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| Topic Started: Sep 14 2013, 04:38 AM (650 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Sep 15 2013, 05:35 AM Post #16 |
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Dogleg...I am unhappy because even though as others have said, WIN 7 isn't DRASTICALLY different than WIN XP, one still must adjust to a new operating system. Plus, with any new computer, your cookies are all gone so you will need to put in whatever name and password you use for each website you frequent, even if you haven't had to recall those for many years. I usually use just plain "begete" at most sites. I thought I was going to have to phone Kahu in New Zealand to get me back in here, until I remembered that when 50 Plus closed, I added the "Justicette" part to my WWS name so the new people from 50 Plus would know who I was. |
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| Dialtone | Sep 15 2013, 06:34 AM Post #17 |
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:soapbox.gif: BJ, you losing all your information, cookies, etc is your own fault, who doesn't have a little black book or encrypted file with names and passwords ? You can also export all your favourites and cookies to a file, save them, then import them back into your new operating system, a task that takes about 30 seconds, and is easy, you just have to spend a bit of time leaning how. Windows 7 is far superior to XP, in both operating architecture and security, Windows 8 is even better IMO. I don't know how many times it's been said on this site to backup your data, and there are many great programs that will backup and reinstall your entire operating system in about 15 minutes. Just 3 days ago on the Giveawayoftheday site was Paragon backup and recovery, FREE. http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/paragon-backup-recovery-12/ , it will be on again, and there is a reminder of this site at the bottom of the forum. I paid $49 for Acronis true image a few years ago, and it's been the best program I ever bought, probably saved me hundreds of hours and is peace of mind knowing that no matter what happens, I can completely restore my PC, all my data, everything, to the point in time I took the image. It's funny people will spend hundreds of dollars going out for junk food and endless other unnecessary things, but won't spend a dime unless they absolutely have to on their PC health and security. Folks, spend some time and get to know your PC, it's worth the time and effort. Lecture is over now. :makemyday: |
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| Deleted User | Sep 15 2013, 07:33 AM Post #18 |
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That may be easy for someone who has an interest in hi tech things, DT, but for people who are tech phobic like myself, it is beyond my abilities. If I could figure out how to use Sky Drive, wouldn't that be the same thing? |
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| Dialtone | Sep 15 2013, 07:59 AM Post #19 |
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Sky Drive is Microsoft's online storage facility, ( http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/skydrive/download ) it can be used to store photos, data, and other things you might want to upload for backup purposes. I wouldn't store any document that contains user names or passwords online, you have no idea who has access, and who might use them. IMO, security in a lot of places is only as good as the employee's working there, and organized crime uses a lot of bribes, intimidation, and any means possible to get sensitive data. An image program such as I mentioned, will take an exact copy of your computer, store it to a designated area (usually a second hard drive or partition), and from there you can reload it back to your computer if you need it. Most image backups are quite large, mine are usually in the 15 - 20 Gigabit range, and I don't backup pictures or data with my images. I backup pictures and sensitive data separately on external drives ( I have 3 for redundancy) and I also have data backups on a flash drive in our safety deposit box. At the very least you should be backing up your data to DVDs or whatever you have, if you don't backup you will eventually lose everything, it's not a matter of "if" it's a matter of "when". |
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| wildie | Sep 15 2013, 10:41 AM Post #20 |
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Fuzzy, perhaps you should rephrase your question. If a restore point is missing, it cannot be restored! Its been erased and is history. I think that you meant that if a Windows install, is resored from an existing restore point, will it resolve his start up problems. If so, its conceivable that his problems may, perhaps be caused by registry corruption and system restore would correct this. If system restore has been running as it should, and there are, valid restore points available, it won't hurt to try and see if it fixes it. If you restore to an earlier time, System Restore can also return the system to the latest point, if turning back doesn't work. |
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| wildie | Sep 15 2013, 10:48 AM Post #21 |
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No! Restore disks must be generated from the pertinent machine! |
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| wildie | Sep 15 2013, 10:53 AM Post #22 |
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A pain for sure! In the past, when I had to do this, its took me over two weeks to get things back to the original state. Thats why having a backup on an external hard drive is so important! |
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| wildie | Sep 15 2013, 10:57 AM Post #23 |
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Yahbut! A good house cleaning is beneficial. A large percent of what we accumulate on our computers is crap! in the days of yore, it was recommended that we would format and reinstall everything annually! |
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| dogleg | Sep 15 2013, 10:57 AM Post #24 |
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DT: Thanks. I used Malwarebytes and scanned my files. No problems were reported. However My start-up will begin then it will try to shut down only to pick up again. Occasionally my computer will shut down for no obvious reason. I have deleted most programs that I have downloaded in recent weeks -no effect. I can't try a restore of course because I reset my restore points. My main fan is running slow but the board fan is OK so I don't expect any overheating. I removed the cover and everything is cool. No dust. In spite of what Malwarebytes says I still think I am infected. What do you think? Thanks. |
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| Dialtone | Sep 15 2013, 12:16 PM Post #25 |
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Actually, I suspect you have some other issue than an infection of some sort. You mentioned programs you downloaded, but uninstalled.. these usually leave behind all sorts of garbage because they think eventually you will reinstall their program or a company related program again. So, first, create a new restore point if you can so you have a starting point. As mentioned a few times before, download the free program CCleaner at http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download (download it from piriform) and then use the Cleaner option to get rid of any crapola it finds. Next click the Registry tab, scan for issues, remove all issues. Important.. restart. Start CCleaner again and then click the tools tab, and then startup, windows tab, uncheck everything (yes, everything). Restart, and see how that works for you. I also see you have a thread about a new computer, that's your best option, 2004 is almost 10 years ago.. got to keep up with the times. Good luck you old dog. laugh123
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| FuzzyO | Sep 15 2013, 01:43 PM Post #26 |
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Yes, I put it badly but assumed people would understand. I meant will restoring restore capability fix the startup issues. I see Dialtone has recommended CCleaner which is always a good go-to. I've never gone as far as the last step though! |
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| Delphi51 | Sep 15 2013, 02:21 PM Post #27 |
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Another thing you might try for the startup issue is a repair procedure. You normally do it by booting from a Windows XP install CD (for any XP computer), though some computers come with the Windows Recovery Console boot up on a small partition of the hard drive. You may have to change your CMOS settings to allow booting from a CD. Once booted with the CD, you choose "Repair" and select your windows installation, normally c:\windows. I don't know if this is a duplication but after waiting five minutes for that Windows console boot, I always also exit to the command prompt and enter these commands: Fixboot c: Fixmbr Chkdsk c: /R The chkdsk will be quick if it finds nothing wrong. I have sometimes waited two hours for it to work despite it being apparently stalled and it was well worth it. This old program seems to do way more than the modern scan disk feature in Windows. I don't share the view that an old XP computer should be upgraded to win 7 or win 8; I would stick with XP on that computer or buy a new one. Just my experience with low end computers. It isn't all that difficult to reinstall windows especially when your machine runs well enough to back up your valuables on a memory stick. I like Wildie's idea of getting a new hard drive, which gets rid of all the problems of an old drive but you may have trouble finding one for an old computer. Basically you boot up the windows or restore cd that came with the computer and choose to restore to factory condition or install windows. If you don't have the install CD for your computer, any win XP installation disk will work to install windows, except you will have to download the drivers for your computer and install them after windows is installed and running. You will also need the code on the windows sticker on your computer (which must match the type of the CD - home, pro, etc) to register it. I did all this with two laptops last week and the only loss was failure to get the right video driver for one of them so it would not hibernate and won't play video games as well as it should. Edited by Delphi51, Sep 15 2013, 02:27 PM.
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| wildie | Sep 15 2013, 02:27 PM Post #28 |
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` will restoring restore capability fix the startup issues.` If System Restore is turned off, all the restore files are purged. So, turning it on again, will not allow the system to be restored until a new series of restore points are established! |
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| wildie | Sep 15 2013, 02:46 PM Post #29 |
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Good advice Delphi! its been years since I have done this and quite frankly, I`d forgotten about this! I don`t have any, working XP computers around anymore. Although I do still have an XP cd. Up-grading an XP machine to Win7 is certainly a waste of time and money. XP machines do not usually have enough resource such as memory and hard drive space to function. Although I did upgrade my Vista laptop to Win8! Its long in the tooth, but came with lots of memory and drive space. Its a HP Pavillion and I am quite fond of it! he! he! Of course, I took advantage of the get acquainted offer from MS and it only cost me $40. |
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| FuzzyO | Sep 15 2013, 04:36 PM Post #30 |
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I see I still haven't made my point! Let me try another way: is there a connection between System Restore and issues with start-up? |
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