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Topic Started: Aug 22 2013, 06:51 PM (2,045 Views)
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campy
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drivera462
Oct 19 2013, 09:23 AM
campy
Oct 18 2013, 12:38 PM
Your point has been refuted.
Which point? That you like to argue for the sake of arguing?
Now you are doing the same thing you are complaining about.

The point you made that the hurricanes now are worst because of global warming.

Do I have to hit you over the head with it?

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Bitsy
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campy
Oct 19 2013, 09:41 AM
Now you are doing the same thing you are complaining about.

The point you made that the hurricanes now are worst because of global warming.

Do I have to hit you over the head with it?

Well, you have to hit me over the head with it....where did D say "that the hurricanes now are worst because of global warming". I am lazy tonight and don't want to go back and read the entire thread.
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campy
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Global warming doesn't
necessarily mean MORE hurricanes, it means
more severe ones. But you've never let facts
get in the way.

That's what was said ,more severe, as in worst.
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campy
Oct 17 2013, 04:15 PM
Consensus is not proof and Sandy doesn't even make the top ten. Worst was Galveston in 1900 in the U. S. But don't let facts get in your way.

http://science.time.com/2013/09/09/a-silent-hurricane-season-ignites-a-debate-over-global-warming/
Following the links to your link showed SANDY to be the #1 or #2 most destructive U.S. storm of all time. Where it is #2, it is second only to KATRINA. It is not referred to as SUPERSTORM Sandy for nothing.

http://nation.time.com/2012/08/24/the-most-destructive-u-s-hurricanes-of-all-time/photo/breezy-point-after-the-fires-that-destroyed-many-homes-during-hurricane-sandy-2/
Edited by Trotsky, Oct 20 2013, 12:05 AM.
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campy
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Fine now rate it to world hurricanes. We are talking about global warming causing hurricanes not only in the U.S.

You guys don't give up easy when you get things wrong.
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Back in the 20's there were 2 of the most destructive ones only 2 years apart. Other than those 2 the closest together are Katrina and Sandy. That's not enough to suggest a trend, but it is notable.
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I'm responding only to your misstatement and showing YOUR OWN link. So I repeat:

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Consensus is not proof and Sandy doesn't even make the top ten. Worst was Galveston in 1900 in the U. S. But don't let facts get in your way.

http://science.time.com/2013/09/09/a-silent-hurricane-season-ignites-a-debate-over-global-warming/


If you want to argue, it makes little sense to argue with yourself. Your link, not mine, showed SANDY as #2 just behind KATRINA.
Edited by Trotsky, Oct 20 2013, 03:25 AM.
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Oct 20 2013, 02:02 AM
I'm responding only to your misstatement and showing YOUR OWN link. So I repeat:

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Consensus is not proof and Sandy doesn't even make the top ten. Worst was Galveston in 1900 in the U. S. But don't let facts get in your way.

http://science.time.com/2013/09/09/a-silent-hurricane-season-ignites-a-debate-over-global-warming/


If you want to argue, it makes little sense to argue with yourself. Your link, not mine, showed SANDY as #2 just behind KATRINA.
But not in world hurricanes.

The argument Trotsky is that global warming is causing fewer but worst hurricanes.

If you want to say that global warming only takes place in the U.S. then your argument might make sense but then that wouldn't make sense wouldn't it.

I wasn't talking only of the United States hurricanes in a global context.


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And in your global context where did the worst hurricane take place?
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campy
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Oct 20 2013, 03:43 AM
And in your global context where did the worst hurricane take place?
From Wikepedia.

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The Great Hurricane of 1780, also known as the Hurricane San Calixto II, is the deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record. Well over 22,000 people died when the storm passed through the Lesser Antilles in the Caribbean between October 10 and October 16.
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And your point?
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campy
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FuzzyO
Oct 20 2013, 03:48 AM
And your point?
My point obvisously is that global warming has nothing to do with the severity of hurricanes on a global basis.

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And you think you have proved that?
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campy
Oct 19 2013, 10:44 PM
Global warming doesn't
necessarily mean MORE hurricanes, it means
more severe ones. But you've never let facts
get in the way.

That's what was said ,more severe, as in worst.
More severe doesn't mean "worst" and it doesn't mean ALL will be more severe. But it means we can likely look for more FREQUENT severe weather outbreaks.
Edited by drivera462, Oct 20 2013, 11:10 AM.
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I agree with drivera, and "more frequent" is certainly happening. Some weather is due to natural weather patterns, but mankind is certainly helping things along. What do you think green house gases do, Campy? Do you think they have no effect and that we can continue to pump them into the atmosphere with no results??? --- Or wasn't that the argument?

Seems this discussion has been a more "one upmanship" conversation.
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