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Topic Started: Aug 23 2013, 09:23 AM (825 Views)
Trotsky
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Temporary files, or foo files (.TMP), are files created to temporarily contain information while a new file is being made. It may be destroyed by computer programs for a variety of purposes; principally when a program cannot allocate enough memory for its tasks, when the program is working on data bigger than the architecture's address space, or as a primitive form of inter-process communication.


And that explanation is exactly why most of us have said: "Just Delete Them." :ciao:
Edited by Trotsky, Aug 24 2013, 07:21 AM.
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Well, I used the cleaning program, got rid of the temp files and cookies, etc. and nothing has improved very much....
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They list all the sites you have been to BJ, there is also a store of cookies . All you have to do is go to search for program and files and put in Temporary Internet Files and the pages and pages will open for you to see.
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Aug 25 2013, 04:44 AM
Well, I used the cleaning program, got rid of the temp files and cookies, etc. and nothing has improved very much....
BJ, cleaning out the Internet temp files with the Cleaner tab is only one part of CCleaner. Did you click on the Registry tab, scan for issues, and then fix issues to clean out all the unnecessary stuff ? You also need to click on the Tools menu, Startup, Windows tab. Here you will see programs and things that start when your computer starts, usually when things start, stay running. Most of the things you don't need to run, so disable the entries you don't need. I have all mine disabled, since most programs put an entry in the startup and you only need them when you access them. You can also access these by running Msconfig, or in later windows versions off the task manager.
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Aug 25 2013, 04:44 AM
Well, I used the cleaning program, got rid of the temp files and cookies, etc. and nothing has improved very much....
Have you reduced the number of programs that start when Windows opens. These programs require memory and leave little for the machine to work with.
When the machine runs low on memory, it resorts to using space on the hard drive as additional memory, and reading and writing on a hard drive is a slow process.
The temporary files just use hard drive space and are not a factor in the speed of a computer.
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OK I just did what Wildie and DT suggested except that I don't know what the programs are that start up so I am afraid to disable some of them.
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You can see most of the the programs that run automatically by clicking the start menu and choosing "run". Then type MSCONFIG. When it opens click on the Startup" tab. You dont have to delete anything, just uncheck it to prevent auto running it at startup. Of course you will lookup each one on the web to see what it does.

You could show us what you have running. On this page: http://www.softwarespirit.com/Freeware.htm
click "download listProcesses". When you have it, run it and click "Get List". Then click "Copy List" and paste into a post here. We will tell you what each one is and make suggestions about deleting or stopping them.

Edited by Delphi51, Aug 26 2013, 08:36 AM.
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Aug 26 2013, 08:32 AM
You can see most of the the programs that run automatically by clicking the start menu and choosing "run". Then type MSCONFIG. When it opens click on the Startup" tab. You dont have to delete anything, just uncheck it to prevent auto running it at startup. Of course you will lookup each one on the web to see what it does.

You could show us what you have running. On this page: http://www.softwarespirit.com/Freeware.htm
click "download listProcesses". When you have it, run it and click "Get List". Then click "Copy List" and paste into a post here. We will tell you what each one is and make suggestions about deleting or stopping them.

As Delphi has said, just unclick in MSCONFIG!
Just leave the antivirus and Microsoft items to start.
Unclick about 5 and try your computer. If all is well, do 5 more and so on.
If you need to, you can always click them back on.
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Thanx guys. I just got home and am exhausted. I will try to follow the latest instructions tomorrow when I am more alert. Hope you will all be around then!
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This is my list of running processes:
C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cfp.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cmdagent.exe
C:\Projects\Misc\ListProcesses\ListProcesses.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
\SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe

About 18 in addition to the ListProcesses program that captured the list. I will get rid of that CDburner one; no need for it to run all the time. Hkcmd is specific to the CPU I have. Commodo is a firewall program. I think the others are all Win XP processes that need to be running.
Edited by Delphi51, Aug 28 2013, 05:37 PM.
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OK. I just "copied the list" after following Delphi's suggestion in his post a few above. Here it is:



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9.6\AOLBrowser\aolbrowser.exeFiles\Content.IE5\MTLR39T8\ListProcesses[1].exe

C:\Program Files\AOL Desktop 9.6\shellmon.exe
C:\Program Files\AOL Desktop 9.6\waol.exe
C:\Program Files\AOL Desktop C:\Documents and Settings\Babette\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Album Starter Edition\3.2\Apps\apdproxy.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 4.0\PhotoshopElementsFileAgent.exe
C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\1190482650\ee\AOLSoftware.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\ACS\AOLAcsd.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\Topspeed\3.0\aoltpsd3.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\ArcSoft\Connection Service\Bin\ACService.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\WkCalRem.exe
C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
C:\Program Files\CyberLink\Shared Files\RichVideo.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqbam08.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
C:\Program Files\InterVideo\Common\Bin\WinCinemaMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamgui.exe
C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamscheduler.exe
C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamservice.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client\msseces.exe
C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\soffice.bin
C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\soffice.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\sttray.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\STacSV.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxpers.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
\SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe
c:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client\MsMpEng.exe
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Curious that so much stuff is running all the time, isn't it? Every programmer thinks his program is so important that you'll want it instantly available. I forgot to mention you should have taken the list after a fresh boot. Do that and ignore my comments for a process if it doesn't appear in the list after restart.

I have seen much worse lists but I think you can improve your computer's performance by cutting down on these always running processes.

Can you get along without AOL Desktop? It has six processes running all the time. Or maybe it has a setting to only run when you tell it to. It might be possible to stop it by unchecking the processes in MSConfig or removing its shortcut from the startup folder (right click START, choose "all users", then "programs", then "startup". Just move the shortcut somewhere else if you want to be able to put it back.

Photoshop Album - same as above for AOL.
BleepingComputer.com advises: This program is not required to start automatically as you can run it when you need to. It is advised that you disable this program so that it does not take up necessary resources.

Photoshop Elements file agent - ditto

mDNSResponder.exe and AppleMobileDeviceService.exe - you have to let these run all the time if you may connect an ipad and use iTunes to organize or back it up. They usually don't take up very much memory or processor time unless your device is connected.

ACService.exe - ArcSoft updater. "unnecessary to run this program automatically when Windows starts as you can run it manually when necessary." Same comment as for AOL. If you aren't using your ArcSoft software, uninstall it.

WkCalRem.exe - Microsoft Works Calendar, standing by all the time to remind you of an event you may have entered. Uninstall if you aren't using this old calendar software anymore.

PDVDServ.exe - Power DVD "Enables you to use a remote control with your DVD drive". Stop it if you can with MSConfig or in Power DVD's settings - unless you enjoy using the remote.

RichVideo.exe - Powerlink Rich Video Service. "Unnecessary to run at startup." If you aren't using this software, uninstall it. If you are, try to stop the process from running at startup.

Four HP digital imaging processes - if you don't have an HP scanner now, uninstall its driver. These processes shouldn't have to run all the time but it will be very hard to stop them as they are activated through the Windows registry. I got rid of my HP printer/scanner and got a simple scanner to avoid this load on the computer.

WinCinemaMgr.exe - "This program is not required to start automatically as you can run it when you need to. It is advised that you disable this program so that it does not take up necessary resources. "

Three Malwarebytes processes - must be left running. I'm not familiar with the paid version of Malwarebytes that runs all the time but it is certainly a quality product.

msmsgs.exe - MSM Messenger. Uninstall it if you don't use it. If you do, make it start only when you want it: "Go to Windows Messenger > Tools > Options > Preferences and uncheck "Run this program when Windows starts"".

msseces.exe - Microsoft Security Essentials. I'm not familiar with this, either. I think I would choose EITHER Malwarebytes or MSE but I wouldn't have both running all the time. Better advice from the other guys here.

Soffice.exe and .bin - Star Office. I bet you don't use Star Office anymore so you can get rid of these processes by uninstalling it. If you do use it, try to stop these from autostarting.
"Displays StarOffice quick start applet in System tray. Right clicking on the icon allows rapid starting up of components of the StarOffice 6.0 suite. Available via Start -> Programs. Automatically started when any StarOffice 6.0 component is started from the Start -> Programs. A resource hog (it eats > 16 MB of memory)."

sttray.exe - I'm not sure what this is. It puts an icon in your system tray at the lower right of the window. Possibly your sound card settings. Better keep it, I guess.

STacSV.exe - part of the Sigmatel audio drivers. Keep!

ctfmon.exe - if you have Office XP installed, keep! Otherwise I would try hard to disable it as it seems to be often used by malware. The file should be in C:\Windows\System32; find it and change its name by adding an X at the beginning.

hkcmd.exe, igfxpers.exe - Intel chipset drivers. Keep, but try to set it not to start automatically in MSConfig.

lsass.exe, services.exe, spoolsv.exe, svchost.exe, winlogon.exe, smss.exe - necessary Windows processes

All quotes from BleepingComputer.com, the best place to look up processes.

I expect your biggest load is running the two malware catchers. Even one is quite a load because these checkers have grown larger over the years while your computer still has the same CPU and memory you started with.
Edited by Delphi51, Aug 29 2013, 09:48 AM.
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Thanx Delphi, but I am overwhelmed. I do not understand how to disable a program from the start up program without being sure I am not disabling it permanently/deleting it.

As for Windows messenger, for example, according to my add/ delete program tool, I don't even have it on my computer to uninstall!
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Remember you are not uninstalling, you are preventing this program from running until you ask it to do so. Otherwise it runs automatically when you start your computer, and keeps on running using up resources until you shut down. The suggestion is that you make certain programs run on demand, not automatically. See Dialtone's post #19.
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I searched for "how to remove msn messenger" and got some complicated instructions. Recommend you just follow the address: C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe and delete the file. Open My computer, C drive, program files folder, messenger folder and delete or rename msmsgs.exe. If it refuses to delete, you'll have to stop it from running first. Use control+alt+del to get the task manager, processes tab, click msmsgs.exe to select it, then click "end process".

For things that are listed in MSconfig, just click start, run, type MSconfig and press enter. Click the startup tab.
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Just uncheck the item you don't want to start automatically.

To uninstall programs you no longer use, open the control panel, doubleclick on "Add/Remove Programs", select the program you want to remove, and click "Remove".

Some things are told to run by placing a shortcut to them in the startup folder. To see them right click start, then regular click "open all users", "programs", "startup". To stop AOL Desktop from running automatically, drag it away from there to any other location.
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Or make a kid's day and hire him/her for an hour to teach you! Don't let her have the mouse or she'll do it so fast you won't see what happened.



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