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Canadian Forces face danger pay cuts in Afghanistan
Topic Started: Apr 11 2013, 01:02 AM (2,265 Views)
Darcie
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The federal government is reducing danger pay for Canadian military personnel who are currently serving in Afghanistan on training missions, saying that the country is not as dangerous as it used to be, according to Radio-Canada.

Starting in mid-April, the cut in danger pay will result in a loss of about $500 a month.

The current tour ends in late summer, meaning this decision is coming half way through their tour.

There are currently 930 members of the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan. This decision will also affect a few dozen military personnel in Egypt and Jerusalem

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/09/afghanistan-soldiers-danger-pay.html

How disrespectful, they could at least wait till this tour is over with. It is not as if they can quit their job. The more I see the more I get a sick feeling in my throat.
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friendshipgal
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Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians
Thanks for the info. The pay is much better than I thought it was... don't forget the next day cuts initiated by bureaucrats were rescinded by PMO.
Edited by friendshipgal, Apr 23 2013, 11:22 AM.
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Kahu
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All our soldiers are back from Afghanistan, and our Afghan interpreters and their families are being resettled here too. There was some talk of disappointment about the pullout in that the team members enjoyed the challenges of the posting ..... and now there may be some problems with attracting new enlistments.

Thirty Afghan interpreters and their families were welcomed to their new home in New Zealand this afternoon with a very Kiwi spread of tea and egg sandwiches.
A total of 94 Afghan men, women and children arrived at the Whenuapai Air Force base in Auckland.
The interpreters expressed their gratitude to New Zealand for its work in Afghanistan and sympathy to those who lost family.
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Edited by Kahu, Apr 23 2013, 11:20 AM.
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Bitsy
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Harper changed his mind again....good for him. 023 023 These two soldier snafus one on top of each other create strange political optics for a government who value the troops and the job they do.

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The Harper government has backed away from a proposal to claw back overpayments of danger pay for soldiers in Afghanistan.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says soldiers won’t have to repay hundreds of dollars they got through an administrative error.

After an outcry two weeks ago, the Conservatives backed away from a plan to reduce danger pay for Canadian troops training Afghan soldiers in Kabul.

The proposal to cut the danger money by almost a third, or nearly $500 a month for each soldier, is under review.

Now, the government is backing off again.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/04/22/government-wont-claw-back-danger-pay-overpayments-in-afghanistan-pm/
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Bitsy
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Apr 23 2013, 11:17 AM
Thirty Afghan interpreters and their families were welcomed to their new home in New Zealand this afternoon with a very Kiwi spread of tea and egg sandwiches.
The relocation package speaks very highly of NZ principles and values. It sounds like a wonderful package especially for the future of their children. I hope our government has something similar for those who gave us assistance in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Bit of history here and going back quite a few years, but may be of interest of some folks.

My Dad was in WWII from 1939 to 1944. I recently came across his pay-book. I found it hard to believe.

His monthly pay was $47.00 per month, that is forty-seven.................per month. Out of that he sent $20 per month to my Mom. Out of that she had to pay rent, bring up and feed two kids (I was one of them)

Oh...by the way, there was no such thing as Danger Pay back in those days....and the PM was a Liberal...MacKenzie King (not getting political, just stating a fact)

Make you wonder...eh! How the heck did they do it?

To-day, a Private in the military, basic level 1....earns approx. $33,672 per year. I do not think anyone in the military to-day has to visit, a food-bank.
Edited by pcmustard, Apr 23 2013, 11:59 AM.
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friendshipgal
Apr 23 2013, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the info. The pay is much better than I thought it was... don't forget the next day cuts initiated by bureaucrats were rescinded by PMO.
Yeh....heard that...nothing to do with the PM, but a bunch of civies or bureaucrats sitting around a desk in Ottawa asking themselves, "Well, what should we do to-day."....and guess what they came up with?
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http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/ps/pay-sol/pr-sol/rfncmr-mrfr-eng.asp

Here are the pay scales.
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pcmustard
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Thank you kindly, Darcie...already posted that in post 15. Now, do the arithmetic.
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Darcie
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oops PC, it would not open for me so I was unaware that the scales were there.
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To-day, a Private in the military, basic level 1....earns approx. $33,672 per year. I do not think anyone in the military to-day has to visit, a food-bank.


Not quite true. If you are an untrained recruit your salary per month would be approx $2000or $26,000 per year Before Taxes!! Once taxes are factored on , If you have any student loan debts or expenses and a family to support it would be hard pressed to live comfortably on that amount. Upon the anniversary of your enrollment to the Military you are given a yearly increase.. There are many military families who do use food banks as supplements for their groceries..Junior ranks in the military are like the working poor...
Pay is geared to your current rank
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A Corporal in todays military is considered a junior rank and I dont consider a corporal to be in the poorhouse. When I compare a privates salary to some of their civilian counterparts, even a basic private is well paid.

A private, depending on the persons qualifications, can move from a private to a corporal rank earning $67092 per year with just 3 or 4 years service as a private.

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Not quite true. If you are an untrained recruit your salary per month would be approx $2000or $26,000 per year Before Taxes!!

Since 1999 all private recruits are paid at the first level and 2013s pay is 2806 per month or $33672 per year.
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Bitsy
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I think it goes without saying that the troops are satisfied now that they don’t have to pay the back danger pay they received due to an administrative error but it has led to another question by them..why are we receiving less danger pay than other troops in Afghanistan?

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Some of the soldiers contacted the Citizen to complain not only about the original rollback but the fact they were receiving less danger pay.

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Neither MacKay nor Prime Minister Stephen Harper have explained why Canadian soldiers in Mazar-i-Sharif are getting a lesser amount of danger pay.


http://www.canada.com/news/MacKay+blames+military+lower+danger+soldiers+northern/8284246/story.html
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Alli
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Here is a paty scale for the CDN Military

PAY SCALE


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Oldsalt
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The Officer Cadets receive free University and room and board
so I dont see any poor officers who would have to use
food banks.
Edited by Oldsalt, Apr 25 2013, 06:07 AM.
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Apr 25 2013, 06:06 AM
The Officer Cadets receive free University and room and board
so I dont see any poor officers who would have to use
food banks.
And the pay scales posted by Alli are for the commisioned ranks and not for non-commissioned ranks, there is a big differents you know... Alli!
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