E. coli linked to raw pork products responsible for 100 Albertans getting ill

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E. coli linked to raw pork products responsible for 100 Albertans getting ill
Topic Started: Sep 7 2014, 12:09 AM (574 Views)
Darcie	Sep 7 2014, 12:09 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: Dr. James Talbot says it's the largest E. coli outbreak in Alberta in 15 years Quote: Alberta's chief medical officer of health says 100 people in the province have gotten ill from E. coli linked to raw pork products, including 19 people who have been hospitalized. Raw pork from 2 Alberta firms recalled over possible E.coli contamination 122 Albertans diagnosed with E. coli as AHS looks for cause IN DEPTH \| Understanding E. coli: symptoms, spread, prevention The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) has ordered a recall of pork products from V & T Meat and Food in Calgary and Hiep Thanh Trading in Edmonton over concerns they may contain E. coli 0157:H7. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/e-coli-linked-to-raw-pork-products-responsible-for-100-albertans-getting-ill-1.2757404?cmp=rss Every time I buy meat or fish or imported anything in the stores, in the back of my mind I always wonder what is between me and a a food poisoning because it has happened to me quite a few times. Is there a way we could be safer?



haili	Sep 7 2014, 01:12 AM Post #2
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,083 Group: Member Member #387 Joined: September 15, 2006	I thought that cooking meat thoroughly prevented food poisoning.



Darcie	Sep 7 2014, 01:15 AM Post #3
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Same here, but maybe the meat was not cooked properly. This can be anywhere, in water, on lettuce etc. Edited by Darcie, Sep 7 2014, 01:16 AM.



Kahu	Sep 7 2014, 01:25 AM Post #4
Posts: 31,109 Group: Administration Member #150 Joined: December 14, 2005	E Coli can be neutralised with proper cooking at a high enough internal temperature. Make sure the cooked meat is brown throughout (not pink), and the juices run clear. Preferably check that the internal temperature is higher than 65�C. Source Link



Darcie	Sep 7 2014, 01:29 AM Post #5
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Sometimes it is how the people handle the products. If you touch the raw meat and then handle other items or food you can transfer contamination. It is so important to wash your hands for a long enough period after touching meat and to never put cooked meat back on the plate where you had the uncooked product. I have seen this done and I refuse to eat at that particular place.



heatseeker	Sep 7 2014, 01:40 AM Post #6
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	There is a new divide developing between the affluent and everyone else. If you can afford it, you get naturally raised meat and eggs from animals that have been treated well and slaughtered and processed carefully. If not, you take your chances. My experience with home grown tomatoes this summer makes me eager to move somewhere with space for a large garden.



Delphi51	Sep 7 2014, 08:21 AM Post #7
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	I am amazed at how many people eat their meat rare. The fanciest meal we ever had, at a friend's anniversary supper at a hotel, was rare beef delivered by a troop of eight servers. We weren't even asked how we wanted it cooked. One guy at our table said it was "not quite dead". I think pork, fish and chicken are riskier than beef. A few months ago there was another scare like this and some politician suggested the stores should give the meat to homeless shelters, specifying it be well cooked. People were shocked that she would suggest anything short of destruction.



Kahu	Sep 7 2014, 12:28 PM Post #8
Posts: 31,109 Group: Administration Member #150 Joined: December 14, 2005	heatseeker Sep 7 2014, 01:40 AM There is a new divide developing between the affluent and everyone else. If you can afford it, you get naturally raised meat and eggs from animals that have been treated well and slaughtered and processed carefully. If not, you take your chances. My experience with home grown tomatoes this summer makes me eager to move somewhere with space for a large garden. You've got a point there ... although pork and poultry are always the most risky foods to prepare.



Kahu	Sep 7 2014, 12:31 PM Post #9
Posts: 31,109 Group: Administration Member #150 Joined: December 14, 2005	Delphi51 Sep 7 2014, 08:21 AM I think pork, fish and chicken are riskier than beef. I'd take fish off the list ... because there are many instances where fish can be eaten raw, simply rinsed in seawater.



Trotsky	Sep 22 2014, 01:44 AM Post #10
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Kahu Sep 7 2014, 12:31 PM Delphi51 Sep 7 2014, 08:21 AM I think pork, fish and chicken are riskier than beef. I'd take fish off the list ... because there are many instances where fish can be eaten raw, simply rinsed in seawater. But ONLY if they are inspected by an expert for parasites...think a Sushi Master Chef. Raw fish from a market MUST be cooked or it's a game of Russian Roulette. The problem is worm larvae of several types. Edited by Trotsky, Sep 22 2014, 01:44 AM.



campy	Sep 22 2014, 08:49 AM Post #11
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	How anyone can eat anything raw in this day and age is beyond me. Ever since fire was invented nothing was meant to be eaten raw.



wildie	Sep 22 2014, 01:03 PM Post #12
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	campy Sep 22 2014, 08:49 AM How anyone can eat anything raw in this day and age is beyond me. Ever since fire was invented nothing was meant to be eaten raw. Ever hear of steak tartare? Very popular in France! http://www.buzzfeed.com/christinebyrne/dont-make-steak-tartare-at-home#4hqxaaz Quote: In the hands of a chef, steak tartare can be a truly beautiful thing. The process seems fairly straightforward: Obtain high quality beef, cut carefully into small pieces, season heavily, dress with a sauce or vinaigrette with balances flavors of salty and sour, then plate with the appropriate accoutrements (usually some kind of crunchy bread or potato product). When done right, it is cold and salty and gamey and has that perfectly tender texture that even the rarest cooked meat can never achieve. As a child, we would eat raw steak hamburger! Never ground pork though! Quote: How anyone can eat anything raw in this day and age is beyond me People eat raw fish all the time! Its called Sushi! laugh123 Edited by wildie, Sep 22 2014, 01:08 PM.



campy	Sep 22 2014, 08:02 PM Post #13
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	Hmmn! Ever think of joining the circus and eating a raw chicken. Sorry but raw does not appeal to me.



angora	Sep 23 2014, 05:33 AM Post #14
WWS Book Club Coordinator Posts: 14,494 Group: Member Member #717 Joined: March 31, 2010	Me either. Ive tried it and didn't like it.



Dana	Sep 23 2014, 05:36 AM Post #15
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	Often sushi fish has been frozen in order to kill any parasites. I don't eat the raw myself but there are plenty of cooked options to choose from if you can get past the seaweed which some people just can't do. The tempura prawns and veggies often found in sushi restaurants are are terrific!



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