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electric stove
Topic Started: Nov 29 2013, 06:06 AM (828 Views)
haili	Nov 29 2013, 06:06 AM Post #1
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,084 Group: Member Member #387 Joined: September 15, 2006	I should replace my 30 inch electric stove one of these days and am not sure whether to get the glass topped one or stick to the old style burners. Some people like the glass tops and others find them hard to clean. I just want a basic stove with a self-cleaning oven and like dealing with the rep. at Sears, though Sears sounds kind of shaky these days. Any advice?

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wildie	Dec 1 2013, 02:47 PM Post #31
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	Olive Oil Dec 1 2013, 05:31 AM wildie Nov 30 2013, 05:15 PM Do you have a 220 volt outlet to plug an electric stove into? All stoves sold in Canada are required to have an electrical cord. If not, the power cable will have to be terminated in a 220 volt receptical. It's the gas piping that I don't have in the kitchen. The house is heated with gas but I think it would be a huge job to run a line into the kitchen. If you already have gas in the house, all they need do is run a flexible copper line from the present gas line to the stove location. It may be possible to have this installed by the people selling the stove as part of the price. When I changed my furnace from oil to gas, they arranged to have gas installed in the house by the gas company, they ran the line from the meter to the furnace at no extra charge!



Dialtone	Dec 1 2013, 03:23 PM Post #32
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	I put a gas furnace into our garage about 15 years ago, the gas fitter just ran a flexible gas line, (not the old cast iron pipe with thread seal on every joint ) and was done in a couple hours, total cost $120 plus the permit. Of course the difficulty / cost in running a gas line into a kitchen area is what is developed under the kitchen, and where the line has to run in relation to the present gas line. In our present house, since it's totally developed up and down, it would be a major undertaking to run a gas line anywhere, not worth the effort IMO. If I want to cook with gas, I fire up the NG BBQ, (we usually BBQ year round ) or if there is a power outage, I bring in my Coleman 2 burner propane stove.. works like a charm on the kitchen counter. Edited by Dialtone, Dec 1 2013, 03:43 PM.



wildie	Dec 1 2013, 03:46 PM Post #33
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	Dialtone Dec 1 2013, 03:23 PM I put a gas furnace into our garage about 15 years ago, the gas fitter just ran a flexible gas line, (not the old cast iron pipe with thread seal on every joint ) and was done in a couple hours, total cost $120 plus the permit. Of course the difficulty / cost in running a gas line into a kitchen area is what is developed under the kitchen, and where the line has to run in relation to the present gas line. In our present house, since it's totally developed up and down, it would be a major undertaking to run a gas line anywhere, not worth the effort IMO. If I want to cook with gas, I go camping or if there is a power outage, I bring in my Coleman 2 burner propane stove.. works like a charm on the kitchen counter. Would using an unvented propane stove in the kitchen not be dangerous due to production of carbon monoxide? Make sure you have a working CO detector!



Dialtone	Dec 1 2013, 03:55 PM Post #34
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	I doubt a 2 burner propane camp stove is any more dangerous for fumes than an unvented 4 burner complete with oven natural gas stove. In my 5th wheel, I have a 3 burner propane stove with oven, all unvented.. but I leave a top hatch open, in a much closer space. In most States in the US, you can buy unvented natural gas fireplaces.. pity they aren't available here. Edited by Dialtone, Dec 1 2013, 03:58 PM.



Trotsky	Dec 2 2013, 01:48 AM Post #35
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Most homes are not so tight that they would present a problem with a 2 burner propane rig. I heated my last apartment with natural gas stove burners (electrical resistance heat was $$$nuts$$$) and my own CO tester, the good one with the LED numbers, rarely got over 10 ppm and NEVER over 20ppm. Most cheap CO testers start a warning beep at 30 ppm. I never once heard the owner installed one. Since I sometimes had a burner on for 24 hours on the coldest days, I made sure there was a little venting. Edited by Trotsky, Dec 2 2013, 02:05 AM.



FuzzyO	Dec 2 2013, 05:49 AM Post #36
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	There was something on the news the other day about making CO detectors mandatory. I think that there is absolutely no need for one in a house that's 160-some years old. I suppose it makes sense for new buildings.



Darcie	Dec 2 2013, 06:00 AM Post #37
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	I sure wish there had been testers available, my whole life was changed because of carbon monoxide, it is insidious and dangerous even at low readings.



Dialtone	Dec 2 2013, 06:06 AM Post #38
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Our old 50 yr old farm house had a wood stove for cooking when we moved in .. way back in the late 1950s. My father installed a full sized 4 burner propane stove with oven beside it, we had 2 50lb tanks outside the house, they lasted about a year before needing to be refilled. There was no need for fresh air, the window sills had mini-snow drifts on the inside when the wind blew in winter, some mornings you could see your breath in my bedroom.. ah the good old days. This talk reminds me that I should go out to our trailer and get my propane stove today, we are under a serious weather advisory, with blowing snow, extreme cold, and all round nastiness starting tomorrow. I like to be prepared for power outages, been through many and when the temps get down to -30C or so with a wind, a person needs to be prepared.. it's dangerous. Our area is forecast for -27 the middle of next week, but further north it's in the -30s. So much for our heat wave last week. :cold:



Olive Oil	Dec 2 2013, 06:07 AM Post #39
Gold Star Member Posts: 4,747 Group: Member Member #785 Joined: June 10, 2010	FuzzyO Dec 2 2013, 05:49 AM There was something on the news the other day about making CO detectors mandatory. I think that there is absolutely no need for one in a house that's 160-some years old. I suppose it makes sense for new buildings. My house is not very tight (older windows, etc) built in the 50s. I was surprised when I had the government energy audit done a few years ago (in order to get a discount of my new furnace) it was found that when the downstairs bathroom fan was running, my house reached dangerous C0 levels quite quickly. When the kids lived at home, they were always leaving it on.



wildie	Dec 2 2013, 04:42 PM Post #40
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	My place at the lake has an airtight, wood burning stove. It has an 8" chimney pipe! I was told that I must use a working CO detector at all times while using it! I never ever heard of a wood fire producing CO, but I complied anyway! A new law in Ontario has just been passed, that requires all homes to have CO detectors installed. This came about because a Woodstock family, mother, father and two choldren died because the vent for their natural gas heater in the basement recreation room had a blockage. The mother was employed by the Ontario Provincial Police as a constable. BBQs in garages are another source of dangerous CO levels. CO is produced by incomplete combustion and any thing burning is capable of producing it! To my mind, its better to be safe than sorry! As sorry means death!



campy	Dec 2 2013, 09:02 PM Post #41
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	CO 2 detectors are a good idea. If your chimney gets blocked you are a dead duck regardless of a drafty house.



Trotsky	Dec 4 2013, 02:39 AM Post #42
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Quote: I never ever heard of a wood fire producing CO Growing in popularity as a suicide method is the taking of a charcoal fired brasier into a small sealed bathroom and enjoying a few drinks. After all what is a glowing charcoal but a wood fire? Nearly all stater have some demands requiring the installation and regular inspection of Smoke AND CO testers. Lately many cheap battery operated models include both functions for under $20. Edited by Trotsky, Dec 4 2013, 02:44 AM.



Darcie	Dec 4 2013, 02:55 AM Post #43
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Any building that burns anything should have a CO detector, don't take chances, wood burning fireplaces do give off CO. Even a hot water oil or gas heater gives off CO. About the only thing that doesn't is hydro.



reactivate	Dec 4 2013, 08:23 AM Post #44
Gold Star Member Posts: 3,897 Group: Member Member #769 Joined: May 18, 2010	Given the Ontario Government's plan to increase electrical costs to the point where we will all be paying about 50% more in a few years, my next stove will be a gas stove and my next clothes dryer will be gas. I would change my refrigerator and all lighting as well if it were reasonable. The Liberals in Ontario have so screwed up the electrical system that we are investing billions in cancelling gas powered plants and building unbelievably expensive wind and solar facilities that electricity is predicted to become so expensive that industry will evacuate Ontario, never to return. I wonder who the Liberals will tax then.



wildie	Dec 4 2013, 09:47 AM Post #45
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	reactivate Dec 4 2013, 08:23 AM Given the Ontario Government's plan to increase electrical costs to the point where we will all be paying about 50% more in a few years, my next stove will be a gas stove and my next clothes dryer will be gas. I would change my refrigerator and all lighting as well if it were reasonable. The Liberals in Ontario have so screwed up the electrical system that we are investing billions in cancelling gas powered plants and building unbelievably expensive wind and solar facilities that electricity is predicted to become so expensive that industry will evacuate Ontario, never to return. I wonder who the Liberals will tax then. AHMEN!



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