: 13,273 Group: Gardening Guru Member #720 Joined: March 31, 2010	Soldiers remuneration should be commensurate with that paid to a Toronto cop. Most military personnel live basically from hand to mouth. Recently all the civilian support staff has been cut to zero at the bases, and the troops have to do all the care-taking duties at the expense of training. Basically janitors. Until General Rick Hillier took over and found a sympathetic government, the soldiers pay and support was non existent. Many soldiers families finally did not have to use food banks. Thanks to General Hillier. They even got some decent equipment. It's Tommy this and Tommy that, and throw him out the brute, but it's saviour of our country when the guns begin to shoot. Thinks are quiet now so ignore them.



friendshipgal	Apr 11 2013, 07:40 AM Post #6
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Actually it`s not being cut, the PMOs office has ordered it reversed. It was a panel of civil servants making that decision not the PMO.



Darcie	Apr 11 2013, 07:48 AM Post #7
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	I guess the uproar was too much.



Bitsy	Apr 11 2013, 07:51 AM Post #8
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	News of the reversal hasn't hit the internet yet, FSG must have a direct line to PMO.



Darcie	Apr 11 2013, 07:57 AM Post #9
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	It is on the CBC Bitsy, I read it when it came to my email at 12:54 pm.



Bitsy	Apr 11 2013, 08:06 AM Post #10
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	Darcie Apr 11 2013, 07:57 AM It is on the CBC Bitsy, I read it when it came to my email at 12:54 pm. Thank you. It didn't show up in Google search. Here it is: The government says it intends to reverse a decision to cut danger pay for Canadian Forces personnel serving in Afghanistan. The cuts of about $500 a month were first reported by Radio-Canada/CBC Tuesday. The government said the cuts were being made because Afghanistan was not deemed as dangerous as it used to be. But the Prime Minister's Office on Wednesday said it would reverse the decision, which it said originated with bureaucrats. "For your information, it is an interministerial panel of civil servants that made this decision, and we are going to reverse their decision," a PMO spokesman said in French in an email to Radio-Canada. In a later email to CBC News, PMO spokeswoman Julie Vaux said, "Officials make these decisions based on a number of considerations. Government has asked officials to re-examine this decision." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/04/10/pol-soliders-danger-pay-afghanistan.html Kudos to the PMO. Edited by Bitsy, Apr 11 2013, 08:09 AM.



Durgan	Apr 11 2013, 08:41 AM Post #11
Veteran Member Posts: 13,273 Group: Gardening Guru Member #720 Joined: March 31, 2010	Five Hundred ($500.00) lousy bucks. How low can the CPC (Harper's Mob) get?



Alli	Apr 11 2013, 11:38 AM Post #12
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	Durgan Apr 11 2013, 08:41 AM Five Hundred ($500.00) lousy bucks. How low can the CPC (Harper's Mob) get? So many of the soldiers went back to Afghanistan because they couldn't afford not to. That little extra which is paltry as is helped many couples sustain a little sense of a normal life without having to resort to food banks. :MapleLeaf: Oh Canada....



Bitsy	Apr 23 2013, 01:45 AM Post #13
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	Certainly have been lots of snafus from the Harper Government recently, and this is one I am sure they wish could have been kept quiet. I hope the whistle blower does not get in too much trouble for making this know. Quote: Canadian soldiers in northern Afghanistan are being forced to return danger pay they had previously been awarded, Postmedia News has learned. The troops, training the Afghan military in the city of Mazar-i-Sharif, are required to pay back the government between $900 and $1,600 each, depending on the individual�s pay. About 30 Canadian soldiers are now in Mazar-i-Sharif, but the repayments will affect about 100 soldiers who have worked at that location training Afghans between June 1, 2012 and Feb. 3, 2013. The decision, made by the Canadian Forces and Defence Department, to order the soldiers to reimburse the government for danger pay they had already received is separate from complaints over the last two weeks that troops in Kabul were having their hazard pay reduced. The military was forced to retreat on the Kabul decision after news reports sparked a public backlash. snip Soldiers working in Mazar-i-Sharif contacted Postmedia News to say they were told by their commanders that they were being paid too much hardship and hazard pay and would have to reimburse the money as soon as possible. The soldiers, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution from their superiors, said they felt betrayed. snip According to DND, a departmental committee was convened during the spring of 2012 to evaluate the hardship and risk pay rates for a number of operations, including the troops working at Camp Spann in Mazar-i-Sharif. The committee determined the soldiers would be paid a lower rate of hardship and risk pay than that being paid to Canadian troops in Kabul. But the rates weren�t instituted in June 2012 because of an administrative error. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/22/canadian-troops-in-northern-afghanistan-told-to-return-danger-pay-soldiers-say/



Oldsalt	Apr 23 2013, 08:40 AM Post #14
Small Star Member Posts: 977 Group: Member Member #892 Joined: February 5, 2012	Durgan Apr 11 2013, 06:15 AM Soldiers remuneration should be commensurate with that paid to a Toronto cop. Most military personnel live basically from hand to mouth. Quote: That little extra which is paltry as is helped many couples sustain a little sense of a normal life without having to resort to food banks. Do you have any idea how much our troops are being paid today? They certainly shouldn't be showing up at food banks. Edited by Oldsalt, Apr 23 2013, 08:46 AM.



pcmustard	Apr 23 2013, 09:06 AM Post #15
Blue Star Member Posts: 1,136 Group: Member Member #781 Joined: June 6, 2010	Not to bad as far as I am concerned, considering I was making approx. $13000 year retiring as a WO in 1975. To-day that figure is over $74,000 plus all health and dental benefits paid...plus, plus. With danger pay?.........go figure. http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/ps/pay-sol/pr-sol/rfncmr-mrfr-eng.asp Edited by pcmustard, Apr 23 2013, 09:07 AM.



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