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Google Search...making me nuts
Topic Started: May 17 2013, 01:48 AM (485 Views)
Bitsy
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Trotsky
May 24 2013, 01:01 AM
Thank you Bitsy...it seems worth pursuing that I have 3...one might well be my dud.
I now have 3 but that is because I have 2 windows opened; when 2 were running, I only had the one window opened
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Thanks again bitsy.

Further thinking:
If I can use I.E. 9 and go to a forum, choose a topic and then backclick ONCE to return to the forum, it is unlikely to be an I.E. problem but rather a GOOGLE problem. Further evidence for a switch to BING <shudder> or something else.

Anyhoo, a full scan via MSE showed no infection (although I did get a trojan Quarantined back May 9 that I discovered in History and incinerated earlier today.)
Edited by Trotsky, May 24 2013, 01:58 AM.
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May 24 2013, 01:56 AM
Thanks again bitsy.

Further thinking:
If I can use I.E. 9 and go to a forum, choose a topic and then backclick ONCE to return to the forum, it is unlikely to be an I.E. problem but rather a GOOGLE problem. Further evidence for a switch to BING <shudder> or something else.

Anyhoo, a full scan via MSE showed no infection (although I did get a trojan Quarantined back May 9 that I discovered in History and incinerated earlier today.)
Trotsky, instead of switching to Bing, why not use the refresh button on address bar instead of back arrow?
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Alas, refresh only refreshed Julie Wison wikipedia entry.
I clicked the configure wheel>>Manage Add-Ons>>Search Providers and set BING as default. Tried Julie Wison Wiki (otherwise microsoft HIDES wiki on the back pages...same old MSFT.) Opened the wipipedia entry for the gajillionth time and a single clik on the back button took me back to the Search.

I'll try Google again in six months.

Geez, I wasted a lot of time on this. I suspect that some sites pay Google extra to get stuck.

The only Google workaround was to choose an entry with SHIFT + left click which opened the choice in a new window. I tried it for 3 days and forgot about 80% of the time.

Ca va.
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But why are you getting stuck, and others of us are not?
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I think it is VERY likely the problem is with IE. I am shocked at your loyalty to Microsoft!
I have seen IE go wrong in many weird ways and the main problem is that you cannot uninstall it to get rid of the mess. The only solution to IE problems is to switch browsers. All the popular ones are excellent. If anything goes wrong with one of them, just uninstall it and then install again.

If you must keep IE, try this. In control panel, users, create a new user of your computer. Log in under that name and try using IE. If it works okay, it means the trouble is in the IE personal data in the profile folder - likely there is a way to clear that out for your usual login name.
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OMG, it is Microsoft and Google dueling! They both want the search advertising revenue - all of it. Here is the discussion on the MS forum, blaming Google: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie9-windows_7/ie-9-back-browser-button-not-working/f0f0847b-6155-e011-8dfc-68b599b31bf5?page=4&msgId=dc78dec5-3459-4a93-bf11-964a429ab3ab

Another take on it with a possible solution
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Thanks to a hint from a commenter, here is a possible workaround:

Go to your google account settings
On the account tab, find the last section on the page (named Services)
Click the “Go to Web History” link
The new page will list your recent searches. Click the gear on the upper right and select Settings
The pause button lets you turn search history off.
For this to work, you need to be signed into Google in the browser and cookies must be enabled.

And of course the ultimate workaround is switching to Firefox or Chrome.

http://trioniclabs.com/2012/02/back-button-mystery/
Edited by Delphi51, May 24 2013, 07:01 AM.
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THat didn't work for me either Delphi.

You know, BING is pretty decent.
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You will get expert advice at this site: http://computerhelpforums.net/ - Starbuck is a malware expert. Starbuck & I were admins on a another security site so I know he is honest & can be trusted. If you have any malware or rootkits, they will pace you through the cleaning process.
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Thanks everyone who helped.

From my extensive search on this matter it seems that many Firefox users are having much of the same problem getting back to Google Search results. My choice to go to Bing was made with a lot of thought and for now I think the best one for me.
(Our laptop operates flawlessly on Google. Go figger.)

All things considered, I was happier with Google when they weren't intent on taking over the world. I iked them better when they concentrated on being the best search engine.


fuzzy,
I have no idea why only SOME people are tormented with this problem but there is just not another thing I can try nor another place to go for information I have not read twice.


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Trotsky
May 24 2013, 11:39 PM
Thanks everyone who helped.

From my extensive search on this matter it seems that many Firefox users are having much of the same problem getting back to Google Search results. My choice to go to Bing was made with a lot of thought and for now I think the best one for me.
(Our laptop operates flawlessly on Google. Go figger.)

All things considered, I was happier with Google when they weren't intent on taking over the world. I iked them better when they concentrated on being the best search engine.


fuzzy,
I have no idea why only SOME people are tormented with this problem but there is just not another thing I can try nor another place to go for information I have not read twice.


Not many computer users know that Google redirect virus is not a virus, but a rootkit. Rootkit infections unlike virus, spyware or trojan infections are very difficult to remove. Rootkits are designed in such a way that, once it gets inside the computer it gets attached itself to the core operating system file. They are also designed brilliantly to avoid detection by removing their footprints. To make issues worse, google redirect rootkit is seen associated with Trojans which makes it more deadly. According to a 2011 report, Google redirect virus have already infected 45,00,000 computers wide, out of which 1/3rd is from US.

To scan for rootkits use this software: http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/solutions?qid=208280684 - it is free.



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Toodles,

What do you think of this method:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5842581_remove-google-redirect-virus.html

Do you think that Kaspersky boot-disc we all made a couple months ago will do the trick?
Edited by Trotsky, May 25 2013, 02:30 PM.
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To put some closure on this (thanks for the lead Delphi):

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OK. The problem with the back button is that there is no problem with the back button. Here is what happens: When you open IE and navigate to web pages, IE keeps track of the pages you visit. The problem comes into play when you navigate to pages that use google click ads. Each click ad is loaded as a separate page. Therefore, when you click the back button it appears to not go anywhere.

The fix:

Place the mouse over the back button and hold down the left mouse button for 2 seconds and release it. You should see a list of sites you have visited. The sites are listed with the most current page at the top. Click the bottom most google click ad then place the mouse over the back button and repeat the process until you see pages other than google click ad. When you see the page you want, just click it and your are done. Or, you can click the back button until you get to the page you want.

This is the quickest way to get to your previous page. You can also do it the long way; by clicking the back button repeatedly until you get to the page you want. It may seem like it is not going anywhere but it is. You may have to click through 50 google click ads to notice it.

Hope this helps. It's actually not a Microsoft problem. It's a web page design problem with google click ads. Some web pages have anywhere from 1 to 100 ads on them and they all load as separate pages. So when you click the back button, you are actually clicking back through the load sequence for the ads on that page. It will appear to show the same page over and over again until you have clicked through all the ads and then you will get to your previous web page.


And the reason for this weirdness:


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Google and Microsoft are in direct competition with each other. Google would want you to use Chrome. But if you are not going to use Chrome, Google would want you to use any browser except IE. If they can get you to switch from IE, then they can get you to switch to Chrome.

These guys aren't stupid. How hard do you think it would be for Google to manufacture a malfunction that only triggers in IE. This glitch doesn't happen with all web pages. If it happened on all web pages then it would truely be a Microsoft problem. My back button works fine as long as I don't come across google click ads. But when I do, I just follow the steps I laid out earlier.

Microsoft is a Trillion dollar a year organization. Do you honestly think their engineers don't know how to make a back button in their own browser work?

Google is a $40 Billion dollar a year organization trying to gain traction in the web browser market. Do you honestly think they are above sabotage?

What is the commonality here? Google click ads. The ads load as separate pages in IE and not in Chrome or FireFox. Subtle but effective. It got you pissed off didn't it? Now, if you would only switch to Chrome.....


So, Google wants me to switch to Chrome...
Awww, too bad for them there is another way out...switch Search Engines to BING, much easier.
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Trotsky
May 25 2013, 02:26 PM
Toodles,

What do you think of this method:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5842581_remove-google-redirect-virus.html

Do you think that Kaspersky boot-disc we all made a couple months ago will do the trick?
superantispyware and others mentioned will not remove a rootkit. You need rootkit removal tools to do so .. I do not know about the Kaspersky boot disk you are speaking of but do a Kaspersky scan designed to ferret out rootkits and if that is in your computer, it will find it.

If you want expert help, I suggest you join and pose your question here: http://computerhelpforums.net/ - I can almost guarantee they will help you and guide you step by step and tell you what is causing the redirect. It is free so why not give it a go.
I would never refer any WWS member to a site where I thought could not help or trustworthy. Trotsky, I can only wish I had a small fraction of their knowledge & skills.
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Trotsky
May 25 2013, 02:26 PM
Toodles,

What do you think of this method:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5842581_remove-google-redirect-virus.html

Do you think that Kaspersky boot-disc we all made a couple months ago will do the trick?
superantispyware and others mentioned will not remove a rootkit. You need rootkit removal tools to do so .. I do not know about the Kaspersky boot disk you are speaking of but do a Kaspersky scan designed to ferret out rootkits and if that is in your computer, it will find it.

If you want expert help, I suggest you join and pose your question here: http://computerhelpforums.net/ - I can almost guarantee they will help you and guide you step by step and tell you what is causing the redirect. It is free so why not give it a go.
I would never refer any WWS member to a site where I thought could not help or trustworthy. Trotsky, I can only wish I had a small fraction of their knowledge & skills.

Bleeping Computer is another reputable & Trustworthy Internet security outfit that recommends 10 rootkit scanners & removal:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/windows/rootkit-scanner/

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