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| Children & Food Allergies; CBC report complete reversal of guidelines. | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 4 2013, 01:46 PM (447 Views) | |
| Olive Oil | Dec 4 2013, 01:46 PM Post #1 |
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According to the CBC news, doctors are now telling parents not to hold back on foods that cause allergies such as tree nuts peanuts and shell fish. This is a reversal to what doctors have been advising parents. There are now l in l0 kids with a peanut allergy because children do not produce antibodies early in life to these foods. I've always wondered how this condition got so widespread. We hardly ever heard of these allergies years ago. Pregnant women are also being urged to keep these foods in their diet. |
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| Darcie | Dec 4 2013, 01:57 PM Post #2 |
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Finally, common sense, I could not figure out why they kept those foods away from babies. |
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| Durgan | Dec 4 2013, 03:29 PM Post #3 |
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They keep some foods away from the kids, because some swell up or bloat like a balloon and die. |
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| margaret | Dec 5 2013, 02:32 AM Post #4 |
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I believe that the changing of our foods is to blame. You are taking a chance feeding children these foods and doctors are now claiming that autism is caused by what is being done to our food. We would all be safer if we grew our own food. ate what is locally grown and never used the sprays and fertilizers that are promoted by big business. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 21 2014, 03:56 PM Post #5 |
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I beg to differ. I have allergies and my youngest son did when as a fetus developed allergies making me very sick. That comes from an allergist who told me this. After he was born his face was a rash right down to his shoulders. He was okay for a while when I breast fed but when trying to introduce him to milk, he did a projectile vomit and had severe diahrea. He slept on his hands & knees pulled up due to stomach cramps .. changing his diaper he cried because he had to lay flat. When I tried to introduce solid food, namely eggs, he turned red & blue and went into shock. At that time doctors made house calls & had no idea why the baby went into shock. A mosquito bite turned blue the size of a quarter and was poisoning his system - when taken to emergency I was told that had I not brought him in when I did, in another hour he would have died. He touched a broken raw egg and when he placed his hand to his mouth with egg on it, he gasped to breathe and off to emergency we went where he was given an injection of prednisone to bring down the reaction. This affected his eye sight where he could not see for several days and recovery took more than a week. This is only one of many incidents throughout his 46 years of life that he faced death. It is not something one should scoff at. Until one has dealt with an allergic child, one has no idea what it is all about - the child goes through hell not only with the allergy condition but the lack of understanding and bullying from other students and teachers making fun of the child. He came home from school with a double nostril nose bleed because he was made to rest on the floor with other students ... the nose bleeds were caused from the dust to which he was allergic. No matter how much I told the teachers not to do it, they did saying he cannot receive any special treatment. A double nosebleed terrified the child and he would leave the school and come home when it happened. Teachers would phone telling me he cannot do that and I replied that they should not force him to lie on a dusty floor as that is what happens. I spoke to deaf ears. An allergist gave weekly injections, very very small dose, of the very foods the child was allergic to desensitize him. It was not until late adulthood before he could tolerate most food. Doctors need to speak to people who have experienced these incidents and not from books and so called "research" with lab rats or whatever. I feel that these children should not be unnecessarily exposed to allergens - they do suffer. Allergies will also make a child hyperactive especially if they even lick food they cannot have ... they get so wired it is like a hurricane passing through the house. Teachers began labeling the child as having a mental condition so on that basis, I took him and had him evaluated professionally. The report came back that at 9.5 years of age, he was working pre-grade one level but his IQ was that of a 13 year old. This young man still suffers allergies but he also with proper love & support holds a pilots license, a champion black belt martial artist; finished university and holds a responsible job. Parents should never neglect these children as they tend to build a low self esteem .. they need the parent support more than ever if they are to make it in life and not wind up in jail. I am very proud of being a stay at home mom to care for him as opposed to earning that extra buck ... not easy but I would do it again in a heartbeat. |
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| Darcie | Jan 21 2014, 04:08 PM Post #6 |
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My grandson was desensitized with dairy products from about 1 month old, my daughter had the same problem but they we used to keep them away from the food. He was OK from 2 on, the doctor finally treated my daughter and she is now fine, but I have to be careful about how often I have dairy. In our family it worked well to give the food in question. Figure my daughter got that way because I never had dairy when pregnant and neither did she with her son. This sort of ties in with what the doctors are saying. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 21 2014, 04:31 PM Post #7 |
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Darcie - Then it wasn't a true allergy but a food intolerance which can be treated. Allergies are a lifetime battle which change & are life threatening. If I had given the food to my son he would not be alive today. Seeing a child in allergic shock is not something a child wants to go through nor does the parent. There is a balance between introduction of food and how it is introduced and well monitored. People are affected differently. Anyone who says they allergies are gone, did not have allergy but food intolerance. I have had allergies all my life, every time I eat something I am allergic to, I have very rude reactions and become ill. One's immune system fights food in the same way it will fight bad bacteria. |
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| FuzzyO | Jan 21 2014, 05:06 PM Post #8 |
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You can develop a food allergy later in life. As you say, Toodles, most symptoms that show up later in life are food intolerances, but it is also possible to acquire a food allergy to something that you could tolerate earlier. I have an intolerance to shellfish, and some fish, but I am allergic to tuna and yet as I child I ate tuna sandwiches and as an adult I ate tuna dishes until my mid-forties when all these food problems came on. It will be interesting to see if now allowing pregnant moms and young children to eat peanut butter will reduce the number of kids affected. |
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| David | Jan 21 2014, 06:29 PM Post #9 |
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Toodles is right. Food allergies cause a definite immune response and it can be scary. I've seen a few kids comes come in the ER over the years after exposure to peanuts and it's a real emergency. Food intolerance is usually limited to digestive problems. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 21 2014, 07:27 PM Post #10 |
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You are correct FuzzyO that food allergies do change with age. It is said it creeps up in infancy; puberty and adulthood & do change back & forth. My son was never allergic to garlic and suddenly he was and has to avoid it as much as possible. I am allergic to milk and always have been but I can still have cheese in moderation.. go figure. I get sick on milk so I avoid it. I use Almond milk on cereal. Oats is a grain I can only have in moderation otherwise my whole body itches and drives me crazy. The allergist once told me there is a way to identify an allergy so I watched the son carefully to see if what I was told was true and it was ... * if your child uses his/her hand on a runny nose and pushes upwards, then it is allergy but if side to side it isn't. * Allergic children will have a fine white line across the bridge of their nose ... my kid had this line. One that does not have an allergy will not have that line. * another thing to watch is those with true allergies usually have dark shadows or redness under their eyes. My son showed both. * He spent 6 wks. in a hospital in Ottawa undergoing various tests and one was to rule out celiac disease. The allergist concluded that the lad was one of very few children that had the worst case he had ever seen. Not very comforting to hear that but something I had to learn to deal with and live with. I also learned from my doctor that when the child was going into shock, to pinch at the back of the knees to keep the child from slipping under. I had to do that when he was in the hospital after having unknowingly eaten something he should not have. He still watches his diet carefully. Allergic children do not go into a deep sleep ... neither do I. We hear everything that goes on around us. The child was allergic to; all citrus; all milk products including beef; dust, pollen, grass, wool, oats, wheat, eggs, chicken, are a few I can remember at this time. I had to make all the baby food .. actually the only meat he could eat was Lamb. He never tasted beef until he was about 9 yrs. of age. I bought apple juice by the case as it was the only juice that did not cause adverse effects. He can eat an egg now but in moderation ... milk he still has to avoid but not cheese. He shows no signs of hyperactivity .. one needs to place a firecracker under him to get him motivated. oooh 02 |
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| FuzzyO | Jan 22 2014, 12:30 AM Post #11 |
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Poor kid, and well done Mom! Not an easy time of it. I have one friend who has a broad spectrum of allergies and I know how difficult life can be in that situation.
Edited by FuzzyO, Jan 22 2014, 12:31 AM.
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| reactivate | Jan 22 2014, 01:03 AM Post #12 |
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Food allergies do indeed occur but this new recommendation is an effort to decrease the number that occur. It is based on the same principle that an allergist uses to "desensitise" some with an already developed allergy. By not avoiding allergy producing foods during pregnancy and early childhood, the child becomes desensitised and never develops an allergy. The danger in this approach, as I see it, is that, while it may produce far fewer cases of individuals becoming allergic to these foods, it also will trigger allergic reactions in children who have an allergy that cannot be mitigated with a desensitising approach. Such triggering will result in some deaths. I presume the medical recommendations to not avoid these foods early on is based on the expectation that the deaths among the many allergic children resulting from avoiding certain foods is greater than the few deaths triggered by certain foods in children with systemic allergies. Public Health authorities probably don't like to say it openly but some deaths are inevitable and the best route is to select a recommendation that minimizes the number of deaths. |
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| Darcie | Jan 22 2014, 02:45 AM Post #13 |
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David my grandson used to get large slashes over his body that were hives according to the allergist. We were also told that he could get them internally and die of anaphylactic shock, and that is a true allergy. We three are not intolerant to lactose but allergic to one of the proteins in the milk according to McGill University Hospital. We all carry epi pens as well as some type of pill just in case, my grandson because of dairy and I because I am allergic to bee stings. I can get a rash if I take milk, but not yogurt or cheese. The specialist called it an allergy, not an intolerance. Not being a professional I do take his word on it. My niece is allergic to fresh water fish and did develop it later in life, just as I developed an allergy to something in printer's in about 20 years ago. I sneeze a lot and get a rash if I touch the newspaper before the print has had time to dry or sometimes I put the paper in a very low oven. Edited by Darcie, Jan 22 2014, 02:46 AM.
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| Olive Oil | Jan 22 2014, 05:06 AM Post #14 |
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I too, have a severely allergic child (tree nuts) and I know how serious this matter can be. She carries a epi pen at all times and just a chef using a pan that touched nuts has triggered a response. The program I watched claims that doctors are now encouraging mothers to eat a wide variety of foods to pass immunity on to their children. I understand that peanut allergy in kids has skyrocketed since doctors told mothers to avoid peanuts and other foods. I am in no way suggesting what Moms should do but find it interesting that the approach is changing. . |
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| heatseeker | Jan 22 2014, 05:26 AM Post #15 |
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I don't know about food allergies, but other allergies have been shown to arise because people are too clean. Exposure to the microbes in soil vastly reduces allergic reactions. This was put to the test when east and west Germany were reunited. Scientists assumed that east Germans would have much higher rates of allergies because of pollution. In fact, their allergy rate was much lower than people in west Germany. Study showed that this was because many grew their own vegetables or bought vegetables that were sold with dirt on them. Hygiene Hypothesis: Millions of people suffer from the sneezing and wheezing of allergies and asthma, diseases that have suddenly become epidemic in some parts of the world. Initially, scientists blamed increasing air pollution for the surge in respiratory diseases. In the late 1990s, Dr. Erika Von Mutius, a health researcher, compared the rates of allergies and asthma in East and West Germany. Her hypothesis was that children growing up in the poorer, dirtier, and generally less healthful cities of East Germany would suffer more from allergy and asthma than youngsters in West Germany, with its cleaner and more modern environment. When the two regions were reunified in 1999, von Mutius compared the disease rates. "What we found was exactly the opposite'' of her hypothesis, she recalls. Children in the polluted areas of East Germany had lower allergic reactions and fewer cases of asthma than children in the West. What was going on? As sometimes happens to scientists, von Mutius was forced to abandon her original hypothesis and rethink the question based on her new observations. For one thing, von Mutius realized, there are many lifestyle differences between the former two Germanys, including family size and the more prevalent use of daycare for young children in East Germany. Today, her new hypothesis, dubbed "The Hygiene Hypothesis," is that children who are around numerous other children or animals early in life are exposed to more microbes, and their immune systems develop more tolerance for the irritants that cause asthma. She is now researching the levels of allergy and asthma in children who live in villages as compared with children who live on a farm and are exposed to livestock. According to this "hygiene hypothesis,'' the human immune system evolved two types of biological defenses. When one defensive system lacks practice fighting bacteria and viruses, perhaps from an overly sanitary lifestyle, the other system becomes too powerful and overreacts -- as an allergic reaction -- to harmless substances like pollen. Edited by heatseeker, Jan 22 2014, 05:28 AM.
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