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Topic Started: Aug 23 2013, 09:23 AM (823 Views)
Dialtone
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BJ, you just unchecked things from starting, go back into MSconfig or CCleaner and put a check mark beside all the things that were listed before. As for system restore, unless you cleared all the restore points, you should have several dating back probably to last week or even last month. Just scroll through the restore points and pick a date before you started. The warning you get from msconfig is just telling you that you are in selective startup, it should start OK in selective startup, then use MSconfig or CCleaner to start the programs you want.. like MSE.

The first order when working with PCs and it looks like it's screwed up is remain calm, things usually aren't as bad as they seem.
Edited by Dialtone, Aug 30 2013, 10:15 AM.
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Aug 29 2013, 04:05 PM
Dialtone, Wildie - what do you think about running Microsoft Security Essentials AND Malwarebytes paid version on the old XP machine? It has to hurt the speed when everything is being checked twice, doesn't it? Which one would you uninstall?
i run MSE on my 3 Windows machines. I have MWB on these as well but have removed it from starting when booting!
I run MWB manually from time to time for my own satisfaction.

However, my laptop has 2 gigs of memory and the two desktops have 6 gigs each, so memory isn't a real concern. On an XP machine with less than a gig, it could be a problem.
I haven't an XP machine to try one or the other, so I can't really say!

By the way, I find that Win8 has great memory handling capability. I think better than Win7 even!
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Computer dead. On way to computer repair. System restore restored it to when it got screwed up. Bitsy....we are more than even.
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Guys, it restored ONLY TO AFTER THE SCREW UP. Delphi, I did all that, but it was as if I deleted the programs even though I only unchecked those boxes and then checked them again. Many just disappeared from the list and OE and AOL got corrupted.
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Aug 30 2013, 10:09 AM
BJ, you just unchecked things from starting, go back into MSconfig or CCleaner and put a check mark beside all the things that were listed before. As for system restore, unless you cleared all the restore points, you should have several dating back probably to last week or even last month. Just scroll through the restore points and pick a date before you started. The warning you get from msconfig is just telling you that you are in selective startup, it should start OK in selective startup, then use MSconfig or CCleaner to start the programs you want.. like MSE.

The first order when working with PCs and it looks like it's screwed up is remain calm, things usually aren't as bad as they seem.
Good advice, Fred! I agree totally!
Its easy to get rattled and its good advise just to work back on what you have done.

In an earlier post, I suggested that you would uncheck no more than 5 items and none that are MS programs. Of course, your antivirus must be allowed to run in background also! By unchecking only five items, its not so hard to go back if a problem happens.

Its possible that 'system restore' is turned off, so this may not be an option. And if your are short of hard drive capacity, older restore copies may have been deleted automatically.
I used to be an advocate of system restore, but there are pitfalls to be encountered.
This why its best to use a good backup program and backup to an external drive.
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Aug 30 2013, 10:44 AM
Guys, it restored ONLY TO AFTER THE SCREW UP.
I always check a date from about a week before I started having problems and it has always worked for me. Sorry.
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It wouldn't take YESTERDAY or any other date before today. It had ONLY TODAY as. System restore point.
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Aug 30 2013, 11:01 AM
It wouldn't take YESTERDAY or any other date before today. It had ONLY TODAY as. System restore point.
That is strange , you should be able to pick a date of your choosing.
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Well, we dropped off the computer and for nearly $1,000 will get a new computer with 8 gig ram, a new wireless printer/fax/copier, and full installation including lessons on how to get data from the hand held scanner I won over the weekend into the computer. We chose WIN7 rather than WIN 8
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I have found that the most sophisticated attacks first take out SYSTEM RESTORE and then take out your ANTIVIRUS.

My SYSTEM RESTORE has always worked flawlessly UNTIL I NEEDED IT. Typically all the Restore Points go bye-bye.

I like MSE for my protection...been good with this computer (new this January.)

BJ, system sounds nice if a little pricey. Is that a laser printer?
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Trotsky, that seems to be exactly what happened.

We took the computer to the company that built it for us yesterday, hoping they can at least salvage most of our photos and files to be placed on the new computer they will build us.
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Wow, I have used MSconfig and system restore on scores of computers without ever losing one. I will be more careful offering advice. I should have suggested setting a restore point first and writing down what was unchecked. Checking everything should certainly have brought the computer back to slow normal. The startup message from MSconfig persists until you check the "don't show this" box and OK it; it is not a sign of anything wrong. Nor is loss of AOL if you unchecked or uninstalled it. At worst, you would just have to install it again. I don't think anything you did hurt the computer; rather something must else have failed.

There should be no problem transferring all your files to the new computer unless the hard drive hardware happened to fail as you were making the changes. Good idea to make a backup of your files or the new computer's entire drive. Send a copy of all your pictures on a memory stick to a friend in case the house burns.
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Aug 31 2013, 12:07 PM
Wow, I have used MSconfig and system restore on scores of computers without ever losing one. I will be more careful offering advice. I should have suggested setting a restore point first and writing down what was unchecked. Checking everything should certainly have brought the computer back to slow normal. The startup message from MSconfig persists until you check the "don't show this" box and OK it; it is not a sign of anything wrong. Nor is loss of AOL if you unchecked or uninstalled it. At worst, you would just have to install it again. I don't think anything you did hurt the computer; rather something must else have failed.

There should be no problem transferring all your files to the new computer unless the hard drive hardware happened to fail as you were making the changes. Good idea to make a backup of your files or the new computer's entire drive. Send a copy of all your pictures on a memory stick to a friend in case the house burns.
Exactly 023 , I'll be a lot more careful offering advice, on this forum anyway. IMO, $1000 is way too much to pay for what BJ is getting, but I suspect she trusts her go to people who have PCs to sell more than us. You know us old curmudgeons, we've got nothing but time, just sit around waiting to offer advice and hope someone actually uses it. I suspect the "disaster" was user error rather than the advice. BJ, do what you want, but some of us actually spend a lot of time trying to help.
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I noticed laptops are as low as $350 here in the north. But you might want to pay more for a better one.
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Aug 31 2013, 01:30 PM
I noticed laptops are as low as $350 here in the north. But you might want to pay more for a better one.
HP Quad core laptop, 8 gig ram, 1 TB drive.. etc, etc, $399 on sale up here in the frozen northland, cheaper in the US.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-pavilion-15-6-laptop-black-amd-elite-quad-core-a10-5750m-1tb-hdd-8gb-ram-windows-8-15-e084ca/10257100.aspx?path=2b264941632ee2db4c3c96e2624a9473en02&SearchPageIndex=1
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