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| Giant wetas to be released on islands | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 3 2014, 12:09 PM (712 Views) | |
| Kahu | Apr 5 2014, 01:28 PM Post #16 |
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Angora ... as an inhabitant of the very LAST piece of planet Earth to be populated by humans ... we know that humans are the ONLY species who can both degrade and regenerate their environment, and provide some protection for those species which are defenseless to hazards we caused in the first place. Posted Image These species of native carnivorous snails are the largest in the world, some growing as big as a man’s fist. They suck up earthworms like spaghetti but are among our most threatened invertebrates. Rats and possums are major predators. Powelliphanta snails New Zealand is known as the seabird capital of the world and is also home to a number of forest birds that live nowhere else on Earth. Bats are New Zealand's only native land mammals.There are three species: the long-tailed bat, the lesser short-tailed bat, and greater short-tailed bat. The greater short-tailed bat is thought to be extinct. Tuatara are rare, medium-sized reptiles (adults ranging from about 300g to 1000g) found only in New Zealand. They are the only extant members of the Order Sphenodontia, which was well represented by many species during the age of the dinosaurs, some 200 million years ago. All species apart from the tuatara declined and eventually became extinct about 60 million years ago. Tuatara are therefore of huge international interest to biologists and are also recognised internationally and within New Zealand as species in need of active conservation management. Source Link Dactylanthus ... Source Link |
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| angora | Apr 6 2014, 01:41 AM Post #17 |
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I think I didn't explain myself clearly or we are talking on two entirely different levels. You seem to see yourself as an overseer while I see myself as part of the landscape. No meeting ground. |
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| Kahu | Apr 6 2014, 09:33 AM Post #18 |
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Probably talking past one another! One thing is sure, that if we don't try to even the odds of survival of some of these species they'll be lost forever. If they're lost forever that will affect other species which coexist with them now and those which are most noticeable to us now will become even fewer, as part of an almost, chain reaction. This entire earth is a holistic entity from the movement of terrestrial continental plates, to the smallest entities of life which inhabit hot pools, or the most frigid areas of the earth. |
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| angora | Apr 6 2014, 10:29 AM Post #19 |
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I agree, and that's as it will be. Not yours to decide nor mine. |
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| Kahu | Apr 6 2014, 12:33 PM Post #20 |
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That doesn't mean we'll stop our efforts though ... and continue to chivvy the recalcitrant northern hemisphere! |
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| Alli | Apr 6 2014, 02:00 PM Post #21 |
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Amazing story Kahu, I find these kinds of creatures absolutely incredible. I was the kind of girl who wasn't afraid of bugs in fact I loved even to this day observing their habits the remarkable colours and protective mechanisms they have. We can't allow these that have been around for thousands of years to disappear due to our neglect.... |
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| margaret | Apr 6 2014, 02:16 PM Post #22 |
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The cause of the loss of these small and large organisms is man and everything depends on the food chain and you can't lose part of it and maintain our world. |
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| Kahu | Apr 6 2014, 02:17 PM Post #23 |
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I've only touched the tip of the iceberg Alli ..... Posted Image Bereft of some of the more world-famous hunters such as lions, tigers and bears, New Zealand is lucky enough to have a predator that perhaps would be more at home in a science fiction film than in the undergrowth of our forests. Not bothering with such primitive adaptations as sharp claws and teeth to capture prey, this little hunter instead relies on a sticky net that it shoots out of turrets on its head. I am talking about the fascinating and ancient peripatus or velvet worm. This amazing little animal is one of our least known yet most fascinating and can be found in many of our forests, coastlands, even in places like the remote Denniston Plateau. In fact the peripatus has been found in rocky habitat in Otago's western mountains at an altitude of about 1800 metres. ...... Peripatus caused consternation with scientists in terms of where they fit in the big scheme of things, since they are long, fluid-filled wriggly creatures, but are not worms, and they have paired legs, but are not insects. They occasionally get described as a missing link, which isn't quite correct either - but they have been around for an extraordinarily long time. Our own "living dinosaurs", the tuatara, are mere babies compared to the far more ancient peripatus, whose ancestors were in the oceans more than 500 million years ago. Source Link |
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| angora | Apr 8 2014, 01:49 AM Post #24 |
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I work here with the Council for Canadians to help keep the water clean and pure. That is for the planet to survive. BTW I think your wetas are cute. :) |
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| Deleted User | Apr 8 2014, 09:52 AM Post #25 |
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Kahu, you are headed on your trip to a part of the USA where people believe earth was created by God only about 5,000 years ago, and children played with baby dinosaurs. Better keep quiet about Tuatara....as a matter of fact, better keep quiet about anything having to do with science. Seriously, however, I think you and Angora are having a fascinating debate....please continue. I find myself agreeing with each of you after reading respective posts. But I abhor insects so I am leaning towards Angora's POV. |
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| Kahu | Apr 8 2014, 10:48 AM Post #26 |
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Do you mean Virginia? Some of the natives have been Kiwified. Insects and all the other 'creepie crawlies' are all essential parts of the entire holistic environmental picture. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 8 2014, 12:02 PM Post #27 |
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I know that intellectually, Kahu, but on a gut, creepy crawlee basis, I can't stand them! Yes....there are parts of Virginia that are as religiously intolerant as the Taliban, only Christian rather than Muslim fundamentalist. You have no religious fundamentalists in Kiwiland? I thought that type of crazy was worldwide! |
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| Kahu | Apr 8 2014, 12:27 PM Post #28 |
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Yes, we do but they're not so obvious as in the US, and they don't have the same level of influence over the rest of us. That only changes when they start meddling in the political or educational system which affects the rest of us. With the introduction of the stupid Charter School system from the US there maybe changes in the offing. Our christian communities tend now to be Ohu (commune) type settlements. There is a special area in the north of the South Island where German-Scandinavian settler communities are strong with traditional a Lutheran following.
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| Deleted User | Apr 8 2014, 04:20 PM Post #29 |
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If only our Christian Taliban would form their own communes and stay in them! |
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| Trotsky | Apr 9 2014, 12:29 AM Post #30 |
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A sobering thought:
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