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Can't Set a Restore Point
Topic Started: Sep 14 2013, 04:38 AM (648 Views)
Delphi51
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System Restore rewrites all the files used in starting up Windows so it should make Windows start up just as well as it did when the restore point was saved. Unfortunately Dogleg has no saved restore points so System Restore cannot do anything for this problem.
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Delphi51
Sep 15 2013, 05:11 PM
System Restore rewrites all the files used in starting up Windows so it should make Windows start up just as well as it did when the restore point was saved. Unfortunately Dogleg has no saved restore points so System Restore cannot do anything for this problem.
Is one supposed to save restore points on a regular basis?
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Wildie, or anyone else.

If I have all my EVERYTHING on a single Drive, C:, can I just make a complete exact copy of C: on a big flash drive, or a terabyte USB3 plug in hard drive, can that drive then be used to replace C: whenever I needed it, without resorting to any "restore DVD's" or "backup discs?"
Is there a need to separate system and data?

To rephrase, can I save a complete copy of my computer as it is this morning and then install after a complete reformat or must I first put in an operating system? Could I replace current C: with a yesterday's C: simply with a drag and drop WITHOUT even a reformat?
Edited by Trotsky, Sep 16 2013, 01:09 AM.
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You can use a second hard drive, clone your present C drive to it, then swap the SATA and power cords. I do this every couple months with a spare drive I have just in case my present C drive fails. The actual swap takes about 1 minute, and having a complete total image on another drive is another safety factor. To my knowledge, you can't run your computer/operating system from a USB drive, the USB drive depends on the OS for drivers and the interface would be slow and congested. What some users have is a SATA toaster, an interface that looks like a toaster but has a couple hard drives in the slots connected to the SATA ports of the motherboard. You can swap drives in and out in seconds, and the included software allows complete cloning. I've never used one, but from what I see they can be used with SATA or USB. http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Toaster,Duo,USB3,0,2,Bay,For,HDD,Sata,Toaster,Warranty,,374101.php?prod=374101
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Thanks to all for the help. I think I am going to save myself a lot of time and grief and go out today and spend some of my wife's money on a new laptop. I will save everything on my old dog and move on. When I 'burn' my old one we will have a farewell ceremony and dance around it with spears!!
Edited by dogleg, Sep 16 2013, 04:25 AM.
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Is the easiest way to save all my my data ( pictures , banking, emails, etc) from the old one and transfer it to the new one a USB Key?
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Sep 16 2013, 04:55 AM
Is the easiest way to save all my my data ( pictures , banking, emails, etc) from the old one and transfer it to the new one a USB Key?
A USB flash drive is one way saving and transferring all your data. Depending on how much stuff you have, they are available from 4 Gig all the way up to 64 Gig, you can buy a 16 gig USB flash drive for about $20 or less. If you're going to spend some money and buy a laptop, then may as well buy an external hard drive and back up all your data, pictures, and everything else to it. I would advise you to make at least 2 copies of your important stuff, (3 is better), you can burn pictures and data to a CD or DVD, copy to a USB flash drive, or copy to an external drive. When you get your new laptop, keep your old PC, clean it up and then use it to backup stuff to, you never know when it will come in handy. When it comes to backups there are lots of options, including free online storage like Skydrive or even places like Gmail or Outlook since every account has drive space associated, just don't store anything sensitive online. Good luck with your new purchase, you won't be sorry you upgraded.
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Sep 15 2013, 04:36 PM
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Sep 15 2013, 02:27 PM

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I see I still haven't made my point! Let me try another way: is there a connection between System Restore and issues with start-up?
Not initially, as the BIOS (XP machine) has control and displays the screen prompts. Without any user input the boot process is passede over to Windows.
In Windows the registry is opened and commands are acted on.

So if the registry is corrupt a system reztore will perhaps fix things.
On the other hand, for instance the boot batch files are damaged then restore won't work.
In this case, you would then follow the routine that Delphi posted.
Vista, Win7 and Win8 are different!
Edited by wildie, Sep 16 2013, 06:16 AM.
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I see I still haven't made my point! Let me try another way: is there a connection between System Restore and issues with start-up?


Let me take it from a different angle.
If there had been a serious attack on the computer that disabled Sysytem Restore AND the system, then yes, the same attack could prevent the operating system from loading properly.

That last big hit that some of us took with the "FBI WARNING Trojan" was loaded before the operating system could load Windows properly. It prevented both use of System Restore and proper startup.
Edited by Trotsky, Sep 17 2013, 01:32 AM.
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