Wireless code gives customers new rights starting today

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Wireless code gives customers new rights starting today
Topic Started: Dec 4 2013, 02:00 AM (603 Views)
Darcie	Dec 4 2013, 02:00 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: Cellphone customers will get caps on their excess data and roaming fees and other new rights starting today, under the CRTC's new Wireless Code of Conduct. The code, which will apply to all new contracts signed starting Monday and to all contracts by June 3, 2015, allows customers to cancel contracts at no cost after a maximum of two years. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/wireless-code-gives-customers-new-rights-starting-today-1.2448037?cmp=rss Why the delay in implementation?



campy	Dec 4 2013, 05:35 AM Post #2
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	Quote: Why the delay in implementation? You can't see the good in anything?



Darcie	Dec 4 2013, 07:48 AM Post #3
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	campy Dec 4 2013, 05:35 AM Quote: Why the delay in implementation? You can't see the good in anything? I know good when I see it. Nothing good in waiting, what for, the benefit of the companies who have been doing this, what the heck give them more time to do it to us over again. I know crap when I see it.



reactivate	Dec 4 2013, 07:53 AM Post #4
Gold Star Member Posts: 3,897 Group: Member Member #769 Joined: May 18, 2010	Darcie Dec 4 2013, 02:00 AM Quote: Cellphone customers will get caps on their excess data and roaming fees and other new rights starting today, under the CRTC's new Wireless Code of Conduct. The code, which will apply to all new contracts signed starting Monday and to all contracts by June 3, 2015, allows customers to cancel contracts at no cost after a maximum of two years. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/wireless-code-gives-customers-new-rights-starting-today-1.2448037?cmp=rss Why the delay in implementation? Think about it!



campy	Dec 4 2013, 08:16 AM Post #5
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	Darcie Dec 4 2013, 07:48 AM campy Dec 4 2013, 05:35 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I know good when I see it. Nothing good in waiting, what for, the benefit of the companies who have been doing this, what the heck give them more time to do it to us over again. I know crap when I see it. Read the link. There is a challenge. Also the companies need time to switch the contracts when they are up. You know crap? You know zilch.



wildie	Dec 4 2013, 08:30 AM Post #6
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	I'm given to believe that these new regs. apply to new contracts only. And that existing contracts cannot be canceled until 2015. My contract matures in August of 2014. I had hoped to terminate it now and am disappointed find that I must continue to be gouged by the telco for another 8 months. Lets face it, the capital expense for cell service is a fraction of what is necessary for wired service. Wired service is profitable for a nominal fee of perhaps $40/month, so obviously wireless providers are raking in the profits at the expense of the Canadian public. Common thieves are stopped from stealing when they are apprehended, and the cell phone company's should have been ordered to seize and desist immediately!



campy	Dec 4 2013, 08:58 AM Post #7
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	I have pay as you go. Why get a contract in the first place?



Delphi51	Dec 4 2013, 09:13 AM Post #8
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	I don't understand why people like the restriction to two year contracts. Now they have to pay for their smartphones over a shorter time, so the monthly payment will be higher. The other items look good - particularly caps on what have been ridiculously high charges for data over the plan and roaming. And unlocking the phone so you can switch companies without throwing the phone away. Edited by Delphi51, Dec 4 2013, 09:16 AM.



Dialtone	Dec 4 2013, 11:41 AM Post #9
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	wildie Dec 4 2013, 08:30 AM Lets face it, the capital expense for cell service is a fraction of what is necessary for wired service. Wired service is profitable for a nominal fee of perhaps $40/month, so obviously wireless providers are raking in the profits at the expense of the Canadian public. Common thieves are stopped from stealing when they are apprehended, and the cell phone company's should have been ordered to seize and desist immediately! Cell phone service costs billions to run and maintain. IMO, the biggest bandit is the Government who auctions off the spectrum to carry the cell phone signals, yet the "air" doesn't cost them anything, basically true "money for nothing". Every time there is a spectrum auction, the Cell phone companies cough up billions for the right to use the frequencies, these billions go right into government coffers. On top of the spectrum, the admin and maintenance of those thousands of cell towers, data equipment, national coverage, billing, and CRTC mandates all go into the price of cellular service.... and of course the companies must remain profitable to remain in business. Although a lot of business people, texters, tweeters, and runatthemouths wouldn't be without a their smart phones, no one is being forced to own one.



Darcie	Dec 4 2013, 11:48 AM Post #10
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	If the companies in the US can make profits with a lower fee, what is so inept with Canadian companies that they have to gouge us to make a profit? And pray tell why should one accept to be taken by these money grubbing companies? I should not be forced to be scammed.



Dialtone	Dec 4 2013, 12:32 PM Post #11
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	All cars made in Canada are exported and sold cheaper in the US than Canada.. if you want to talk about being gouged and scammed. Why is that ? And yet, Canadians buy millions of GMs, Fords, and Chryslers, is anyone forcing the people to buy cars ? If you don't want a specific car, don't buy one... same with cell phones. I pay $10 a month for my cell phone, it sits in my vehicle most of the time, and I don't feel gouged or scammed at all.



goldengal	Dec 4 2013, 12:40 PM Post #12
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	I put $25 in my cell every two months. I use it for emergency purposes only, or to call my daughter when I arrive at her apartment building, and she comes down to meet me. In January I am going to commence paying $100/year (new plan they have out) which will save $50 yearly over what I am currently paying. Unlike many of my friends, I feel no need to talk on a cell all the time. Take care, Pat



wildie	Dec 4 2013, 12:53 PM Post #13
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	Dialtone Dec 4 2013, 11:41 AM wildie Dec 4 2013, 08:30 AM Lets face it, the capital expense for cell service is a fraction of what is necessary for wired service. Wired service is profitable for a nominal fee of perhaps $40/month, so obviously wireless providers are raking in the profits at the expense of the Canadian public. Common thieves are stopped from stealing when they are apprehended, and the cell phone company's should have been ordered to seize and desist immediately! Cell phone service costs billions to run and maintain. IMO, the biggest bandit is the Government who auctions off the spectrum to carry the cell phone signals, yet the "air" doesn't cost them anything, basically true "money for nothing". Every time there is a spectrum auction, the Cell phone companies cough up billions for the right to use the frequencies, these billions go right into government coffers. On top of the spectrum, the admin and maintenance of those thousands of cell towers, data equipment, national coverage, billing, and CRTC mandates all go into the price of cellular service.... and of course the companies must remain profitable to remain in business. Although a lot of business people, texters, tweeters, and runatthemouths wouldn't be without a their smart phones, no one is being forced to own one. Quote: Cell phone service costs billions to run and maintain. But how does this compare with wireline phone service, Fred! Wireline has physical assets such as poles, terminals, repeaters, carrier systems, remote digital distributers, digital central offices etc. The list goes on and on. The wireline network has of course been put in place over the course of time and in fact is probably been paid for years ago. However, its value is many times over what the cost of the cell network would be. The real reason for the disparity is that the CRTC controls the cost of wireline service, whereas the cell service has no control and the providers are free to charge what ever the traffic will bear!



campy	Dec 4 2013, 01:13 PM Post #14
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	Does anyone remember when the price of sugar skyrocketed? People just stopped buying it. Then the price came down. I don't understand why people have to switch phones just because the colour changes? Stop buying expensive cell phones and contracts and the price will come down as it has in the U.S.



wildie	Dec 4 2013, 01:58 PM Post #15
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	campy Dec 4 2013, 01:13 PM Does anyone remember when the price of sugar skyrocketed? People just stopped buying it. Then the price came down. I don't understand why people have to switch phones just because the colour changes? Stop buying expensive cell phones and contracts and the price will come down as it has in the U.S. Your asking us to give up our SMART phones! Give your head a shake! bounce and jump045



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