Cell Phone Company PR campaign

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Cell Phone Company PR campaign
Topic Started: Sep 1 2013, 05:04 PM (1,016 Views)
Daniel	Sep 1 2013, 05:04 PM Post #1
Small Star Member Posts: 902 Group: Member Member #759 Joined: May 9, 2010	Has anybody seen, heard or read those commercials and ads by FairforCanada against the CRTC rules and allowing Verizon to come to Canada? Here's a website describing the cell phone companies as whiners: https://whatthemarketersaw.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/marketing-commentary-fairforcanada-ca-radio-campaign-a-review-of-weak-marketing-arguments/ Here's a website describing the FairforCanada.ca is hosted by Microsoft - a US company. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1808302-FairForCanada-ca-hosted-in-the-United-States Check out the parody on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC0uMKXsVM4 Maybe Rogers can explain how ING Direct or PC Financial with their higher interest rates and non-existent service charges brought down the big six banks. Edited by Daniel, Sep 1 2013, 05:06 PM.

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Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 11:04 AM Post #16
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	From Google I found out that Bell is traded on the TSX, so the PR might just be aimed at the people who have shares in their company. I think Rogers is private and I know that FIDO is owned by Rogers but operates at arms length. Will check on the others. Their shares seem to have gone down when this was announced but it is going up a little. http://www.bce.ca/investors/stock-info/quotescharts/ Edited by Darcie, Sep 2 2013, 11:06 AM.



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 11:08 AM Post #17
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Here is a link about Rogers, the history is interesting. http://your.rogers.com/aboutrogers/historyofrogers/overview.asp



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 11:15 AM Post #18
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Info about Telus, Background Telus Communications (Alberta) was created in 1990 by the government of Alberta as a holding company in order to facilitate the privatization of a crown corporation, the Alberta Government Telephones Commission (AGT).[1][2][3] In 1995, it acquired Edmonton Telephones Corporation (Ed Tel) from the City of Edmonton[4] making Telus the owner of all telephone service in the province. In 1996, Telus was introduced to the public as the consumer brand, replacing AGT and EdTel.[1][5] In 1998, Telus and BCTel announced a proposed merger.[6] The merge was completed in 1999, with the corporate name slightly modified to Telus Corporation. While Telus was the surviving company, it moved its headquarters to Vancouver.[1][7] As a result of the merger Telus became Canada's second largest telcom with 22% of market share compared to Bell Canada's 42%.[7][8][9] Large swaths of rural Quebec, mainly the Gasp� Peninsula and the north shore, were served from 1927 by an entity known as Corporation de T�l�phone et de Pouvoir de Qu�bec, and in 1955, this became known as Qu�bec T�l�phone. In 1966, the Anglo-Canadian Telephone Company, a subsidiary of General Telephone and Electronics of Stamford, Connecticut (later GTE), became a majority shareholder in Qu�bec T�l�phone. Anglo-Canadian also owned BCTel, and GTE (later merged into Verizon) also owned services in Barbados, Dominican Republic, Jamaica, and Trinidad and Tobago. In 1997, Groupe Qu�becTel was established to own Qu�bec T�l�phone. Following the merger of BCTel with Telus of Alberta, GTE sold its interests in Qu�bec T�l�phone to Telus in August 2000, which renamed it Telus Qu�bec on April 2, 2001. In late 2004, American telecom Verizon Communications sold its 20.5% stake in Telus. This was so that Verizon could focus more on its own services.[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telus They all seem to be in each other's pocket eh?



Dialtone	Sep 2 2013, 11:19 AM Post #19
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	The CRTC is the biggest wedge to true competition existing in the Telecom and TV business. It is a true burr under the saddle of most companies wanting to compete, it "mandates" and the majority of those employed by the CRTC haven't a clue about telecommunications, TV, Radio or anything related, therein lies the problem.



Dialtone	Sep 2 2013, 11:23 AM Post #20
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Darcie Sep 2 2013, 11:04 AM From Google I found out that Bell is traded on the TSX, so the PR might just be aimed at the people who have shares in their company. I think Rogers is private and I know that FIDO is owned by Rogers but operates at arms length. Will check on the others. Their shares seem to have gone down when this was announced but it is going up a little. http://www.bce.ca/investors/stock-info/quotescharts/ Geeze Darcie, you've been telling us all along that you worked on Bay street in the investment field, and yet you didn't even know Bell, Telus etc were listed companies ? Bell is and has historically been, one of the top blue chip rated shares to hold, it pays a good dividend. It's held by every pension fund including the CPP, and it's privately owned probably by more Canadians than any other stock. Those who want to see Verizon enter the market and have a company like Bell downgraded, better be prepared to take a cut to pension and investment incomes. Darcie, it's a good thing you got out of the business. Edited by Dialtone, Sep 2 2013, 11:42 AM.



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 11:39 AM Post #21
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Sweet DT, companies come and companies go, who knows where they are at today? Remember I don't think the past is the status quo today, I look it up. Well seems they are not so blue chip right now, I worked in the mining end of it so telecommunications was not in my interest. I also worked at AGT as a LD operator back when they had mobile phones in the oil fields and we had plugs and cords. Come a little ways since then.



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 11:41 AM Post #22
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	DT, it seems that the Harper government doesn't think the same as you do about CRTC.



Dialtone	Sep 2 2013, 11:47 AM Post #23
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	The CRTC has been around a lot, lot, longer than the Harper government, at one time it actually had a use. The CRTC as it is today was formed in 1968, and is a Liberal invention of control.



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 11:50 AM Post #24
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	It matters little what they did in the past, it is what they do now and how the government in majority now handles it. Just for once I think they have taken the correct decision, aren't you happy that I agree with the Harper government. How positive is that?



Dialtone	Sep 2 2013, 12:05 PM Post #25
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	I give you credit, it's good to hear you support a Harper Government decision. On the other side of the coin, you must give me credit for going against a Harper decision. Of course, it isn't his decision but one of his underlings that he must support to save face.



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 12:07 PM Post #26
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	I do DT, you know more about their systems and functioning, it very well could be as you say. Afterall Mr. Harper is the leader, the boss, it is his job to lead and to know what is going on with the underlings and with the members of his office.



Darcie	Sep 2 2013, 12:09 PM Post #27
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Good movie coming on, have a nice evening DT.



margrace	Sep 2 2013, 01:35 PM Post #28
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,367 Group: Member Member #723 Joined: April 1, 2010	The Louise Arbour story is on tv tonight. She investigated a police shooting in Tyrone Ireland on too far from where my family lives. My cousin had a copy of her report on it, but I can't find any trace of it on the web.



Delphi51	Sep 3 2013, 04:51 AM Post #29
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	The thing is, this is about Verizon buying Wind Mobile and gaining the special privilege(s) it has because it is small. What are those privileges? This is a little bit informative: Quote: WIND�s network coverage has been built to support cities across Canada: Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, the GTA, Hamilton, Ottawa, Kitchener/Waterloo and Guelph and continues to grow every day. See our current coverage maps here. � Outside of the WIND network, we�ve still got you covered with coast-to-coast AWAY roaming coverage � it�s just 0.20c/min to make a call from anywhere in Canada or the US to anywhere in Canada or the US. Learn more about roaming here (including rates). As long as your phone is showing WIND coverage, you can use all of your included and unlimited plan features at no extra cost. This means if you�re a WIND customer from Vancouver you can travel to Toronto and use your phone just like you would at home in Van: �send and receive messages, use your data plan, make and receive calls � and you won�t be charged anything extra � No more paying long-distance to order a pizza from the shop across the street from your hotel. The fact that Wind customers must pay a 20 cent a minute roaming charge to use other networks suggests an agreement where Telus and Bell make good money from Wind. Why would this be any different if Verizon becomes the owner of Wind Mobile?



Delphi51	Sep 3 2013, 05:15 AM Post #30
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	The details are here: http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf10547.html The arguments seem to be over the onerous paperwork and security matters. This is all I found on the rates charged for sharing towers. Quote: 7.3 Rates 152. The consultation did not propose any changes to the conditions of licence that require roaming and tower sharing agreements to be offered at commercial rates that are reasonably comparable to rates currently charged to others for similar access. When parties cannot agree on rates or terms contained in agreements, they have recourse to arbitration.



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