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| The Normal Heart; HB0 this Sunday | |
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| Topic Started: May 25 2014, 10:37 AM (305 Views) | |
| Olive Oil | May 25 2014, 10:37 AM Post #1 |
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On HB0 this Sunday, 9.00 ET, based on the play. A look at the first days of Aids. Sounds like a good cast. |
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| Trotsky | May 26 2014, 01:04 AM Post #2 |
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This is the first thing I am really sad about since cancelling HBO last month. When they offer a freebie weekend, THE NORMAL HEART will be the first thing I watch ON DEMAND...and then THRONES. I saw the original 30 years ago with the beautiful but dying Brad Davis (AIDS) in the lead and then I saw the revival with Raul Esparza in the lead about 10 years ago and the play still held it's power. It is one of the most powerful and politically significant plays written in my lifetime. Just double checked the freebie weekends. They ARE giving HBO and Cinemax free this weekend to DISH subscribers. Good for them. Edited by Trotsky, May 26 2014, 01:27 AM.
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| Bitsy | May 26 2014, 02:47 AM Post #3 |
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I am so looking forward to this showing, I am not even angry with HBO for the lapse of a week of GoT. I am a huge fan of Mark Ruffalo and pleased that he is getting some recognition and the roles that come from it. |
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| helen_t | May 26 2014, 04:50 PM Post #4 |
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I thought it was brilliant |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2014, 07:31 PM Post #5 |
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The performances were amazing. Never heard of some of these actors before. Joe Mantello (Mickey) was astounding. And the guy who played Bruce was the handsomest actor I've seen since Brad Pitt got old. |
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| Bitsy | May 27 2014, 01:18 AM Post #6 |
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An aside for me, Ronald Reagan. In view of his many other failures, sadly, I had forgotten his cowardly failure of leadership in the fight against Aids. The Normal Heart was a vivid reminder. |
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| helen_t | May 27 2014, 02:47 AM Post #7 |
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The count of how many have died and are still dying is appalling. |
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| Alli | May 27 2014, 10:06 PM Post #8 |
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It was a very emotional movie to watch it struck so many chords with me. Some because of the friends I knew who were diagnosed and have subsequently died....... Tommy Gamble the best looking guy from school i had ever met we became fast friends hung out talked on the phone for hours. , dances etc I had the biggest crush until one day he told me honestly we were only friends He had a boy friend I was devastated but no matter we stayed friends. In 2004 he died of AIDS.... My mother died of full blown AIDS.. infected in 1984 after receiving a blood transfusion during surgery It was part of the whole tainted blood scandal with the Red Cross. Watching my mother die was terrible. AIDS related dementia, Kaposi's sarcoma.. she had these awful sores on her body... Awful Awful Disease!! |
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| Trotsky | May 27 2014, 11:51 PM Post #9 |
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How terrible for you, Alli. I lost only one friend but many acquaintances, all of whom had participated in the government sponsored inoculation of gay men in a study of the Hepatitis B vaccine (1978-1979.) It was done at a single bar in New York, THE RAMROD, and later in Los Angeles and San Franciso. Needless to say Bob and I did NOT take the shot. (I remember telling my friend NOT to be "inoculated" because I did not trust the government enough to give it access to the bloodstreams of a despised class of people. He did it anyway and died a few years later after burying his partner who also got the shot. ) Edited by Trotsky, May 28 2014, 12:06 AM.
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| Deleted User | May 28 2014, 04:31 AM Post #10 |
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Trotsky, I never heard of that before, and it was not mentioned in the film to the best of my recollection. Is there something to read about that somewhere? We left for Nigeria in 1979 and came back in 1981. We lived in an area that was at least 40% gay and lesbian (rented out our house while away). We lost many friends and neighbors during the years after our return, including Robert, our neighbor who used to come over during the day to take care of Gabe for an hour during the first few months of Gabe's life when Gabe had really bad colic so I could get some relief from a screaming baby, walk around the block, run to the store, etc. and his partner Denis, who was a well know wedding gown designer. It was a very sad and frightening time. |
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| Trotsky | May 29 2014, 01:02 AM Post #11 |
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Here's a good read BJ. http://www.originofaids.com/articles/early.htm but the net is full of them, some logical some silly. But I can only report what I knew to be fact and however those responsible have bent these facts to escape responsibility probably makes Watergate, and Irangate, Global Warming Denial look like kids with their hands in the cookie jar. Edited by Trotsky, May 29 2014, 01:05 AM.
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| Deleted User | May 29 2014, 04:45 AM Post #12 |
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Thanx Trotsky...way too technical to read in detail, but I appreciate the effort. I was just surprised because though I had, of course, heard that AIDS was man made and directed at the gay community, I did not know that it had been traced back to a specific "event" such as the Hepatitis vaccinations. |
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| Trotsky | May 29 2014, 10:29 AM Post #13 |
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Think how few cases in history that there have been that a certain class of people had been incoculated as part of a government run experiment, except, of course, the medical experimentation of the Nazis. For the hepatitis test the rationale was given that the results might protect the medical profession. One might well ask why the medical profession was not chosen as the class to be experimented upon. The only question that nags me is was it a mistake or a mass murder. That I will never know. |
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| Olive Oil | May 30 2014, 04:25 AM Post #14 |
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There is still debate on whether smallpox infected blankets were ever given to Native Americans so we will probably never know the whole truth about the early days of HIV. At the very least, the government is guilty of neglecting a terrible plague until its effect was felt in the "straight population". The Normal Heart should be shown in classrooms. Wonderfully acted and heartbreaking. |
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